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Well obviously I was gone too long to catch all the venom this time around, so I'll simply wrap up my thoughts with this:

I can't believe I live in a world where there's a pro-nuclear Godzilla movie, but I think I'm even more dumbfounded that there are plenty okay with it and defending it. Why should Japan not have an entire franchise dedicated to the dangers of nuclear proliferation? After all, the United States already has its own franchises that praise it without fault! Radioactive spiders give people powers, remember? An alien hero standing for truth, justice and the American way gets energy from the sun's radiation without any of those pesky negative effects. "Gamma" radiation makes a different type of mean, green fighting machine. But how dare the Godzilla franchise fly in the opposite direction, right? It's only been doing it for 65 years.

We have enough western franchises doing that and putting the pro-nuke stamp on Godzilla is the most cynical form of whitewashing we could've committed against the property. I have no problem with the series tackling other issues, but to contradict its core basics doesn't speak highly about the filmmakers behind the 2019 flick. I have no doubt Dougherty's a fan, but I don't think he's the kind of fan I'd want to hang out with.

 I ignore the movie and just call her Zilla, Godzilla98, or the Atlantic Godzilla (on my spacebattles Kaiju Files)

Zilla looks pretty damn awesome. It's a shame, really. Could have been a really cool Godzilla. The only Zilla worthy of the Godzilla name, in my opinion, is Zilla Junior. He stays true to the actual character of Godzilla, even though the radiation is kinda downplayed (it is a cartoon, after all. It can't be held to the same standard of radiation based horror that the OG movie was, similar to the Hanna Barbara Godzilla. Still a Godzilla despite downplaying radiation. Arguably this show still does show the horrors of it, just in easier way to conceptualize for a child and not quite as horrifying, the mutations. Almost all of them are born from pollution and oil and the such, so this strongly lends in favor of Zilla Junior being a Godzilla). I mean, it's like how in GMK the radiation aspect was downplayed, but it still had a lot to say and was meaningful (while still also showing radiation as horrible/a power that can be used for bad) in a different way. Zilla Junior, despite being descended from a creature undeserving (in my opinion) of the name Godzilla, has earned the name of Godzilla. I'll probably always treat him as such, but still refer to him as Zilla Junior. I do accidentally call him Godzilla sometimes though lol. Once again, a lot of this is just my opinion lol.

Okay at least people love Zilla's design, but yeah the 98 movie should of had the classic godzilla themes and characterization 

I'm going to try and stay away from the trailers and news about it. A lot was spoiled in the KOTM trailers, so I want to leave everything as a surprise this time lol

2019 Godzilla is more badass

'19 seems to have a slightly thinner snout and a longer neck, and of course his dorsal plates are different. He's a bit beefier too.

This is awesome.

I'll let the release of the trailer surprise me as well. Otherwise it's just beating a dead horse.

I'll let the release of the trailer surprise me as well. Otherwise it's just beating a dead horse.

Not gonna lie, but I think Godzilla 1998's design was R A D. But I don't view him as Godzilla, rather, I call him GINO. Zilla Junior was definetely worthy of the name Godzilla, but I prefer calling him Toon-zilla.

Well, I mean, disasters have always had a way of affecting the whole country, like Pearl Harbor or 9/11. I mean, no disrespect to either disaster, they were tragedies of immense proportions, but imagine what a disaster, like, the destruction of one of the most populated and well known cities of America and it being uninhabitable for thousands of years, as well as most of the population dying from an illness brought from the disaster. Especially when the military was POWERLESS to stop it. Remember the panic that gripped the country after 9/11? Imagine that, except multiplied by at least 5. I mean, what would you feel if a giant creature destroyed New York, killed almost all of its residents, left it uninhabitable, the military couldn't stop it, and no one knows where it is?

That was one hecc of a comment.

I do agree there, but I liked the movie the way it was, it was fine. I don't know if the disaster would effect ALL of America, though. Maybe just near NY. 

I don't really know what I'm saying here oof 

Perhaps if Godzilla 1998 didn't have Roland Emmerick as its director and maybe lets say Steven Spielberg it would have touched on those classic Godzilla themes

Okay

Honestly, I agree with you Xenotaris. It was ALMOST worthy of the Godzilla name. Zilla Junior was more worthy of it, because it was an anti-hero, a smart, but animalistic creature, and incredibly durable, taking super weapons to kill him. It's why Godzilla was so horrible in the original, he couldn't be killed by conventional weaponry, bringing up everything with the oxygen destroyer (the fear of what came next). Honestly, I LOVE Zilla's design, but her movie... no. Not a Godzilla. This is coming from someone who would treat Shin Form 2 as an actual Godzilla if it was the only form for the whole movie. Zilla's movie, however, was awful if you treat her as Godzilla, in my opinion. It doesn't really follow the original theme, because A. It really downplayed the radiation deal. Maybe if they show the effects of her radiation on New York, it would be a good movie, enough to consider her a Godzilla. It would really give some added horror to Zilla, and make her a GODzilla. However, there is no side affect to her radiation, so a lot of the added horror is already gone. Can't be killed unless by a super weapon that may possibly bring about an even worse era of warfare? Nope. I mean, it wasn't necessary to have something like the oxygen destroyer. They can just have her get away and go into hibernation, or wreak havoc in the world, or do a poison or chemical thing like in Shin Godzilla. However, missiles? Missiles? 2 friggin missiles killed her... Not only did she not release radiation... not only did she not cause any irreversible damage to New York... she wasn't even all that hard to kill? Seriously? Though, to give some credit, the asexual reproduction thing was probably the "big danger," but all that did was provide excuses to create scenes "inspired by" (copies of) scenes from Jurassic Park. And even with that replacement of it, it still didn't really cause any real harm to New York, nothing that could have made you really fear for New York. Just to reiterate what would have happened if they made it so Zilla was constantly releasing radiation like in 1954, the damage to AT LEAST the areas she went through would be IRREVERSIBLE. Imagine what happened to Tokyo into 1954, but in New York, and worse because the creature was fast and could cover more ground, and it can burrow and make the radiation seep into the very earth beneath the city. New York would be effectively destroyed, many would slowly die from radiation poisoning, the survivors would be bankrupt and have to leave New York forever, one of the most populated and well known cities in America would be destroyed. If they went that route, they could have had Zilla destroy the Statue Of Liberty to foreshadow what will happen to New York and how America will react. They could have gone a step further and shown how this has affected the rest of America, and the rest of the world. I mean, it could have gotten to the point of, and maybe even worse than all the emotions we felt as a nation after 9/11 (not to disrespect what happened there at all). This time, there was no possible way we could defeat the creature, and we had no idea where it is. We would just have to live with the ever-looming threat of Godzilla for years and years, waiting for her to arise yet again... Perfect sequel material! Next time maybe put her in San Francisco, or Houston, or just anywhere in the world! Maybe have her have some offspring (maybe not 40,000, probably more like 2-10) in between and have them cause more havoc. Maybe we attack with experimental weapons and kill them, BUT THEN WE CREATE MORE KAIJU!!!! It would be like we dug our own grave more! And then the original Godzilla comes and kills them, basically being an anti-hero. I mean, it could have been the American version of Godzilla, but they messed it up horribly with one main fault. They downplayed the whole threat of radiation and nuclear warfare. The radiation itself was the scary thing, not the creature. It kept the origin similar, but it got wrong what made Godzilla great. The fact that even without the creature, a similar result can be reached by our own hands. It was a cautionary tale not of creating a giant monster, but of becoming the monsters ourselves and causing irreparable damage to others with nuclear power. But here the main threat was just impossibly big iguana, not the all to real ramifications of nuclear power. Seriously, that little bit would have saved them money on CGI, and made the movie MUCH better. Just make the creature release radiation. That's it. It'll be a horror of astronomical proportions with that little bit. Especially since that actually CAN happen in real life. It's what made the original Godzilla so great. The scary part wasn't what was imaginary. It was what was real.

Sorry if that sounded like a ramble, but that's basically why I don't consider Zilla a Godzilla. It's not her appearance, not her odd abilities or lack there of. It's the fact that A. the movie itself was pretty bad and B. it lacked the fundamental aspect of Godzilla. Hell, it didn't even say or do anything meaningful to anywhere the extent that most Godzilla movies do, like GMK or Shin Godzilla. I mean, the radiation was very much downplayed in GMK, and in Shin Godzilla it was an incredible threat until they realized in the end it had a very short half-life (Yay! people can go back in a couple years instead of thousands! Happy(er) ending!), but at least they had stuff of SOME importance to say and made it clear what they wanted to say. I mean, at least in the Monsterverse, despite possibly being pro-nuclear and mainly being action flicks, had environmental messages, and showed the devastation the radiation had on San Francisco and Vegas and the such. Especially in 2014 with the MUTOs. 1998... it failed that, and had they done it right, it would have saved them money on CGI, and it would have made it the definitive first American Godzilla movie. Hell, it would be one of my favorites if they had simply just shown the devastation radiation had on New York, and hopefully the effects of the whole disaster on the rest of America. 

I meant he copied Burning Godzilla.

Actually Monsterverse Godzilla shares more traits with the Showa Godzilla than Heisei with its design closely resembling early millennium godzilla.

The vastness of plots set by movies and of course the monsters, especially the ever changing design of the King of the Monsters.

Xenotaris,

No,it goes like this:

Showa:Doofy giant Aquatic Creature

Heisei:Popular Godzillasaurus which has a son (Godzilla Jr.)

Tristar:A Mutated and hated Iguana

Monsterverse:Copy of Heisei Godzlla (If you don't get it then i'll tell you why)

Reiwa:Kamata-Kun (Shin Godzilla),mutated Piranha Plant (Anime)

okay,then.

Monster_Zero 2112 

Godzilla's origins change with each series.

Showa = A mutated intermediate aquatic dinosaur

Heisei = A mutated Godzillasaurus (possibly a type of tyrannosauroid if not a tyrannosaurid)

Tristar = A mutated Marine Iguana

Millennium = A mutated dinosaur in most, a ghost of dead WWII sailors/victims in GMK

Monsterverse = A naturally evolved radioactive dinosauromorph

Reiwa = A mutated unknown aquatic lifeform (Shin Godzilla) and a naturally evolved plantanimal god (Anime Godzilla)

Iguanas are cool I think

He's a giant iguana!

I love Godzilla 1998's design. Sure she is not a traditional Godzilla. As I get older I also come to love all of the Godzilla's designs. Each series has its own rendition of the character, too bad Tristar Godzilla never got to shine in its own movie series but I guess that is why we have the animated series.

Showa's Godzilla was initially a tragic monster that suffered a mutation caused by atomic bomb testings and had to be put down by a WMD that was worse than the atomic bomb. Then latter became a guardian of the planet Earth in the second and third decade of the showa series.

Heisei's Godzilla returned to its villian roots its in debut film and gradually transformed into an anti-hero of sorts.

Tristar's Godzilla returns to its roots as a tragic monster mutated by atomic testing. Rather than being a dinosaur mutated by american nuclear bombs out in the pacific, it was a Marine Iguana mutated by french nuclear bomb testings out in the Atlantic. This Godzilla was going for a more naturalistic depiction of Godzilla.  

Millenium's Godzilla stuck with the anti-hero with its first two movies only to have him swap roles with King Ghidorah in GMK. The next two millenium movies pit him up against mechagodzilla before returning him to his role as antihero in Godzilla Final Wars.

Monsterverse's Godzilla return to Godzilla's later showa roots as a guardian and a fan-service to the Japanese Godzilla with top notch American special effects.

Reiwa's Godzilla went back to its tragic monster roots but amplified its powers considerably and again in the anime trilogy.

Phase 4 is already here.

IDW comics Godzilla can probably survive Thanos's snap

I'm so sorry, but you gotta watch it. I can't help myself.

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oh,well.

I kinda think of him as Zilla, but I don't really care. I think he's cool.

Gino refers to "Godzilla in name only"

They took the "God' out of "Godzilla"

I view 98 Godzilla as GINO, not Zilla.

What he said, or typed since we can't hear each other's voices.

Eh, whatever...

I have my opinion, you have yours.

If you don't watch it, then you're not a true godzilla fan. Also, the 1998 Godzilla movie SUCKED. One of the people that worked on it said that they took a jewel and turned into dust. They took him as they thought he really was, an animal acting on instinct.

Too far to- neutral doesn't seem like goody two shoes to me, but difference of opinion I guess.

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Scified won't let me edit for some reason, so putting this here.

Man, if I were a gambler, I'd play this lol. But I get addicted to stuff easily, especially video games so... for my own financial well being, I probably won't play it lol

Then it just takes itself too far to Godzilla being a good guy again. And then we'll have another incident like the later Showa Era in which Godzilla isn't cool anymore because they made him look like something meant for little kids again.