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G.H. (Gman)
Agree to disagree.
I think Mechagodzilla is a weapon made to fool the titans. My guess is the Mechagodzilla lures all the titans while posing as Godzilla, making Kong think Godzilla is behind all of this. And when the real Godzilla shows up...FIGHT
G. H. (Gman) I think I see your point. Thanks.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong has different directors, so no one was splitting any focus.
Your worries are a lot conjecture based on nothing. You're right KotM didn't do that well, but that had nothing to do with its reshoots. It will be the same with Godzilla vs. Kong--You're underestimating the fact that this stuff is, very, very common and even expected. In fact reshoot schedules are often made before regular shoots happen to make time--Because they know they're probably going to need to get them in.
Again, Godzilla vs. Kong may do poorly, but I doubt it will have anything to do with reshoots until reliable news surfaces that they are extensive. Right now it's just run-of-the-mill.
Avengers Endgame was run by one of the biggest corporations in the film industry, if not THE biggest, so it's not the best comparison to, say, Legendary Pictures.
KOTM had MORE time for the re shoots and still didn't do well. GVK has to do really well, but has less time than KOTM. Not to mention, MOST of the film was being shot while KOTM was being made, so the director would have had to split his focus between the films meaning their is probably going to be MORE shots needing to be redone, and that we might get acting or shots not as good as in KOTM. You see why I'm a little worried?
Exactly!
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"Hallowed Be Thy Name" Iron Maiden, The Number Of The Beast, 1982
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Breaking Free from High School Musical.
Godzilla: King of the Monsters had reshoots in April and May of 2018 and it released late May, 2019.
Avengers: Endgame had reshoots in September and October of 2018 and it released late April, 2019. Most of the effects work on Endgame didn't even start until November 2019.
Godzilla vs. Kong has plenty of time.
I hope they give him heisei Mechagodzillas theme as his main theme and for showa fans maybe take a page from the book of Godzilla final war and play the showa Mechagodzilla theme in the background subtly like how they subtly played king Ghidorahs original flying sound in Boston just before he arrived on the scene in KOTM.
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2. War/street fighter sick puppies
3. rebirthing and/or monster skillet
I'm just a little worried they aren't giving themselves enough time for the re shoots and everything. With KOTM, they got more time for the re-shoots and the movie still kinda under performed. And since GVK is the do-or-die movie of the Monsterverse now... just somewhat worried.
Godzilla to Kong"You take my life, but I'll take yours too! You'll fire your musket but I'll run you through! So when you're waiting for the next attack, You'd better stand there's no turning back!"
"The Trooper" Iron Maiden, Piece Of Mind,1983
For me, Mega godzilla will be MechaGodzilla artificial skin.
JurassicKaiju14,
I don't think that comparison is very apt to this case. Again, every, and I mean every, blockbuster goes through reshoots. (Remember Avengers: Endgame, the highest grossing film of all time? It too.)
Batman v. Superman was mangled by critics far worse than King of the Monsters, especially if you compare some individual reviews. And while I don't particularly care for the movie, the Godzilla fan base at large loves it. There have been movies that blew up the fan base far, far worse. Godzilla 2000, Godzilla: Final Wars and Shin Godzilla, to name a few... Most of what I see on facebook and twitter is how much fans enjoy the movie with the occasional, "critics are stupid" jab.
And unfortunately, the box office comparison doesn't work either, because while King of the Monsters likely lost money, Batman v. Superman's rumored breakeven point was $800M at most (WB stated that number was inflated though). It topped at $872M. So despite the fact it was a disappointment to fans and critics alike, it still made money.
I think the worries of Godzilla vs. Kong being, "the next Justice League" are bit over dramatic. Is it possible GvK won't be very good? Sure. Is it possible it will fail financially. Absolutely. Is likely it'll be bad? Yeah. But if any of that happens, I don't think it will have anything to do with the reshoots--Of which every film goes through.
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I would LOVE to hear these in it.
G. H. (Gman) Allow me to make a comparison here. KOTM is essentially the MonsterVerse's Batman v Superman. They both kind of had a similar history; both had a fair bit of hype behind them, and then when they came out, they were savaged by critics, lost money at the box office, and they split their respective fanbases down the middle like a sledgehammer against a rock. And we all know what ended up happening with Justice League in the fallout of all of that.
Suffice it to say, I'm concerned that GvK will wind up as another Justice League, if you get what I mean. I hope this extra time will allow them to patch up at least some of the things that were wrong with KOTM, but given Warner Bros.' past records with cinematic universes, I can't help but be a little concerned.
That said, I do appreciate how it seems like they're trying to think smaller with this one, and not have some epic MCU-length line-up planned that'll ultimately go nowhere if GvK fails. So at least they seem to have learned that much.
For the main event build up, Orion could be really good especially the first 4 minutes of the song- it's very dramatic and could fit very well. The main riff to Kashmir might fit after the fight as Godzilla slowly lumbers back to the ocean and slowly gets deeper and lets out the classic roar before submerging. The song vocals should be cut out though. I doubt many would want to hear "Ooooooh yeah yeah."
TheLazyFish,
Yes, but remember, when those reshoots happened King of the Monsters was suppose to open in March--So it initially had the same amount of time, yet the film was still finished by November. So I'm not too worried about it. And I think you guys should be less worried about it--This happened to King of the Monsters and most of you seem to like it.
JurassicKaiju14
I've mentally prepared myself for GVK getting cancelled all together. For a time, it seemed kinda likely to me...
VexParadine Is it just me, or do I see some bone-white in the spines for that figure's box art?
TheLazyFish True. But at any rate, I've long since mentally prepped myself for GvK to be the end of the MonsterVerse. I shall go into this movie with that mentality. Thus, if we do get a whole bunch more movies, I'll be pleasantly surprised, and if not, then we'll all have had a good run while it lasted.
Well, at least I will have.
JurassicKaiju14
True, but the same thing could be said about Endgame, and Marvel is still going strong. So if GVK does REALLY well, they might just keep making movies because if there is one thing for sure about Hollywood, that it will milk anything that's profitable until it's a shriveled up corpse with not so much as a drop of sweat left.
TheLazyFish "They need to excel with this one or the Monsterverse will stop producing movies. Heck, it might even stop anyways."
To be honest, I'm pretty sure that GvK was always meant to be the end of the MonsterVerse as it stands now. It's kind of obvious that everything after 2014 was meant to be a build-up to Godzilla vs. Kong. This is the climax of the MonsterVerse, the grand finale. It's all been building up to this. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this was just the end.
Love that song, but I'm not sure that would fit either of the creatures. Maybe if they were fighting Mechagodzilla though...
If Rodan gets a fight scene, Ready To Die by Andrew W.K.
For Godzilla's entrance, Spinosaurus or T-Rex from Jurassic Park Operation Genesis. Maybe Raptor from the same game could work too.
Also, Storm Forming, Storm, Tornado, Chase, Hunt 1, and Hunt 2 from the same game. What can I say? That game has really good music!
I'd love to see a new rendition of Prayer For Peace, hopefully an instrumental version similar to the one in Godzilla V.S. King Ghidorah. Imagine a more sinister version of it playing when Mechagodzilla makes his appearance... Glorious.
Speaking of MechaG, why not Godzilla Appears from Terror Of Mechagodzilla? Or the main theme from Godzilla V.S. Mechagodzilla?
Duel Of The Fates and Imperial March from Star Wars too... but of course that could never happen lol.
Red Cold River could work too.
Requiem For A Dream Full Song.
Fair enough, BUT the example you mentioned still got another year and then some with the reshoots. And it still performed poorly. Now there's even less time, and this movie has to do even better than the last. That's why I'm kinda worried. They need to excel with this one or the Monsterverse will stop producing movies. Heck, it might even stop anyways.
Iron Maiden "Running Free(LIVE)" Best Of The Beast, September 23, 1996 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpN6NaRJwcU
Crimson Flames from the Naruto Shippuden soundtrack. Do soundtracks count or does it need lyrics?
Hmmm.... I have some suggestions. Orion by Metallica, Unknown Soldier or Tourniquet both by Breaking Benjamin (Blow Me Away would also be good, but that song was already in Halo 2), or When A Demon Defiles A Witch by Whitechapel
I can probably think of more but those are some I thought of right now.
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TheLazyFish,
How do we know the reshoots have any effects footage in it? People seem to forget that King of the Monsters went through reshoots in April/May of 2018. However, the descriptions were for shots of more extras - people dressed as scientists, etc. It didn't sound like anything effects heavy.
Re-shoots are common with with almost every movie. They happened with King of the Monsters, they happened with Avengers: Endgame, it's no shock they're happening here. They usually occur when the director and editor realize a scene isn't working and/or could benefit from a few different shots/angles. So they go back and get those handful of shots to improve the pacing/editing of the scene.
This is the most likely thing that's happening--Unless the rumors of "massive reshoots" are true, but I feel are unlikely given the source.
