why is zilla 1998 so bad?

"Thats alot of fish!"

"i am getting kinda sick of people talking about ZILLA 98 so badly"

Well get used to it because fans and the public in general have been laying shit on that film ever since it came out. If anything I am surprised there are so called G-fans who actually defend that piece of shit. Fine if you liked it, but that doesn't change the universal opinion amongst G-fans that the film is and always will be absolute garbage.

so are you i am not a gfan cause you do not want to down that road b!tch

So we're all just gonne ignore the fact that Toho made it very clear that Zilla is it's own monster for the sake of having something to complain about?  Cool.  

That being said, I liked Zilla's design.

What i like about it. They called it gojira and then the stupid reporter named it godzilla.

Disgrace

I thought the storyline was good. They shouldn't have called it Godzilla though- because THAT was not Godzilla for all the reasons above. 

It's a piece of shit because Godzilla gets killed by the military. The military can't do shit to Godzilla.

To me, this movie is about a monster being mistaken for Godzilla and the Xiliens took the baby zilla from the ending and other monsters in Godzilla Final Wars.

This is the story I'm stickin' to and you cannot change my mind!!

I like him as Zilla, BUT I HATE HIM AS GODZILLA 1998!!!!!!!!

GODZILLA 1998 MOVIE SHOULD BE RENAMED ZILLA 1998 SO PEOPLE WILL STOP BABBLING ABOUT THE ZILLA NAME CHANGE BEING A MYTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck The tristar film, we shouldn't even talk about that piece of shit! film it's a disgrace to the King Of Monsters....what a joke!

The movie in my opinion wasn't bad it's just that it was called Godzilla for key value....I mean it's not a Hollywood masterpiece but it has its own appeal....I like the monster itself especially in the cartoon because it has its own nature and it's not like Godzilla but I originally hated this movie ....I gave it a chance again and enjoyed it for what it was.

I think the origin of zilla wasnt that realistic. I enjoyed the movie though, and just watching him destroy stuff. I think the problem in the movie was that there wasnt a real conflict. The army was just trying to kill a giant monster. I think this move couldve worked if it was called something else, because it wasnt godzilla.

please don't kill me for this, i liked the 1998 movie, sure it wasn't godzilla but i enjoyed it because it's a monster flick

Except it's not just a bad Godzilla movie, it's a bad movie, period. Even if it wasn't called Godzilla, it would still be marred by all of the following:

1. Laughable characters (and yes, they DO matter, no pun intended).

2. Atrocious dialog. i.e: "That's a lot of fish," "we need bigger guns", "all stations report the stations are station-manned for battle, sir".

3. Terrible acting, seriously, it's some of the worst I've ever seen in any film.

4. Massive plot holes (it can burrow through buildings without getting trapped, but not the Brooklyn Bridge? And it can outrun freaking choppers, but not a damn taxi cab? And fit in a freaking tunnel? And "magically disappear" in a city of 8 million people? Just to name a few).

5. Retarded ending (it gets killed by a few missiles?)

6. Incompetently retarded military (if you though the Transformer movies made the military look like complete morons, you should see the armed forces in this movie!)

7. Stupid romantic sub plot, and even worse, monster (or rather, military cause they're the ones causing most of the damage) destruction being pushed aside for it...umm, are they completely oblivious to the fact that there was just a giant monster roaming around?!

8. Boring action scenes, yes, the action scenes in this movie were boring, I don't care what anybody says, it was just him running like a bitch from the military while these morons keep missing him, despite him being 200 feet tall. Now how the f__k is that possible?

And yes, King of Zombies, we know Emmerich's films are all obnoxious "ka-booms" with retarded characters and obnoxious acting, that's why all of his movies suck, he's like Michael Bay: all he knows how to do is blow shit up, he doesn't know jack about what actually makes a good film. 

I don't really hate Zilla i mean the design is good(although he's an iguana) and the fact that it might have scene rip offs from Jurrasic Park doesen't bother me BUT i think the acting is quite bad and it has some things that don't fit in the plot but HOWEVER i think that zilla deserves respect. And Godzilla 1998 wasn't really a bad movie if you count out the bad things

I love all these people saying "You people are biased because you're G-fans, now, I've loved this movie since I was four..." Apparently, they don't realize that having loved a movie as a little kid makes them biased. Look, I first saw this movie as a toddler, it was what introduced me to Godzilla and monster movies in general, and I did indeed love it as a kid, but I hate it today, and I recognize that it is crappy even if you ignore that it's called Godzilla.

Also, to the people saying "half the Japanese Godzillas are worse, or at least as bad" that may be true (which is debatable; the bad Godzilla films may have had phoned in acting, but at least it was almost never annoying acting), but at least the campy Godzilla films had fun monster fights, heart, and, most importantly, were not a huge middle finger to millions of fans and the film makers who poured their hearts and souls into making the classic films.

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godzillas not in it the thing has no fire or automic breath its a coward and gets killed by the army its dumb looking not to be rude its small and week and i hate it not to be rude but im sick of it being talked about it does not exist to me

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GMAN2887 is completely right--his is a shorter version of what I'm going to say.

First off, I don't think anything personally for what movies they like, so if anyone gets defensive here, lighten up please.  I don't hate you nor am I attacking you...  but maybe making fun of you...

But the movie? Oh dear.  If I were a devout Hare Krishna, I'd still be hatin' with all my heart.  Some of you say it had a good story...I struggle to know how. One of only three films I've ever seen that inspired such a feeling (that would be hatred) in me before the time it was over (this, Demi Moore's utterly hate-inspiring Scarlet Letter, and the inexplicably awful Absolute Power).  I remember during the final scene, muttering audibly in the theater, "and they ripped off King Kong...the 1976 King Kong!!" Yeah, THAT BAD.

This movie is one of those rarities that checks so many blocks on the crappiness list, that I've truly lost count (Non-Ed Wood Category, of course) but here are just some: waste of good actors: √; complete aimlessness: √; egregiously disloyal to its lineage: √√; shamelessly glomming onto some other popular movie of that time: √√√√!!; stereotypically portraying the best military in the world as hopelessly incompetent: √; and perhaps worst of all--annoyingly implausible within a genre that is itself built upon implausibility: √√√√√√√!! (You have to really, really try to check that one--you are a genius Roland!!)  I mean, do you think the reason the Japanese renamed this thing AND gave us Daisake Matsuzaka was only because of the box office haul?  No...They were also secretly invoking the real Godzilla to make a homicidal beeline for Tri-Star studios in early 1999, believe me.  

If one thinks for a minute, the most memorable thing about this film was its curiously and oppositely-brilliant pre-release marketing.  Who could forget the giant foot crushing the T-Rex fossil or the provocative "Size Matters" poster? Awesome! And clever! Oh my God, they're gonna make a freaking awesome, CGI, kickass Godzilla movie!  What could be better?

Nine months later, the greatest contribution of this film was that it came out before Armageddon and made it not look as bad.  Where to start? We had Roland Emmerich, trying to make dark comedy jabs at Roger Ebert, endless CGI in darkness/rain (not a good sign), Harry Shearer mailing it in so much he probably wished he could be credited as Derek Smalls playing the part of Charles Caiman, and thankfully inspiration for one of the most sublimely funny Robot Chicken shorts ever.  I’m sure to this day, when anyone brings up the year 1998 to Shearer, he immediately blurts, “So, wasn’t Truman Show pretty cool?”  Never happened…

In fairness, the first 20 minutes or so—before we had to see the fish-eating, afraid of everything, taxi-skating, egg-laying, bullet-dodging, asexual “monster” weren’t bad.  Had the movie not then transitioned to blah, then bad, then silly, then absurd, then annoying, then anger-inspiring (yes, in exactly that order), I’d have still given it a tepid “thumbs up.”  Nope, gotta hand it to Emmerich—he didn’t just boil the frog on us with this one; he got you actively, willfully invoking thoughts about never paying full price to see a sci-fi remake ever again.  Yes…

When I left the theater at the end of Emmerich’s Folly with my ex-wife, I remember bitterly exclaiming "Great! That ruins the next 20 freaking years--Now no one will want to touch it.”  Thank you Gareth Edwards for getting us there four years early. You weren't perfect, but you pretty well erased Mayor Ebert, Raptors—er, I mean Baby ‘Zillas, and the Madison Square Garden Easter Egg Hunt from our movie muscle-memory. (My Ex-wife BTW, was an unabashed lover of Sci-Fi and probably about as non-critical as our lovely member, Something Real. She had already seen it (I’d been stationed in the Balkans), and when I asked her how it was, she paused and said, “Um, I dunno, not so great.”  That’s synonymous with “1.5 out of 10” from her.  Unfortunately, I didn’t listen).

I would never hate you Dude, and I salute your individuality, honesty, and well, bravery.  But in my mind, yes, it absolutely, positively WAS THAT BAD.... If you’d asked me one year ago, what were the five movies I hated most ever, this one was #2…and still is (You’re still my #1, Demi <3) and if we ever have a big ole Godzilla party, I’m cracking jokes about you all night long…

I loved the 1998 movie even though it did not get Godzilla right, I was entertained by it and it was fun, I have the dvd and pop it in every once in a while. People have made fun of the humor in it, please people have you watched Godzilla movies?  They are loaded with humor and bad acting.  Only the 1954 Gorjia and the 56 American Godzilla King of the monsters were the only serious takes on the story.  Yes it did not have the Gozilla look but Toho did aprove of the design! It did have the classic roar. But what can you do, thy tried.  But I have to say Edwards has done justice to Godzilla and I hope he makes more, bravo!  God zill 2014 is great!!  I have to say that if Godzilla 1998 was called "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms" instead people would have loved it more.  After all if you watch the original "Beast" and Godzilla 98 the basic story line is the same, Monster is born out of Atomic blast, travels thousands of miles to New York, takes a walk thru the city while the army trys to stop it, Final battle in the end and monster dies.  By the way, remember that that movie made $379,000,000 dollars  world wide in 1998, in 2014 money thats $551,000,000 which would have made it the biggest hit in the world by todays stardards and that doed not count what it has made in DVD sales and TV and cable showings. So no matter all the bad things the fans have said, money wise that movie was a big hit.

People dont like him because his movie was named "Godzilla". Many people, including myself, thought that was horrible because he obviously isn't Godzilla...he is a completely different kaiju. Americans were trying to catch the feel of a Godzilla movie but failed miserably. But Zilla is a really cool kaiju. Btw Toho did us a huge favor by letting us see the real Godzilla kick his ass in Final Wars. 

Let's see... it spat in the face of a beloved franchise. By not respecting the source material like having what's suppose to be "Godzilla"  doing things that Godzilla would never do such as running from the military, laying eggs, eating fish, climbing on buildings, and getting killed by the miltary. The design of the creature is also very unappealing in my opinion, I mean it like a T-Rex with a longated head, face, and arms and of course the addtional spines, not to mentional the creature is small. All of the characters were not interesting and 1 dimensonal. The story was generic and the plot was awful, the worst one was during the Zilla babies sequence where the creators really got lazy and decided to cheat by ripping off Jurassic Park. How ever I will give the credit with the visuals and CGI, which looked very believable , which i quite impressive and even more so considering that this was when CGI was still an infant, but that's pretty much it. For me this movie would have still been crappy even if it wasn't a Godzilla movie. So yeah that was my thoughts on this movie.

Oh dear, I am very sorry about my misspelling and grammar. I just have a really bad habit of typing way to fast. Lol

I can see how this might be a good movie if you have never seen any other Godzilla movie but if you are Godzilla this movie was awful!

Zilla is a Godzilla ripoff.  He has no atomic breath and dies like a bitch.  The characters are just bland, depressing stereotypes.  The military destroys more of NYC than the monster does.  That's not even the end of it.  It's a ripoff of Jurassic Park.  So my least favorite movie ends up being a copycat of my favorite.  BULLSHIT!

Just gonna leave this here...