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I just wish the picture had a higher resolution, you barely read a darn thing in it. I suppose that's intentional as to not give anything away, but man.

^

Perhaps these from Ghidorah 1964 can help?

^That makes more sense than the roar. 

The satellite pic kind of looks like a hurricane to me. Not sure how it’d be related to KG though. 

I can almost guaranteed you all that the recording of the rattlesnake is for Ghidorah's gravity beams.

He better keep all three heads. Ghidorah is invincible!

A rattlesnake? Ok, I was hoping they would use hyena laugh as an inspiration for KG's roar but ok, as long the roar sounds cool.

To me, as long he has 2 legs, 2 wings(Could be any kinds of wings), and 2 tails, its King Ghidorah, for me anyway.

I remember my first form of Godzilla media was not a movie, in fact it was a game, it was Godzilla Unleashed for the Ps2 for that matter!

The games was not perfect by any means but it was still fun for me as a kid and so it made me the kaiju fan i am today!

I expect something wyvern-ish design, but to be honnest as long as it is good in the end, im fine with it...

G. H. (Gman),

I couldn't tell if he was being facetious or not

Very interesting though. Thank you The King of the Monsters! 

I kind of always just thought that all those films were cannon anyway. I mean how else can the film Destroy All Monsters explain other kaiju like Baragon, Gorosaurus, Manda, Varan and others just appearing with Godzilla and others? I just thought it was all the same story line anyway and kind of expected it to be explained but never was.

I hope TOHO makes things more clear in the upcoming Cinematic Universe that they want to do.

Since we are discussing sensitive opinions. The G.I.N.O. cartoon series doesn't make up the terrible abomination that birthed it. They made a terrible movie. Fans were robbed of a Godzilla movie that was promised to be so amazing but (once again IMO) failed on every level to bring us a tried and true Godzilla film. Instead we got... that.

At 12 years old I felt robbed of a chance to see an authentic Godzilla movie. I scraped and saved for a movie ticket and when I left I was distraught and angry. Then after punching me in the gut you think a cartoon version of the gut punch was supposed to make up for anything?

The only thing that made the sting go away was the arrival of Godzilla 2000. To see that on a big screen made me happy.

And we're giving ours.

It sucks.

Okay sorry i forgot the names of some godzilla films. which I have all the godzilla movies from the original Gojira to G2014. However I was stating my opinion, I quite frankly loved Godzilla 1998. It wasn't my first godzilla movie, matter of fact it was my second, my first Godzilla movie was Godzilla vs the Astromonster (if i got that one's name wrong too, then i'm sorry). I do know what i'm talking about because I started a godzilla marathon back in 2014, so sorry that my opinions do not match yours or the overall godzilla fanbase consensus. 

@G. H. (Gman) But at least we got an animated series with his atomic-breathing, more durable, and (controversially) bigger son afterward, right?

By the way, I know his father "took the 'God' out  of 'Godzilla'", but does Zilla Jr. deserve the name, or is he still a G.I.N.O.? (I'm sorry I asked this. I was just curious about everyone's opinions.)

Well that's nauseating.

As if that doesn't muck up things already, trying to wrap my head around Kong's amazing shrinking trick in the Showa series is also hard to swallow. Cinematic Universe indeed...

Been a while since the last post, but there's some interesting information regarding this topic that came to light. The 2014 book Godzilla Dictionary [New Edition] actually includes a comprehensive timeline of the series that provides some information not in any other sources.

First of all, while it obviously demonstrates that every film from Godzilla (1954) through Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975) is part of the Showa continuity and that Godzilla (1954) along with the Heisei series comprises the Heisei continuity, it also shows that not only are Mothra and Rodan canon to the Showa Godzilla films, but so are Varan, Atragon, Frankenstein vs. Baragon, War of the Gargantuas, and King Kong Escapes. All of said films are also separately canon to the Kiryu Saga continuity.

Most interestingly is that this book does not treat the line about a monster similar to Godzilla attacking New York at the beginning of GMK as a joke. It includes GODZILLA (1998) in the GMK continuity on the timeline, between Godzilla (1954) and GMK. It is even more explicit about this in an entry titled "Giant creature that closely resembles Godzilla," which states: "At the beginning of GMK, Admiral Tachibana told the young soldiers that a gigantic creature struck the United States at the end of the 20th century. In America it was named Godzilla, but Japanese scholars do not believe it to be so. The creature does not appear onscreen, but it goes without saying that it is the American version GODZILLA (1998). In the world of GMK, the events of vs. Megaguirus or Raids Again do not exist, but the American version GODZILLA exists."

So, at least according to this source, the 1998 film does take place in the GMK universe and is set between the original film and GMK. In the GMK universe, the events of that film happened, and the monster is canonically not Godzilla. Obviously this is an act of retroactive continuity, since Emmerich and Devlin intended the film to not be a follow-up to any previous film, but so is the inclusion of many of Toho's non-Godzilla films into the Godzilla continuities.

"Like Godzilla vs Hedorah? Godzilla vs Mechaghidorah? Godzilla vs Jet Jaguar?"

Those aren't even movies... So maybe you should take another look.

"Oh i forgot to mention Son of Godzilla and that one godzilla movie where Minilla was talking to a kid."

Also the wrong movie, so really don't have any idea what you're talking about.

Whether one finds the G'98 film better than some of the other films is irrelevant. It still failed to be what the others WERE: A Godzilla movie. It doesn't speak highly that a multi-million dollar budget, Hollywood movie could get so wrong what supposedly "inferior" and less expensive movies did so right. Emmerich threw money at the movie with no thought, Fukuda and Honda had to be creative and resourceful to get around their budget restrictions--Like it or not, the latter shows greater filmmaking versatility.

The 1998 movie is celluloid cliche of 1990s action-tropes and a blueprint for why 90s blockbusters had to change to what we have today.

And for the record, Godzilla's Revenge is an excellent, unique piece of storytelling by Ishiro Honda despite its technical failings. It had more heart, dedication and reverence than the 1998 movie which is essentially about nothing...

@Xenotaris

Godzilla vs Mechaghidorah and Godzilla vs Jet Jaguar aren't real Godzilla movies.

If you're referring to Godzilla vs King Ghidorah (1991) and Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973), then you are totally wrong there. GvsKG is regarded by many to be within the top 10 Godzilla movies ever made, and GvsM (while not the best *made* film) is regarded by many to be campy fun and a total popcorn flick.

As for, Godzilla vs Hedorah and Son of Godzilla, people love the former just for how bizarre a film it is and the latter for how heart warming it is.

Godzilla's Revenge, on the other hand, I'll give to you. I would agree that that's a worse Godzilla movie than G1998; kid's film or not.

 Oh i forgot to mention Son of Godzilla and that one godzilla movie where Minilla was talking to a kid.

Oh come on, this isn't the worse godzilla movie ever made. I know plenty of Toho movies that were a lot worse. Like Godzilla vs Hedorah? Godzilla vs Mechaghidorah? Godzilla vs Jet Jaguar?

I cant wait.... to forget about this movie.

SuperZillaRealms,
He was being facetious.

In the novel, the juveniles were used by the pack as a decoy for tanks, which the adults then destroyed from the tops of buildings above.

It does make me wonder how multiple iterations of the Zilla creature (yes, I know it's still legally considered "Godzilla", but it's Zilla in practice) from the original film would've coexisted with one another.

^

Always wondered what would happen if those baby zillas got loose in a city.

In terms with films Guardians Of The Galaxy came out in 2014, while Suicide Squad came out in 2016. So technically its the other way around

I think the Godzilla: Monster Apocalypse prequel novel to the anime trilogy did right by the creature whilst also preserving its movie qualities and not just turning it into Godzilla-lite, making it its own thing.

In the prequel novel, Zilla showed up in France and proved to be the most difficult monster to free a region from due to their immense asexual fertility, pack tactics, and speed/agility. Whilst individually weak (THEY CAN BE TAKEN DOWN WITH A SINGLE MASER CANNON SHOT), they made up for this weakness with sheer numbers.

I always enjoyed this movie. Godzilla, Zilla, whatever yo want to call it, is a fun monster movie with some great action and cool monster carnage. As a fan of giant monster movies, what's not to like?

Well, I liked Emmerich's Godzilla. This is fan movie. And I liked the animated series. I liked the design, speed and agility of this Godzilla.

Godzilla would not kill Zilla. Look how he treated Orgah. He didn't want to kill a clone that was trying to kill him until he had to and it was really Orgah's bad for trying to eat him. I think Godzilla would enjoy Zilla's company very much, every Godzilla is a God not ruthless stupid monsters. Divine retribution, Godzilla 98 should have smoked humans and been a Robin to Godzilla's Batman in Final wars.

I can't wait to celebrate by ignoring it.

^

And it wasn't even a long fight, like with the other monsters.

I always liked Zilla. I hated how the japanese retardingly killed poor Zilla off in Godzilla final fart wars

"Had the film been named something different, perhaps fans would have been more welcoming to Emmerich's Iguana-Kaiju."

So, hypothetically of course, say someone were to put together an edit of the movie that removes all mention of the word "Godzilla" and replaces it with something else. 

Would people enjoy it more?

yeah I agree kulass he or she was very smart when fighting the army.

I wouldn't say it's terrible. It's just a product of its time, entirely. It reeks of 90s flare, which is either good or bad, depending on your viewpoint. I personally enjoy it and see it's just competent. Not unwatchable or anything. It's made well, at the very least and the monster's portrayed exceptionally for what it is. It's not everyday we get an intelligent Godzilla, after all.

@Im Durp

You're telling me. I was born in the same year. I age with this movie.


Anyways

I have a soft spot for G1998; it was the first kaiju movie I ever saw and it got me hooked on the genre as a kid. Nowadays, however, the nostalgia goggles are my only source of enjoyment for it. Everything about it (except maybe the score by David Arnold) is just terrible. XD Again, I still enjoy it. But that doesn't stop it from being a garbage movie.

this king ghidorah could be 800 meters tall. 

At the time I was enraged but it's way more of a Godzilla than shin. I just feel bad for Godzilla 98 and how I should have had her back this whole time. The cartoons were sweet but the design was a shock and her defeat made me go berserk. All hail the Dragon Mother!

I still enjoy this movie alot, it was a part of my childhood. It's not Godzilla but I like to watch it from time to time, no matter how goofy it gets. It also sparked a fun animated series.