
Akagi
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 11:27 AMHes some form of precambrian lifeform. As we know little to nothing about this era, besides it was harsh and earth was nearly uninhabitable.
The first attempt at an American Godzilla film, GODZILLA 3D played on the idea that Godzilla was from a stage of evolution that predated even the dinosaurs. That it was a type of proto-saur, a giant creature that could survive nuclear radiation and even expell atomic flame. Not too much different from showa Gamera's origins.
I think that as an explenation for how creatures like Godzilla and Muto could exist-- will be that they predate even the dinosaurs and therapsids. Hell, Godzilla might even be a therapsid, explaining why he has such mammalian features.
So I'm assuming Godzilla is not only able to survive nuclear radiation, but possibly feed off of it. Perhaps his species went into hibernation at the end of the precambrian era, as the Earth's enviroment became more suitable for other forms of life and didn't wake up again until we started playing with atomic power.
Just food for thought-- I have a sinking suspicion Godzilla's entire origin will not be revealed in just one film and I'd kind of like it that way.

NuclearZilla
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 11:36 AMIn Godzilla 2000 and a few others I'm sure of he fed off energy.
This theory has been around quite some time, and from what the trailer shows he can survive the intial blasts. Which means well we're screwed and Godzilla is unstoppable. On another note, Godzilla inspired Gamera. Godzilla isn't a dinosaur and none of his orgins ties to that theory. If you're talking about the 1998 Godzilla, well this movie has absolutely nothing to do with that film.
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Lewshizz
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 11:40 AMGodzilla vs. King Ghidorah 90's was godzilla's backstory (if you choose to believe it)
he was a Godzillasaur hit by nucLear testing Akagi your thoughts are Very believable

kaijugroupie84
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 12:43 PMVery believable, probably the best explanation I've heard thus far.

Madison
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:01 PMEh, I really don't like any those dinosaur/really ancient animal explanations for what Godzilla is. I'd much prefer Godzilla to be a mutation of something more modern.
I detailed reasoning for it in a separate discussion, but in summary, it creates a second, UN-NECESSARY layer of disbelief to overcome.
Like, the fact that nuclear bombs mutated/awoke a creature and it becomes Godzilla (no matter what animal you pick from) is one layer of disbelief you have to set aside.
Picking any kind of extraordinarily ancient animal adds that second layer, because now you need an explanation for both how the nuclear weapons activated the monster, but you ALSO need a separate explanation for how the monster survived for MILLIONS OF YEARS, was exempt from the fossil record, can suddenly breath our atmosphere, adjust to our climate (especially for a reptile climate is important) and so on and so forth.
It just increases the level of ridiculous absurdity that a viewer has to swallow when Godzilla has be millions of years old. There's no reason for it. It is JUST as likely that a nuke would mutate a crocodile into Godzilla as a nuke would mutate an ancient sleeping dinosaur or whatever into Godzilla. So provided the animal into Godzilla mutation via nuke is equally likely no matter what animal you pick.....why pick an animal whose very existence is also ridiculously implausible?
As mentioned in other threads by other people, I almost kind of prefer when Godzilla's origins are made to be more mysterious and not completely explained. I think it adds to the awe of the creature. But provided they do explain it, I really hope it isn't millions of years old.

ErwinGFan91
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:01 PMI love the godzilla movies, huge fan. However what I dont get in the godzilla franchise is how it's possible for an prehistoric creature to live that long. Doesn't godzilla die of old age? Howcome godzilla is not discovered earlier in human history? Maybe I am thinking too much in it. I am looking forward to the new movie.

NuclearZilla
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:05 PM@ERWINGFAN91
"Godzilla's exact origins vary, but it is generally depicted as an enormous, violent, prehistoric sea monster awakened and empowered by nuclear radiation."
It's a fictional franchise about a giant kaiju fighting monsters, destroying cities, ect. Toho didn't worry too much about keeping it real.
Now here is my rational explaination; At this very moment in time we know close to nothing about our oceans and what lies on the bottom, (for all we really know something could really be down there, lol). The nuclear blasts from World War II awaken the sleeping beast from deep in the ocean with the impact of the bombs, and here we are.
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Linkman89
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:07 PMOne theory people aren't really talking about is the idea put forth in (and i know it's more of a family movie) The Water Horse. In that tale there was only ever one water horse (Nessie) and right before it died it laid an egg that would produce the next animal. I kinda feel like that could apply to Godzilla

GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:21 PMno offense, but saying godzilla is precambrian, is really, really silly, heres the knid of animals from that era
king of the monsters

Madison
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:23 PMAnother cool thing about keeping Godzilla's origin's more mysterious, is that it would actually be more realistic that way.
Like, so let's say we nuke some crap, and Godzilla comes rising out of the ocean. We would have NO IDEA where it came from. Nobody would be like: Yep, that's used to be a crocodile...or yep, that used to be a T-Rex.
In order for us to know what Godzilla was, before it was Godzilla, we would have KNOW about the creature's existence BEFORE it became Godzilla.
But if we weren't aware of the creature's existence BEFORE it came Godzilla....how on earth would any scientist able to RETROACTIVELY identify what it came from?
If it came from a creature we didn't know existed....we still don't know it existed just because Godzilla's stomping around.
So yeah, the more REALISTIC take on Godzilla, is honestly to not know what it is. Which helps both realism, and story-telling mystery as a viewer.

GODZILLA HIMSELF
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:23 PM@erwingfan
what if they use godzilla to explain ancient myths and stuff like sea serpents, :D
king of the monsters

NuclearZilla
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:29 PMThat would be pretty cool actually xD
They already used him to explain the nuclear tests in the pacific
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ErwinGFan91
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 1:35 PMWell, they might consider just keeping his origins a bit of a secret. Which is cool by me. Just like Jordan Swickard said: it's just a movie, not concerned with too many facts. That's the reason we see movies too escape reality.

Huge-Ben
MemberBaragonFeb-27-2014 3:39 PMyou know they might protray him like what akagi said an ancient dinosaur that lived during the precambrian era. which also if you believe in god and you read the bible it does say in one of the books i forget which book, verse, and chapter it is from but it does talk about the leviathan, not saying that is what godzilla will be refered too but it does make me wonder.
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TheGMan123
MemberTitanosaurusFeb-27-2014 3:59 PMI'll try to put my two cents in as to how this all COULD work (please bear in mind I'm no chemist or biologist or physicist):
Godzilla's mutated body is the result of several centuries or even millenia of mutation post-death of the original creature from naturally occurring radiation, each increasing the creature's lifespan, durability, size, and array of exotic abilities, all incrementally and at the absolute genetic level, thus allowing him to shrug off the likes of nukes, remain physically stable even at his great sizes, and produce such powerful exotic abilities.
Additionally, this makes him functionally immortal, being almost completely self-sustaining due to nuclear organ systems save for an occasional top-off after periods of hibernation. His newly mutated telomeres never shorten, thus meaning his body won't break down like a normal organic being.
Add to all this that this nulcear cell biology can repair impossibly huge amounts of damage, on top of his bodyily composition being extremely dense and strong bellying that of any naturally evolved organic being to withstand his great sizes and proportions, and you have the makings of a "living god".

kaijugroupie84
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-27-2014 6:52 PMHow about this, it's movie, no matter how realistic they want it to be, a giant fire-breathing proto-saur will never be deemed realistic. However, a few of you raise a good point, as humans we are limited as to what we know about our planet, we are still learning about the ancient earth and god only knows what else we haven't discovered on this planet buried under our very feet or in our oceans. True scientists never rule anything out as impossible.

Danzilla93
MemberBaragonFeb-27-2014 8:12 PMGodzilla Himself:
Thank you! I'm not here to blast anyone's opinions or get into an argument, but... the precambrian era was completely void of oxygen. It didn't exist yet on Earth. The environment was completely anaerobic, meaning only small (for the most part, microscopic) lifeforms had developed. Even in the realm of giant monsters and mutations, a multicellular organism on the scale of Godzilla could never exist in that era. Later on? Perhaps. But not in a world without oxygen.
"Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science Fiction is the improbable made possible." -Rod Serling

gtbetta35
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-28-2014 11:29 AM"In 1954 we awakened something".....Meaning it was sleeping...Probably for millions of years.

Pulsarium
MemberMothra LarvaeFeb-28-2014 3:22 PMDanzilla93:
You're right. I personally shook my head with a deadpan expression on my face when I read the first sentence of the OP. Godzilla from the Precambrian? No. If anything, the only lifeforms that existed during the Precambrian Era were extremely simple bacteria and unicellular organisms. If I remember correctly, the original film said he was an "amphibious" dinosaur from the late Cretaceous Era (subtitles read "Jurassic", but they referred to a mass-extinction event which ended the "Jurassic"). I'm pretty sure we all know what did come from the Cambrian Era, though. A small, hard-shelled proto-arthropod which evolved and thrived in an anaerobic environment? I wonder what that might be...

NATHAN
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-02-2014 12:12 AMi just can't wait till the movie comes out
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Akagi
MemberMothra LarvaeMar-02-2014 1:15 AMWell if the monster has a nuclear reactor in him that keeps him alive, he could, in theory, live forever. We have no idea what the half-life is of Godzilla's nuclear makeup, it could be millions, even billions of years old.
There are many creatures that are genetically immortal, lobsters for instance.
But-- to say Godzilla being precambrian is silly is pretty brash-- the entire concept of Godzilla is silly. I bring up precambrian because we know almost nothing about it and what little fossil evidence we have from such an era is shrouded vagueness and mystery. We know more about the Moon than we know about the precambrian era. It really is one of the great mysteries of our planet's developement.
Adding to that, if the Godzilla species existed millions of years before even dinosaurs-- well that'd explain where almost no fossil evidence exists. Precambrian era was harsh, very harsh. Almost nothing survived in the way of fossils.
As for Godzilla being a mutation of a modern animal-- well the trailer pretty much confirms that isn't the case. I'm fairly certain godzilla isn't a dinosaur or any kind of known animal in this new film.
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