Godzilla KOTM- is it worth a watch? Hear me out...
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Due to time, I have a long list of movies old and new I have not seen. I don't go to theaters and just buy discs or stream. Is KOTM worth it or should I move on? The last Godzilla movie I saw was 2014 and while good enough, I never felt compelled to watch it again.
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"I hope,one day,i will go to the U.S.A..."
Ganimes V.8,December 10th 2019


Though really it was a good movie.
I saw it in IMAX, so it was quite....realistic I should say.

Same. I even have a poster-style ticket.
Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

If you’re fine with watching a film that focuses more on the visual spectacle and less on the quality of the film, then Godzilla: King of the Monsters is the film for you. Despite having a stellar cast, the actors alone are unable to save the film with their talent, although some do manage to give their best which allows a general interest to develop for their character: Kyle Chandler, especially. One of the film’s saving graces, however, is the soundtrack by Bear McCreary. He does a phenomenal job.
I went in with low expectations (and glad I did) but the film is not all what the hype made it out to be. I was not impressed with it, but I felt the film was another byproduct of Hollywood attempting to produce their own film that comes from a foreign background without an understanding to what makes said film unique. Godzilla (2014) also overlooks as to what makes the titular character a representation of the atomic bomb; and Godzilla (1998), surprisingly, did a better job in attempting to recreate said aspect but failed to deliver in the end. Hollywood opts to entertain an audience rather than teach one with meaningful lessons.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters still feels like a Godzilla film, though I would rank it as one the worst Godzilla films in the franchise. And, with what’s been made in the MonsterVerse so far, only makes me hope that the MonsterVerse ends with Godzilla vs. Kong.

The Hooded Figure #TeamGodzilla Thanks for a thoughtful review! I think I will see it but set my expectations lower.
Oddly, I LIKED 1998 much to the Forum's chagrin!

I like Godzilla 1998, but only when I treat that Godzilla as Zilla. It seems ok then. But for a Godzilla... not sitting well with me. Kinda true to the original idea, but also messes up following the original idea as well.
If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.

Yeah, I like 98 as well. Though I think you already knew that ;w;

98 was alright for me. I thought it was rather bad, but it was bad enough to be good.
Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

I liked the creature itself. It was fast and agile- JP was big back then so maybe 98 picked up on that. I also liked the final scene in the stadium after the crushing bridge scene. It was a fist pumping YEAH moment!

Yeah, the baby zillas scene was "inspired" (copied) SO MANY SCENES FROM JURASSIC PARK
If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.

While I do respect your Opinion The Hooded Figure, I must respectfully disagree, as I believed that KOTM was a good movie. Sure, there were parts that we all could've done differently, but overall, i feel like Mike Dougherty did a good job and provided the fans with enough monster action for ONE movie. I'd honestly prefer KOTM to be split into two movies, since there were so many kaiju to fit into one movie


More monster action doesn’t equate for a better film. Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II and Godzilla vs. Monster Zero (both favorites of mine) prove that the amount of screen time Godzilla is given is irrelevant when determining the quality of the film. The former holding the most screen time for Godzilla but considered one of the worst in the franchise, and the latter holding the least amount of screen time for Godzilla but considered one of the best in the franchise.
And Godzilla: King of the Monsters did not have too many monsters that made it difficult to give screen time to. Two of the monsters (Godzilla and Ghidorah) were central to the film’s plot, another two (Mothra and Rodan) served a supporting role for the central monsters, and the rest (other Titans) were only featured to add context to the role of an Alpha. I’d say they were given the appropriate screen time needed for the film — even if a particular two (Mothra and Rodan) were not necessarily needed other than to please the fandom.

These kinds of topics and discussions really show how us fans might be fans of the same franchise but for different reasons. Some might consider the human plot, the action or the amount of kaiju screen time more in their overall view of the movie.
For me, the reason why I love KOTM is because of its portrayal of the Kaiju (which is also one of the main reasons I love this genre in general) and how they were reimagined for a new audience. Both the beauty and the terror of these creatures which might as well be gods. Whilst I agree with the problems people might have about the human plot, they were as well developed as most secondary characters because, in my eyes, the kaiju are the main characters and they were impressively characterized in this movie.
Long live the king...

If you don't watch it, then you're not a true godzilla fan. Also, the 1998 Godzilla movie SUCKED. One of the people that worked on it said that they took a jewel and turned into dust. They took him as they thought he really was, an animal acting on instinct.

Eh, whatever...
I have my opinion, you have yours.

What he said, or typed since we can't hear each other's voices.

I view 98 Godzilla as GINO, not Zilla.
Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

They took the "God' out of "Godzilla"

Gino refers to "Godzilla in name only"
Zwei Wing is the best singing duo. Change my mind.

I kinda think of him as Zilla, but I don't really care. I think he's cool.

oh,well.

I'm so sorry, but you gotta watch it. I can't help myself.
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I love Godzilla 1998's design. Sure she is not a traditional Godzilla. As I get older I also come to love all of the Godzilla's designs. Each series has its own rendition of the character, too bad Tristar Godzilla never got to shine in its own movie series but I guess that is why we have the animated series.
Showa's Godzilla was initially a tragic monster that suffered a mutation caused by atomic bomb testings and had to be put down by a WMD that was worse than the atomic bomb. Then latter became a guardian of the planet Earth in the second and third decade of the showa series.
Heisei's Godzilla returned to its villian roots its in debut film and gradually transformed into an anti-hero of sorts.
Tristar's Godzilla returns to its roots as a tragic monster mutated by atomic testing. Rather than being a dinosaur mutated by american nuclear bombs out in the pacific, it was a Marine Iguana mutated by french nuclear bomb testings out in the Atlantic. This Godzilla was going for a more naturalistic depiction of Godzilla.
Millenium's Godzilla stuck with the anti-hero with its first two movies only to have him swap roles with King Ghidorah in GMK. The next two millenium movies pit him up against mechagodzilla before returning him to his role as antihero in Godzilla Final Wars.
Monsterverse's Godzilla return to Godzilla's later showa roots as a guardian and a fan-service to the Japanese Godzilla with top notch American special effects.
Reiwa's Godzilla went back to its tragic monster roots but amplified its powers considerably and again in the anime trilogy.

He's a giant iguana!


Godzilla's origins change with each series.
Showa = A mutated intermediate aquatic dinosaur
Heisei = A mutated Godzillasaurus (possibly a type of tyrannosauroid if not a tyrannosaurid)
Tristar = A mutated Marine Iguana
Millennium = A mutated dinosaur in most, a ghost of dead WWII sailors/victims in GMK
Monsterverse = A naturally evolved radioactive dinosauromorph
Reiwa = A mutated unknown aquatic lifeform (Shin Godzilla) and a naturally evolved plantanimal god (Anime Godzilla)

okay,then.

Xenotaris,
No,it goes like this:
Showa:Doofy giant Aquatic Creature
Heisei:Popular Godzillasaurus which has a son (Godzilla Jr.)
Tristar:A Mutated and hated Iguana
Monsterverse:Copy of Heisei Godzlla (If you don't get it then i'll tell you why)
Reiwa:Kamata-Kun (Shin Godzilla),mutated Piranha Plant (Anime)
"I hope,one day,i will go to the U.S.A..."
Ganimes V.8,December 10th 2019

Actually Monsterverse Godzilla shares more traits with the Showa Godzilla than Heisei with its design closely resembling early millennium godzilla.

I meant he copied Burning Godzilla.
"I hope,one day,i will go to the U.S.A..."
Ganimes V.8,December 10th 2019


Honestly, I agree with you Xenotaris. It was ALMOST worthy of the Godzilla name. Zilla Junior was more worthy of it, because it was an anti-hero, a smart, but animalistic creature, and incredibly durable, taking super weapons to kill him. It's why Godzilla was so horrible in the original, he couldn't be killed by conventional weaponry, bringing up everything with the oxygen destroyer (the fear of what came next). Honestly, I LOVE Zilla's design, but her movie... no. Not a Godzilla. This is coming from someone who would treat Shin Form 2 as an actual Godzilla if it was the only form for the whole movie. Zilla's movie, however, was awful if you treat her as Godzilla, in my opinion. It doesn't really follow the original theme, because A. It really downplayed the radiation deal. Maybe if they show the effects of her radiation on New York, it would be a good movie, enough to consider her a Godzilla. It would really give some added horror to Zilla, and make her a GODzilla. However, there is no side affect to her radiation, so a lot of the added horror is already gone. Can't be killed unless by a super weapon that may possibly bring about an even worse era of warfare? Nope. I mean, it wasn't necessary to have something like the oxygen destroyer. They can just have her get away and go into hibernation, or wreak havoc in the world, or do a poison or chemical thing like in Shin Godzilla. However, missiles? Missiles? 2 friggin missiles killed her... Not only did she not release radiation... not only did she not cause any irreversible damage to New York... she wasn't even all that hard to kill? Seriously? Though, to give some credit, the asexual reproduction thing was probably the "big danger," but all that did was provide excuses to create scenes "inspired by" (copies of) scenes from Jurassic Park. And even with that replacement of it, it still didn't really cause any real harm to New York, nothing that could have made you really fear for New York. Just to reiterate what would have happened if they made it so Zilla was constantly releasing radiation like in 1954, the damage to AT LEAST the areas she went through would be IRREVERSIBLE. Imagine what happened to Tokyo into 1954, but in New York, and worse because the creature was fast and could cover more ground, and it can burrow and make the radiation seep into the very earth beneath the city. New York would be effectively destroyed, many would slowly die from radiation poisoning, the survivors would be bankrupt and have to leave New York forever, one of the most populated and well known cities in America would be destroyed. If they went that route, they could have had Zilla destroy the Statue Of Liberty to foreshadow what will happen to New York and how America will react. They could have gone a step further and shown how this has affected the rest of America, and the rest of the world. I mean, it could have gotten to the point of, and maybe even worse than all the emotions we felt as a nation after 9/11 (not to disrespect what happened there at all). This time, there was no possible way we could defeat the creature, and we had no idea where it is. We would just have to live with the ever-looming threat of Godzilla for years and years, waiting for her to arise yet again... Perfect sequel material! Next time maybe put her in San Francisco, or Houston, or just anywhere in the world! Maybe have her have some offspring (maybe not 40,000, probably more like 2-10) in between and have them cause more havoc. Maybe we attack with experimental weapons and kill them, BUT THEN WE CREATE MORE KAIJU!!!! It would be like we dug our own grave more! And then the original Godzilla comes and kills them, basically being an anti-hero. I mean, it could have been the American version of Godzilla, but they messed it up horribly with one main fault. They downplayed the whole threat of radiation and nuclear warfare. The radiation itself was the scary thing, not the creature. It kept the origin similar, but it got wrong what made Godzilla great. The fact that even without the creature, a similar result can be reached by our own hands. It was a cautionary tale not of creating a giant monster, but of becoming the monsters ourselves and causing irreparable damage to others with nuclear power. But here the main threat was just impossibly big iguana, not the all to real ramifications of nuclear power. Seriously, that little bit would have saved them money on CGI, and made the movie MUCH better. Just make the creature release radiation. That's it. It'll be a horror of astronomical proportions with that little bit. Especially since that actually CAN happen in real life. It's what made the original Godzilla so great. The scary part wasn't what was imaginary. It was what was real.
Sorry if that sounded like a ramble, but that's basically why I don't consider Zilla a Godzilla. It's not her appearance, not her odd abilities or lack there of. It's the fact that A. the movie itself was pretty bad and B. it lacked the fundamental aspect of Godzilla. Hell, it didn't even say or do anything meaningful to anywhere the extent that most Godzilla movies do, like GMK or Shin Godzilla. I mean, the radiation was very much downplayed in GMK, and in Shin Godzilla it was an incredible threat until they realized in the end it had a very short half-life (Yay! people can go back in a couple years instead of thousands! Happy(er) ending!), but at least they had stuff of SOME importance to say and made it clear what they wanted to say. I mean, at least in the Monsterverse, despite possibly being pro-nuclear and mainly being action flicks, had environmental messages, and showed the devastation the radiation had on San Francisco and Vegas and the such. Especially in 2014 with the MUTOs. 1998... it failed that, and had they done it right, it would have saved them money on CGI, and it would have made it the definitive first American Godzilla movie. Hell, it would be one of my favorites if they had simply just shown the devastation radiation had on New York, and hopefully the effects of the whole disaster on the rest of America.
If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.

Perhaps if Godzilla 1998 didn't have Roland Emmerick as its director and maybe lets say Steven Spielberg it would have touched on those classic Godzilla themes

That was one hecc of a comment.
I do agree there, but I liked the movie the way it was, it was fine. I don't know if the disaster would effect ALL of America, though. Maybe just near NY.
I don't really know what I'm saying here oof
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