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Where do you keep getting "trailer" from?
Yet again, not starting these arguments, but you do realize that the movie just started filming 7 days ago. So if they have the trailer, and on that day, then yeah that holds some wait.
"If TheTruthIsOutThere gets this date right and they do have a Godzilla King Of The Monsters trailer that day, then everything said will hold a ton more weight to it."
Because he guessed that a genre movie that's currently filming will have some kind of presence at the largest gathering for genre movies on the planet? That's literally the safest bet in the world. I think he's full of it.
Yeah, like bats
^Like bats?
Let's just have some fun with speculating shall we?
Just don't worry about it, keep the speculation going.
I get what you're saying now, so that would mean Final Wars Godzilla is apart of the showa origin.
G14 himself,
The M organization's purpose was to get rid of Godzilla. The one appeared in 1954 Which still threatens man's very existence. According to the film that is. The film takes place in the somewhat distant future if I recall correctly. So, according to the film, Godzilla survived the oxygen destroyer. I don't know how else to explain it.
As I've said plenty of times, I decided to let you all in on the fact practical effects were being used a month in advance? Honestly maybe I should have dropped that bomb the day before
Huge Ben-How? Regardless of whether he was an ancient creature or mutated he still threatens mankind.
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I think the fact that they say, "Which still threatens man's very existence" is a dead give away.
Oh god.... just don't ask that question, we aren't doing this thing for the 5th time.
I don't think that what you stated is true. Filming's barely begun, and where's your evidence to support your claims?
Huge Ben- For Godzilla x Megaguirus look what I said above, as for 2000 that quote means that he was mutated/made by the bomb. Final wars though just says thats when he first appeared, which could literally mean any of the origins.
Gman- Actually thanks for saying that because I forgot, in fact now that you say that, the Godzilla x Megaguirus Godzilla was apart of the Showa origin. The beginning of the movie shows him destroying Japan in basically remakes of scenes from Gojira. The only difference being that he didn't die from the oxygen destroyer.
Crimson Black- I've thought that for a while now, if he is I doubt he'd let us know
G14 himself,
"We scientists produced this monster. Godzilla. And ever since then, we've tried to destroy him." -Godzilla 2000 quote. So, did scientists make this Godzilla in 54?
In Megaguirus, Godzilla existed in 54 with stock footage using the 2000 design and again, later attacked in 1966. They even said Godzilla was the same from 54 and mankind was powerless to stop him.
Gmk, we know it's not the 54 revived. "The first Godzilla attack was repulse. (ie 54) the animal was killed by using an unknown chemical compound. (oxygen destroyer) the inventor has since died and his records have disappeared. Existing weapons were totally useless back then." this quote comes after Tachibana's question. "So minister, in the 50's did we really get rid of Godzilla? At the time I doubted it, but I taught my men to be proud of what they did. I wonder was it worth it?"
Final wars opening quote, "The king of monsters, that appeared in 1954 which still threatens man's very existence. It's name is..."
I'm not bringing all of this up to be a negative nancy or anything. Just pointing out what's said in the films.
Gman- Oh I know, I'm just saying that when I first read what he said I though he meant for all Godzilla's, which wouldn't make sense as we know Godzilla shoots a beam of pure radiation. (a.k.a not plasma)
Something tells me you're an inside man for the film giving us very slight clues on what the movie is about...
Even still there's no real confirmation it's actually plasma. I'm sure if we/he wanted to look that far in to it we could deduce other forms of the atomic ray as something "else" as well, but in the end it would just be unconfirmed speculation. I have a feeling the upcoming film will contradict the whole "plasma" thing since, y'know, it's not.
G14Himself,
I'm not sure if it's the way you worded it, but just to clarify,
the Godzilla in Godzilla x Megaguirus was not the same one from Godzilla 2000. Totally different continuity.
Gman- Certainly no worries, we discussed that on another thread and I realized what he meant. He was talking specifically about G 14, not every other Godzilla.
"According to Awakening, Godzilla was first awoken in 1946 after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, after which MONARCH was funded to track him so that the U.S. government could attempt to kill him."
Which of course contradicts what Serizawa had said in the movie.
So echolocation maybe?
Im Durp- They largely don't but refer to my comment above to see what I mean.
Huge Ben, EmptyH, TheGman-Thanks for giving more information for clarification.
Gman-Sadly we are really one of the few, almost everybody thinks it's the heisei origin the whole series through.
KingKaijuGojira-Heavily agreed, one of the reasons I loved the original so much is that he was unique. He wasn't a random mutated creature, but a unique ancient one awoken by the bomb.
"I have a bigger issue, who the f**k calls Godzilla's atomic breath plasma breath?!?"
It's what happens when people look too far in to things. It's atomic breath, no worries.
Huge Ben- Gladly, basically most of the millenium Godzilla films don't discuss his origin, but some of them hint at it. Godzilla 2000 gives literally no explanation of origin so for all we know he could be either. Godzilla vs Megaguirus is the same Godzilla so same thing. GMK has hints throughout the movie that he's semi heisei origin, as they say that he gained power through the nuclear bomb, although it doesn't actually say he was created by it. Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla/Godzilla Tokyo SOS believe in Gojira's origin and Final Wars is yet again a case of we don't know.
Just imagine what the Mothra larva will look like, c r a z y
Dr. Yamane also says he was from 2 million years ago from when dinosaurs existed, so some of their data may be slightly inaccurate.
Godzilla's atomic breath in Ghidorah the three headed monster was disappointing; it was more like dirty air kicked up by a leaf blower breath.
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So Rodan isn't going to have bat wings?
I can confirm that the cave painting designs were only meant to be recognizable, the official designs had not been finalized at that point
According to Awakening, Godzilla was first awoken in 1946 after the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, after which MONARCH was funded to track him so that the U.S. government could attempt to kill him.
I think the three will get along just fine
I'll concede this much--It seems that rumors revolving around Mothra sneezing on Vera Farmiga and Millie Bobby Brown have some weight to it:
Vera Farmiga's Twitter
I'd like to add some information from a few films that's often overlooked.
54- Dr. Yamane explains that Godzilla existed during the Jurassic period and also when the "ever-evolving animals" existed. The mind which can be both land and sea animal. Although, Dr. Yamane explains all of this and the info you shared Godzilla 2014 himself, the fact is, the old man of Odo island already knew Godzilla existed. That old man has to be anywhere from the ages of 50-70. If he already knows what Godzilla is, this means he was already seen before the nuclear bomb took place in 54. Although they don't really explain that much but, the old man tells of the legend in which, the legend was true.
G14- "Was awoken by nuclear tests." Not really. Dr. Serizawa explained that a Russian nuclear submarine awoke him in 1954 and that all the bomb tests in the 50's were used to kill him. Which it failed.
Mixed movies show one's the Showa origin while others the heisei? I'm actually lost on this one. Would you be kind enough to fill me in on this?
I agree with G.H.(Gman). Thank you Godzilla 2014 Himself for the reminder of the original origin of the King. I feel that many people consider Godzilla a dinosaur probably because of the Heisei origin. I still think the Showa origin and the Legendary origin are the best because they make Godzilla a distinct creature separate from other lifeforms.
All very true, G2014Himself. This is often overlooked and I'm glad you're one (of the few?) who understands this.
The Millennium series origins are largely unexplained, which is fine. We know who Godzilla is--We get it. No need to go in to another lengthy origin tale. Especially in an anthology series.
