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Discovering Godzilla's Feminine Side

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Something Real

MemberGodzillaApr-28-2014 2:22 AM
Hello there. I've a question that's been on my mind for a little while now - stemming directly from the many "Godzilla's Gender" threads I've seen popping up across the boards. How can we be certain of Godzilla's biological gender? "He" very well could be a "she". However, it's extremely difficult to tell for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is the creature's overall heavily-scaled and menacing appearance. Not only that, but with the vast majority of large and commanding presences, we traditionally allocate the generic descriptor of "He" - it's a facet of human nature left over from the near stone-age and bronze-age eras in which women were viewed as not quite equal with men. I'm reminded of various, older Dinosaur films hosted by Gary Owens in which the majority of the creatures were described as "He", or a recent event in Madision, WI called "Dinosaurs Roaring In!" in which the predators are often billed as male, while the much larger saurupods are described as female (strangely enough). Look at the Tyranosaurus Rex from Jurassic Park. Though it was referred to by the descriptor of "He", that creature - and every other dinosaur for that matter - was female (at least to start). Is it that we view agression and certitude as masculine? Is the figurative "He" more worthy of being lauded as a dangerous being or commanding presence? With that on the table, I posit this question: what if Godzilla really did happen to be a female of the species? Would that deplete the respect and awe we feel for the creature? Would it in any way diminish the incredibly magnificent figure the creature cuts as it wades through cities and brings destruction down upon the heads of all challengers? Would we still look at Godzilla in the same light if the King of the Monsters was actually the Queen of the Monsters? Nature, of which Godzilla is supposed to be an avatar, is almost always referred to as "Mother Nature" - and we all know that the natural world is the most prolific killer of all. Remember: "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? That is a very powerful and telling phrase used by many an individual to describe the dire consequences that can arise from drawing forth a female entity's wrath. Yet, it seems that we (as a general whole) wish to describe most destructive creatures a male. As always, your thoughts and conjecture on this topic are most appreciated, even if you choose to keep them to yourself. :)
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MagggleShackle

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 3:32 AM

Welll, uh, ok you bring up a god point. Godzilla could be a female but I think when godzilla was labled as a male when toho made Son of Godzilla. Also godzilla is from japan and in japan female character's in some tv shows usally get the short end of the stick usally having no power or they die when they do. So I would so godzilla is labled as male just based of the heritage from which he's in real life rather then in universe explation.

The Weaver

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 3:35 AM

I actually have no problem with Godzilla being female as I'm kind of apathetic to what gender the King is, being female could very much attribute it more directly to nature itself, as we call her "Mother Earth" (Implying that perhaps Godzilla could be literal nature itself?). Though he is the world's protector (Excluding mankind) and in the animal kingdom it is usually males who display dominance and protective stances for his territory.

However those are creatures of today, who knows, perhaps the side was flipped during the prehistoric days and females were the dominant of the gender.

I would like to think that Godzilla can be whatever gender a viewer likes to interpret it, after all, he or she is only a metaphor for us, so if being female gives more impact I don’t see why that’s wrong to believe. I fully support the idea. :)

Though if the discussion is about whether or not Godzilla is actually female, we shouldn’t look too further, since the canon Japanese have always called him by he. And I respect the creators Word of God.

I personally would stick with a male side since I'm accustomed to seeing Godzilla as an almost literal King and toughest warrior around, but that's just how I view him. However him being female is actually the more interesting viewpoint.

PS: I’m a sucker for tough female characters.

Something Real

MemberGodzillaApr-28-2014 4:04 AM
MAGGLESHACKLE - I very much enjoy your response! Well-thought, my friend! :) THE WEAVER - Now THAT is an excellent series of points you've brought forward! Very thought provoking and excellently-presented. Thank you very much for your thoughts! :)

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 5:17 AM

I think Godzilla is male in my opinion. I think a female of the Godzilla species would be larger and more aggresive. Plus Godzilla is the "King of the Monsters." If Godzilla were female, then Godzilla would be "Queen of the Monsters." I am very open to the idea of a female Godzilla. But I think the conceptof it would be introduced in a situation where Godzilla discovers a female of his species while destroying tokyo and begins to issue mating calls. Resulting in Godzilla no longer being so lonely, and Minilla/Little Godzilla/Godzilla Jr. (what ever incarnation or name for his son) gaining younger siblings to look after. But that is my opinion.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Something Real

MemberGodzillaApr-28-2014 5:23 AM
KINGKAIJUGOJIRA - It's a fine opinion! That part about the mating calls made me laugh! Additionally, I'd love to see Godzilla Jr. get a little baby brother and sister! That's be adorable! :)

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 5:52 AM

I can see it now: The dynamic duo. Godzilla and Anguiurs prepare to battle an unknown enemy. The smoke clears and the enemyis revealed as a Female Godzilla. The two Godzillas stare at each other in one of those Love at first Sight moments. Godzilla tell Anguirus to go home. Anguiurs argues that Godzilla needs a wing man. Godzilla replies that he would have brought Rodan for that. Anguirus leaves, listening to Godzilla's pick up lines in the distance. I would go on, but then it would be a fan-fiction. I'm already typing one right now. Not sure if I will post it at all.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Madison

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 6:14 AM

If Godzilla turned out to be female, it wouldn't diminish my respect for it at all. If anything, it would make me pleased to know that there is a greater chance of Godzilla reproducing and creating a new generation of Godzillas! :-)

For the most part, I view Godzilla as asexual, even though the 'he/his' pronoun if oftentimes the default pronoun. Godzilla being asexual probably most accurate since very little of Godzilla's behavior is gender relevant. Regardless of what the gender of Godzilla's 'origin' creature was, that much nuclear radiation is enough to make anything sterile lol :-) (yes I know there is a difference between sterile and asexual, but still)

Well and yes, Godzilla doesn't look feminine. But that's a trait of the species I think, rather than a gender trait. Female crocodiles don't look 'feminine' either.

Science actually has Godzilla's back on this one: In MOST species, the female is larger and more powerful than the male. Especially amongst amphibians and reptiles. We tend not to realize this because it's not true for humans, or most mammals, so we have a bias perspective. But if look at all species, and not just the cute ones, females > males in nature physically.

It actually makes sense. The 'Alpha Male' stereotype only makes the most sense in social groupings, like herds in terms of natural selection. However, in more solitary or isolated creatures (like Godzilla) it's more important for the female to be physically fit, since she must guard eggs and/or offspring by herself a lot of the time, while the only thing the male has to do is wander and reproduce.

So yeah, a female Godzilla, in all probability, would overall be larger and more badass than a male one would if we're just playing a numbers game. 

Saitama

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 6:27 AM

i think that godzilla is male because his title is King of the monsters and I've alawys thought of him as a he.

I don't know what to put here 

Top Hat Gyaos

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 6:54 AM

SOMETHING REAL-

It is possible that being a female could make Godzilla much more destructive and aggressive. In some amphibian species and most large carnivorous dinosaurs, the female was significantly larger than the male, Tyrannosaur females being up to 15 feet longer than the unfortunate males, who might've ended up as their meal. So I wouldn't mind Godzilla being female, it just bothers me a bit for some reason.

Be yourself, for everyone else is taken.

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 6:59 AM

I agree with Derpy Battra. A female Godzilla would be more destructive and aggressive than a male would. And that's how I like my women ;)

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

jmtrude

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 7:13 AM

@SOMETHING REAL - I only went with the male for this godzilla becuase the toys that are describing it as "he" could be the last of his race. Certainly wouldn't matter to me what the gender is. When rebalancing nature, gender shouldn't be the issue. I do believe I heard Gareth mention that Godzilla's race will be covered in the movie so maybe we'll get an idea of what "momma G" was like. 

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 7:22 AM

Now there's an interesting thought JMTRUDE. What were Godzilla's parents like? I always assumed his father was the 1954 Godzilla.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-28-2014 7:54 AM

The godzilla babies introduced brings up a good topic. We never see any of the families of these Godzillas. All the babies so far in the series have been adopted by the main godzilla of said timeline. The fact most males would never take care of a child, much less than 1 that wasn't theirs(most choose to kill those offspring that they don't father) points to a nurturing side of godzilla. I still believe he's male, or at least intended to be so but there are plenty of little nuances that point more towards female, however his apparent territory that he defends, being japan usually from other monsters is also a characteristic more male like. 

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 8:17 AM

I agree with DURPOO4. I believe Godzilla is male, but he has some characteristics that are female. I believe Godzilla adopts the babies because he is lonely. Godzilla may be more human-like than many realize. Especially if he is willing to take care of an infant that may not be geneticaly his.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Kage432

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 8:28 AM

Does anyone remeber that demonic kaiju sized bat-dragon that fought burning Godzilla to the peak of his power and won the majority of said battles? Yeah, Destroyah, that thing was female, but where I come from, that didn't make us respect the weaponized oxygen destroyer any less so I imagine the same would apply for Godzilla.

However, you raise an interesting question SOMETHING REAL, but are you really okay with that? Could you imagine if, lets say, Darth Vader was female? You would never see her face and the armor would look exactly the same. What a funny prospect. But in Godzilla's case, well, wouldn't it be amazing if the beast could swap genders in order to perform certain functions. Or maybe in the presense of the female Muto, Godzilla might respond to her by going all female-ape shit and gaining a staggering boost in her aggressive behavior and pain tollerance. Her atomic breath might even function differently. And when the battle is all said and done, she'll lay eggs inside the Muto's heads so that when her babies hatch, they can feed off of all the delicious radioactive fleshy goodness inside the Muto. Then she'll return to the ocean while some unfitting motivational music starts playing in the background - credits rolling as if we didn't all just witness some heavy AVP level of amazing lol. Just my opinion though.

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Kyorah16

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 8:32 AM

Honestly, I cannot think of Godzilla as anything other than a male... I mean, he is the KING of the Monsters, after all. And not only that, but every single piece of media he has appeared in has labelled him as a male. If a monster is female, then they tend to be explicitly addressed as such. eg; Mothra

Evan123

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 8:58 AM

I would love if godzilla was a female! I think that if it was a she, It would, for me make it seem even more powerful and dangerous! These are just my thoughts though and some people don't like that idea so.....ya, I'll just leave it at that 😊

How far can we push nature before it pushes back?

Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-28-2014 9:16 AM

I know this is off topic but when was it ever stated destroyah was female? To my knowledge the movie never implied a gender for it in any way.

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 9:20 AM

Yeah, they never gave it a gender. Destoroyah mutated from a precambrian bacteria. A mircorganism. If anything, Destoroyah is asexual. That would explain the numerous Destoroyah throughout the movie.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

gojifan02

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 9:20 AM

yea I don't remember Destroyah being a female (not trying to be mean). but if IT is, That's awesome. I luv female Kaijus because they are so powerfull

RESPECT THE GOLDEN MIRUmiru

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 9:22 AM

Even if Destoroyah was female, Mothra would still be the most beautiful and sexy kaiju.

Is that creepy? It sounds creepy.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

TH3RATTL3SNAK3

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 9:24 AM

WHAT?

skreeonk

Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-28-2014 9:25 AM

@Kingkaijugojira

Biollante begs to differ on that last statement.

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 9:30 AM

DURPOO4, In her rose form maybe. But her final form...well. The first time I saw Biollante (which was in Godzilla Unleashed) I thought she was a guy.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-28-2014 9:33 AM

I'm not sure how. Nothing screams feminine quite like a giant plant crocodile that sprays acid. 

Kage432

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 9:34 AM

I don't remeber when it started but speculation on her gender began when some fans got to talking about her roar and her triangular torso, according to the wiki, is something that female crabs have. And they ALL refered to Destroyah as female. I don't know, maybe everyone was wrong?

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Durp004

MemberBaragonApr-28-2014 9:46 AM

I just realized Biollante is the closest thing we have to an established female godzilla. Granted there is some plant thrown in, but it is female and was made by the G-cells so it's, as I believe Dr. Shiragami puts it, "the same creature" as godzilla. This would also go with the fact Biollante is both larger and extremely aggressive, actually going out of it's way to attack things( the thieves in the lab, and Godzilla) whereas for the most part Godzilla isn't quite that antagonistic.

KingKaijuGojira

MemberTitanosaurusApr-28-2014 10:05 AM

DURPOO4, It was the crocodile head that threw me off. Also your right. Biollante is the closest thing to a female Godzilla.

\"SKREEONGK!\" -Godzilla

GFAN4-20YRS

MemberMothra LarvaeApr-28-2014 12:35 PM

Well milady, a female Godzila has the unpopluar vote for most but would be an intresting change, As long as the Goji is till badass. In fact I have my own theroy/fiction that there were originally 2 Gojrias and a egg that were in slumber togethher but were seperated by the techtonic shifting, and the first one awakend in 54 was the female, scarred and seaching for her family.Cause when you watch the creature in "Gojira", it does seem to be aggerssivly searching for something. But saddly is by the Queen is vanqished by the oxygen destroyer and the Godzilla that is in the rest of the Showa series is either the male or grown up Minya

Something Real

MemberGodzillaApr-28-2014 2:02 PM
KAGE432 - Hahaha! You make a fine point! I couldn't see Darth Vader as a woman - something about the very thought gives me the creeps! Additionally, I did rememebr hearing something about Destroyah being female! Ugly, though she waa, she was still awesome! EVAN123 - Indeed! A female of the Godzilla species would likely be extremely potent in force! MADISON - You raised some very interesting points with your post! indeed, I'd have no problem with Godzilla being a female as well! Let's have an Alpha Female! DURP004 - You're right! I'd forgotten all about Biollante being conceived from Godzilla's DNA! Excellent point! GFAN4-20YRS - That's a compelling hypothesis you've presented! It would definately bring a more heart-wrenching aspect to the film were that particular Godzilla the female in search of her family! :)
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