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GowhaletoursGodzilla Forum }{ Mothra Spoilers }{

Wow. I thought I was the only one with sense.

"TheTruthIsOutThere" please stop. A lot of people are picking up on your bull and you're running out of things to say. Looks like you've been proven wrong, too. That puts a damper on your credibility, does it not? The farther into this film we get, the harder it'll be for you to make stuff up and be "right".

I also find it funny that you claimed RODAN will be from Mt. Pinatubo, but now that the timeline has been released, you change your story to Isla De Mona... Um...

I've already provided screenshots of speculation posted before you started spewing your "rumors", so stop trying.

you're being incredibly vague. Anybody can make these assumptions based on the timeline and movie tropes. Stop.

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The King of the MonstersGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

The alternate post-credit scene for Kong: Skull Island is not the same as the proposed discovery of Godzilla and M.U.T.O.s in ice from Godzilla 2014. In an early draft of G14, the M.U.T.O.s and a Godzilla carcass would have been discovered frozen in ice rather than under that mine in the Philippines, but this was changed to avoid similarities to Man of Steel.

The alternate post-credits scene for Kong involved the characters witnessing Godzilla surfacing in the Arctic. This was changed for continuity purposes, as Monarch had not seen Godzilla since 1954 by 2014, so it wouldn't make much sense for them to have seen him in the 1970's.

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GuestGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

^I believe the "found frozen in the ice idea" for Godzilla 2014 was going to be used in the after credits scene of Kong: Skull Island, but than instead was changed to what we got in the movie. At least that's what I think it is, but I could be wrong as well.

Nice to have you posting here. Were always welcoming and kind to other members here. :)

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goji1954Godzilla Forum*Rodan Spoilers*

I must admit, you have indeed been correct about the origins of the monsters so far. Just out of curiosity, do they have a composer selected yet? And also, will original themes be used or will the score be completely new and original?

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godzillagirl82Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Hi guys, I joined this site years ago but I hardly ever posted anything... so I guess you could say I'm a longtime reader/follower, but I thought I'd jump in here :)

Anyway I like the idea of King Ghidorah being found frozen in ice, if this is true and they're really going to roll with it for the film. It reminds me a lot of The Thing. But I wanted to add, and anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but this "found frozen in the ice" idea, wasn't this originally going to be used for Godzilla himself in the 2014 movie? But I believe as I heard, when they found out a similar idea was going to be used for Man of Steel, they decided to drop it. So in a way, if this is the idea for King Ghidorah in the finished film, it's kind of revisiting an old idea, right?

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The King of the MonstersGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla: Monster Planet Figures Revealed!

I kind of like the loose, worn-looking skin on Godzilla. The dull metallic blue color is also an interesting touch, assuming he actually looks like that in the movie. I'm not blown away by this design, but it took a while for Shin to grow on me too.

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ChrisGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

I'm with the majority here, I want Ghidorag to have a space origin. Much like THE THING, an ancient creature which crashed to Earth and was frozen in ice for millions of years. That's more believable than having 5 or more different superspecies all hybernating under the Earth's surface in my opinion.

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The King of the MonstersGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Not to mention there are countless science-fiction films that manage to, in my opinion, treat extraterrestrial life completely seriously and believably, and I could easily see the same being done for King Ghidorah. I've said it before, but I point to John Carpenter's The Thing as the perfect example. The film revolves around the discovery of an alien (which arrived on Earth in a flying saucer no less), frozen in the Antarctic ice for millions of years. The characters don't have time to discuss the plausibility or scientific ramifications of the discovery, because they're too busy fighting for their own survival. All that matters in that film is that an alien organism exists, and it can wipe out humanity if it isn't stopped. When one character is asked about how the alien is capable of the bizarre abilities it possesses, he simply replies "because it's not like us. Because it's from outer space."

My point is, if Godzilla: King of the Monsters chooses to make King Ghidorah an extraterrestrial, it could be handled in much the same way. An alien organism is discovered frozen in ancient ice. We don't really know how it got here, where it came from, or what it really is, but the point is it exists and is a threat to the planet. This is exactly how the MonsterVerse has treated its monsters in the past. We don't know exactly how these superspecies came about or how they can exist and defy every law of physics, but the point is they exist and the characters have to deal with them. King Ghidorah being an alien is not as far out of the realm of possibility as people are assuming.

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JurassicNightGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Really awesome, from the monster zero nod to the line "the devil has three heads". I cannot wait to see what's gonna happen at comic-con.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

I think some are taking this naturalism thing a bit far. "Naturalism" seems to be the word MonsterVerse fans are using in place of "realism" just to defend said realism and not sound too redundant. There's still "naturalism" in established fantasy and there's many ways that it can be applied to King Ghidorah's extraterrestrial origin.

For example, the MonsterVerse is now using the Hollow Earth theory--A concept that has been debunked since the 1700s and laughed about in the scientific community in the same way that aliens from Mars are. Quite simply, monsters coming from the Hollow Earth concept is equally as ridiculous as monsters from another planet.

Case and point: Will Farrell's Journey to the Center of the Earth movie is based on Hollow Earth theory.  It's a comedic concept in same way that little green men from Mars was in Mars Attacks! But Skull Island still approached it with this supposed realism or "naturalism" and everyone here seems to buy it. They can do the same for King Ghidorah's extraterrestrial origins.

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Im DurpGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

That's fine, just defending the idea that Ghidorah could be from space

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Im DurpGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

I think "high chance" is going a little far. Ancient just means old, a space monster can still be ancient.

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The Jurassic BootlegGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

^

I wouldn't expect that if I were you, because there is a high chance that Ghidorah is just going an ancient super species, Godzilla 2 synopsis pretty much suggested that.

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Im DurpGodzilla ForumWill more Kaiju be featured in the Monsterverse?

I could see some less significant original kaiju showing up.

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Im DurpGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

I fully expect a space origin Ghidorah.

Granted I'm just grasping at that little line from Kong and his past origins, but there needs to be something that differentiates Ghidorah, who is arguably THE villain of the Godzilla universe, from every other monster that will show up.

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Im DurpGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

^ In a movie series with giant nuclear monsters that can survive millennias, a space origin Ghidorah would be anything but unconvincing.

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The Jurassic BootlegGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Ghidorah being a space monster is just unconvincing, we all know that MonsterVerse is aiming for naturalistic tone to their movies so I doubt Legendary is going to make him a space monster. I think Legendary would likely keep Ghidorah's origin unknown in the movie.

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kaiju_khamodon54Godzilla Forum*Rodan Spoilers*

Ive got it! Mothra has poisonous powers and ends up fighting Rodan. It said Mothra may have even caused a historical event. That event is the Great Smog of London, there it is said pollution was possibly sent by a large creature flapping its wings. That is Mothra, fighting Rodan! I think I cracked the code!

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Kaiju KongGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

So excited for the "Monsterverse",I am still hoping they get the rights to Gamera. It would make it perfect

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Godzilla316Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

This could mean that the cave paintings seen in Skull Island were prophecies. Perhaps each of these sites were discovered by thousands of years ago and they predicted what they believed would happen (ie Ghidorah breaking out of the ice and fighting Godzilla)

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMonarch Timeline

2005 - A MYSTERIOUS MERCENARY -
Former British Army Colonel and MI-6 agent Jonah Alan is locked up in Pakistani prison after an encounter with Monarch agents. Alan and his band of mercenary accomplises were caught trying to breach the walls of a subterranean M.U.T.O. dig-site.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Hopefully not. That would pretty much be King Ghidorah's most boring origin by default.

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The Jurassic BootlegGodzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

^

It could have been a nod to Monster Zero movie, I doubt he's going to be a space monster, he's probably going to be a ancient dragon like creature that was born with 3 heads.

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XenotarisGodzilla 2: King of the Monsters ForumTop 10 Favourite Godzilla Monsters

10. King Kong

9. Rodan

8. King Ghidorah

7. Mutos

6. Desghidorah

5. Gojira (Godzilla 1954)

4. Mothra Leo

3. Mothra

2. Zilla (Godzilla 1998) and Godzilla 1984

1. Legendary Godzilla (Godzilla 2014)

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumWill more Kaiju be featured in the Monsterverse?

^Correct.

And for everyone here--The word "kaiju" is already plural.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

This is an excellent opportunity for King Ghidorah to be a space monster frozen away for millions of years. The "Monster Zero" title for the timeline point really gets my hopes up for that possibility.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumMonarch Timeline

This image of the timeline hints at Mothra (Temple of the Moth) and insinuates that she has already cocooned herself. It also recaps, "the Battle of San Francisco" which is a pretty cool name for the event in 2014.

2009 - TEMPLE OF THE MOTH -
Mythographic studies of Chinese temples leads MONARCH to the high-altitude jungles of the Unnan Province. Dr. Emma Russell and her team follow a mysterious bio-acoustic signature to a previously undiscovered megalithic temple, within which lies a gigantic cocoon. A quickening heartbeat is detected inside.

2012 - MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE -
Days before retirement, MONARCH veteran Houston Brooks receives a coded message from his son. The mission to Skull Island has revealed dramatic new information about Kong's origins, and his role on the island.

2014 - THE BATTLE OF SAN FRANCISCO -
The existence of giant superspecies is revealed to the world as Godzilla clashes with the two M.U.T.O.s in the center of San Francisco. Unleashing devastation upon the urban center, the world watches as Godzilla defends our world and restores balance to the natural order. The time has come for MONARCH to step out of the shadows.

2016 - MONSTER ZERO -
When MONARCH discover an extraordinary superspecies sealed beneath the Antarctic ice sheet, Dr. Vivienne Graham leads the effort to build a covert containment and research facility around the dormant creature. Her classified field notes contain a mysterious footnote: "The devil has three heads."

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The Jurassic BootlegGodzilla 2: King of the Monsters ForumTop 10 Favourite Godzilla Monsters

1. Godzilla

2. The Ghidorahs

3. Godzilla clones

4. Battra/Zilla Jr

5. Mothra Leo

6. Trilopods

7. Gigan

8. Anguirus/Rodan

9. Hedorah

10. Winged Muto(Female looks lame)

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NukeKyloRen2016!Godzilla 2: King of the Monsters ForumTop 10 Favourite Godzilla Monsters

My  list: 1.  Rodan 1957. 2. Godzilla 1985. 3. MechaGodzilla  1993. 4.  Godzilla  1956. 5. MechaGodzilla  2002. 6. King Ghidorah 1968. 7. Megalon. 8. Godzilla 2000.  9.  Destroyer. 10. Manda

 

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TheG-Fan Godzilla Minus Zero NewsGodzilla 2 Monsters: King Ghidorah origins teased in latest MONARCH viral video!

Danzilla93....There was another timeline detail revealed along with the Ghidorah one, stating that in 1991 a containment facility was put around the mouth of a dormant volcano on Isla de Mona. I'm thinking a hint at Rodan?  There was also another one bypassed that people have gotten a screenshot of, stating a temple was found in China, containing a huge cocoon, with a "quickening heartbeat" inside.  

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FanzillaGodzilla Forum }{ Mothra Spoilers }{

Looks like Mothra's temple is in China, and with her being cocooned they may skip straight to her Imago form in Godzilla 2.

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morgoth9899Godzilla ForumMonarch Timeline

@Fanzilla, he also said the monsterverse will be prevalent at SDCC this year, and there is no Godzilla at all this year. LOL

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