Thats not exactly what I meant but fair point

I'm as old as Godzilla vs Biollante

I mean usually there were two godzillas in late showa, Heisei, and Final Wars.

Godzilla and his son Minilla/Godzilla Junior

I didnt really like the two Godzilla’s idea.

Its just like. This leak has like “write the og theme, but like make it super heavy handed.” It also kinda removes a lot of tragedy that Goji usually has 

Also, the iconic tree moment.  Genius.

It's pretty clear that this 4Chan leak is fake, and most of them are.

But the idea of two Godzillas is interesting.

God_Zilla,
Old.

How old are ya'll, you make REALLY good critics

I think two would be fine

how bout 9 godzillas?

I never knew it was fake.

LoL, calm down dude. 

SasquaDash

indeed

I figured it was fake.

The two Godzillas idea sounded kind of interesting though.

I don’t like this idea. 

some of Showa era films reference US Nuclear tests Godzilla vs Megalon, and Rodan for example and the Heisei era Godzilla vs King Ghidora specifically references WW2 heck part of it takes place During WW2. 

The original 1962 film is one of the franchise's best. A wonderful time capsule for problematic Japanese media issues and the country's difficult transition into capitalism. I find myself going back to it more and more as I get older.

To answer some of these questions.

It’s pretty clear that Godzilla won the fight. Even though he didn’t kill Kong (although Kong did come close to dying), Godzilla beat Kong down and asserted his dominance over him (which is what mostly happens with animals in nature). At the end of the movie, Kong drops his axe when confronted with Godzilla, showing that he submits and doesn’t want to fight again (during the confrontation, Godzilla also motions towards the axe, as a way of telling Kong to “drop it”, which indicates that Godzilla has no desire to continue the fight either). 

It makes sense to focus on Kong as the main character as he is more human-like, which inherently makes him more relatable and gives him more personality than Godzilla, especially given Toho’s recent trend of wanting to portray Godzilla with little to no personality/motivation (apparently Legendary really had to push for Godzilla's expressive scenes in GvK). Kong is also much more sympathetic as he's portrayed as the underdog in the fight and continuously goes through hell during the events of the movie, when all he really wants is to have a peaceful life and a new home. The film also emphasizes that because he’s presumably the last of his kind, he’s extremely lonely and wants to be part of a family (which is why he's so caring towards Jia and why he immediately enters the Hollow Earth at the possibility of finding others of his kind there). Because of this, it’s easier to root for Kong in this story, rather than Godzilla. While the film focuses more on Kong as the main character, it doesn’t diminish Godzilla’s role in the film, he still plays a huge part in the story.

The axe was made by the ancient Kongs that lived in the Hollow Earth, using the skeletal remains of other Titans (specifically the Gojira species). It may initially seem odd that a species of giant apes would create axes, however real life species of great apes have been observed using tools, with accounts of chimpanzees and bonobos crafting makeshift spears and using very primitive stone tools and sometimes bones (similar to early human ancestors). So it's not too much of a stretch that a more advanced fictional species of giant ape would create complex tools to help in their daily lives. Plus building weapons would help to give the Kongs an advantage over other Titans, since they lack energy attacks (like Godzilla’s atomic breath) or other supernatural abilities.

As far as Mechagodzilla's plotline goes, there's no indication that it's focused on Kong aside from APEX wanting to use him to guide them to the Hollow Earth energy source. Most of the focus is directed towards Godzilla, with APEX specifically modeling their creation after him so that they can rival his power. APEX feels threatened by the Titans’ existence and they desire to be stronger than them so that humanity can remain the dominant life forms on the planet (which is why they're called "APEX" in the first place), and given that Godzilla is the "Alpha Titan'' and therefore, the dominant life form on Earth, they want to overthrow him in order to claim that title. When Mechagodzilla is later possessed by the consciousness of King Ghidorah, he immediately goes for Godzilla, coming close to killing him until Kong intervenes. Even during the main fight, Mechagodzilla is more focused on Godzilla, aiming most of his attacks at him, while Kong is viewed more as an annoyance that Mechagodzilla initially tries to shake off. It isn’t until Kong starts doing a lot of damage that Mechagodzilla finally turns his attention towards him and actually tries to kill him. 

Lastly, Godzilla being the main focus of a film doesn’t necessarily mean that he’ll have more screen time. Both Godzilla (1954) and Shin Godzilla have him as the sole focus, yet he still has minimal screen time in those films, with a lot of moments where he is either absent or inactive, and the Polygon anime trilogy barely used him despite the fact that he was supposedly the main focus. Godzilla’s screen time in the next Toho film will mostly depend on how they want to use him, so it's possible that he might have more screen time, but it's also possible that he won't (and given how Toho has been portraying him in their recent projects, it's very possible that it might be the latter).

Monke

Ya thats true, but I think that they could have made him more focused on Godzilla, but I see your point

Overall King Kong vs Godzilla was a better movie than Godzilla vs Kong. But that's not to say GvK wasn't entertaining as far as the kaiju battles went however the human side of things was kind of.... meh. Though I applaud GvK for returning Mechagodzilla back to his evil roots.

if nobody joins team rodan I am going to eat a ghost pepper.

(metaphorically) 

Also worth mentioning the original 54’ film i believe directly talks about the USAs nuclear testing, I guess

There seem to be a lot of new members lately. Like, a lot. 

 crap I got Mothra vs Godzilla and Godzilla vs Mothra switched around

The American occupation had ended before 1954, so they no longer had any say with Japanese media depicting or referencing WWII. At the time though, it was just considered taboo since the occupation had conditioned the Japanese not to talk about it in media.

It's a different world 70 years later. Japan has no issue criticizing American influence. Godzilla vs. Biollante, Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, Godzilla x MechaGodzilla and Shin Godzilla all do it. To an extent so did Mothra (1961), King Kong vs. Godzilla and Mothra vs. Godzilla. Present day artists have no issue hammering home the tougher issue and Yamazaki, who has been very critical of American influence on Japan over the last several decades in a lot of his films, is probably one of the last filmmakers afraid of offending anyone.

For the sake of continuity I created this thread awhile ago:

Godzilla Franchise Continuities

As much as I really liked Gigan Rex, I liked Gigan's Attack a bit more.

I think I'll just watch the whole series now, why not?

Yeah I think thats what they were talking about

i think what times was trying to say it was scared of American censorship in the 50s. 

But ww2 is not like a taboo subject in Japanese art. I think there’s a ghibli film that touches on it.

Should I make a Gamera movie watch list?

1998 is mentioned in GmK

Oh yeah, I forgot about War of the Gargantua, Now that you mention it I'll make a separate list for series

Xenotaris

Don't forget War of the Gargantuas, the Hanna-Barbera Godzilla cartoon and Godzilla: The Series.

 Sorry I also included Monsterverse

Showa

Gojira/Godzilla (1954)

Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Rodan (1956)

Varan! (1958)
Mothra (1961)

Godzilla vs King Kong (1963)

Atragon (1963)

Godzilla vs Mothra (1964)

Three Headed Monster: Ghidorah (1964)

The Astro Monster (1965)

Ebirah, Terror of the Deep (1966)

Frankenstein vs Baragon (1966)

King Kong Escapes (1967)

Son of Godzilla (1967)
Destroy All Monsters (1968)
All Monsters Attack (1969)

Godzilla vs Hedorah (1971)

Godzilla vs Gigan (1972)

Godzilla vs Megalon (1973)

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla (1974)

Terror of Mechagodzilla (1975)

Heisei

Godzilla Returns (1984)

Godzilla vs Biollante (1989)

Godzilla vs King Ghidorah (1991)

Mothra vs Godzilla (1992)

Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla II (1993)

Godzilla vs Space Godzilla (1994)

Godzilla vs Destoroyah (1995)

Rebirth of Mothra (1996)

Rebirth of Mothra (1997)

Rebirth of Mothra (1998)

TriStar

Godzilla (1998)

Millennium

Godzilla 2000 (1999)

Godzilla vs Megaguruis (2000)

Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah (2001)

Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (2002)
Godzilla Tokyo SOS (2003)

Godzilla Final Wars (2004)

Reiwa

Shin Godzilla (2016)

Godzilla: Planet of the Monsters (2017)

Godzilla: City on the Edge of Battle (2018)

Godzilla: The Planet Eater (2019)

Monsterverse

Godzilla (2014)

Kong: Skull Island (2017)

Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)

Godzilla vs Kong (2021)

Okay I'll try to list down both the godzilla movies and some of the auxillary movies you may need to watch in context. Auxillary movies are optional

Yeah, could I have the list of every title as well?