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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumConverting Toho Classic Monsters into realistic Legendary Pictures counterparts

@COOLGODZILLA1234: Orga coming right up!

Classic Toho Monster #6: Orga

Species: Gojira/Millennian hybrid

Height: 70 meters

Abilities: Huge claws; can fire beam from its shoulder cannon; extraordinary jumper; extremely fast healing factor; can pilot its UFO through telepathy and control cables that the UFO implants; able to absorb powers and appearances through consumption.

 

My Legendary Pictures Counterpart: [No Name Yet]

Species: Pelican eel, 2014 American Godzilla, Orangutan, modified Angler Fish, modified Electric Eel

Height: Same as 2014 American Godzilla

Abilities: Laser guided Lightning (shot from mouth); extremely strong (especially the long arms); mouth can open really wide; 2014 American Godzilla defensive abilities.

Reason for Species choices: The Pelican Eel can really open its mouth, to the same amount/degree as Orga. Orga was a hybrid of Gojira, so the realistic LP counterpart would be part 2014 American Godzilla. Orangutans are known to have long, strong arms so I choose them to represent this aspect of Orga. The modified Angler Fish/Electric Eel is to mimic a biological version of a Lightning Gun (http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/06/27/army-looks-to-strike-foes-with-lightning-weapon/ ). This is a laser guided lighting bolt, so a ANgler Fish lure could be modifed to be a bio-laser to guide the Electric Eel electricity (modified) to be a lightning beam!

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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumConverting Toho Classic Monsters into realistic Legendary Pictures counterparts

@DINOBOY22: 1 Baragon converted into a realistic version for Legendary Pictures coming right up! 

 

Classic Toho Monster #5: Baragon

Species: Subterranean Reptile

Length: 40 Meters

Height: 25 Meters

Abilities: Burrowing, extremely hot fire breath, extremely good jumper, very strong claws.

 

My Legendary Pictures Counterpart:[No Name Yet]

Species: Armadillo Girdled Lizard/Rhinoceros/Rabbit hybrid

Length: 50 Meters

Height: 25 Meters

Abilities: Burrowing, extremely hot fire breath, extremely good jumper, very strong claws.

Reason for animal choices: Baragon was a reptile, so it makes sense to start there. A good burrowing reptile plus armored is the Armadillo Girdled Lizard. Mix that with a Rabbit and you would get a reptile tht can burrow, have the same type of ears that Baragon has, and can jump very well. Finally mix that with the horn and strength of a Rhinoceros and this creature would be one very tough monster in a brawl. Science has explored the possibilities of an animal being able to breath fire so this can be realistically added. Maybe something internal to cranck up the temp to make it dangerous.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

You know that Bagan was first created for the Return of Godzilla/Godzilla 1985 script? He didn't look anything like the fan art that's been posted here. In The Return of Godzilla he was a actually three monsters that combined into one. He looked goofy as hell, but he was at least more interesting than the one in Super Godzilla:

Yup, that's the original Bagan. He was scrapped for The Return of Godzilla, a solo Mothra movie that was going be called Mothra vs. Bagan and finally Godzilla vs. Destroyah. Three chances. All failed.

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GorosaurGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

For a while I thought that Bagan would be perfect for the movie because he blends the past of Godzilla while not getting bogged down in rules, history, and other things that were decided long before the director was born.  You could basically do anything with Bagan because.. he's never been used.  He's just a name.  The only thing that has remained consistent through his iterations (in scripts and games) is his size and having a horn.

 

I made the image below to try and illustrate how large this new Godzilla could be.  Dwarfing Bagan (or Biollante, KG, or Destoroyah) would really put this Godzilla in a league of his own.

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True American GodzillaGodzilla 2014 ForumConverting Toho Classic Monsters into realistic Legendary Pictures counterparts

@GOJIRA2K: Glad you like my stuff so far. I haven't tried drawing my monster concepts yet, but would be great to do so in the future. First I wanted the forum folk's opinion about my designs to review them and see if they had any critics to point out. 

 

Converting Biollante to a realistic LP counterpart, an interesting request. Let's see how I'm going to do this. *Some time later*... alright I think I have a good realistic counterpart to Biollante for you. What do you think?

 

Classic Toho Monster #4: Biollante

Species: Mutated Rose/Human/Gojira Hybrid

Height (final form): 120 Meters (393')

Abilities: In her final form, she could walk around; had a Mosasaurus-like head; acidic sap (which can be used as a spray from the mouth); snapping vines; and can break apart into a golden energy to go into the atmosphere to heal.

 

My Legendary Pictures Counterpart: [No Name Yet]

Species: Genetically created hybrid of the Firestick Cactus, a deep sea predatory worm; the growth genetics of redwoods; and a anaconda.

Length: 800 meters

Height: 40 Meters

Abilities and reason for choices: Now Biollante's convertion to energy I don't think I can realistically capture. After all I haven't heard of a real life animal changing to energy and back again. However, a plant-like monster I can do. Real Life plants don't move much, other than the "mouth" of the Venus Flytrap for example. However, we do have animals that have plant-like traits! Elysia chlorotica is a sea slug who's body is leaf shaped and (most of the time) draws energy from the same sources as plants. Scientists could, in theory, genetically create a monster that's part plant/part animal. Now for an acidic sap, in real life we have the Firestick Cactus who's sap are described as "corrosive, irritating, or toxic". This could be genetically modified to be even more corrosive. Origin story would be this monster was supposed to be a weapon of war. Sneeking the burrowing worm-like monster to a strategic location. Its top half resemble a bush or small plants, at least when the thing was human sized. Thanks to worms having a "vibration sensor", they could (again through genetics) be trained to go after unsuspecting enemy soldiers that approached the "plant". However, the growth genetics of a redwood was accidentally introduced instead of a much smaller tree resulting in a Kaiju-sized monster (over time of course). This monster can constrict, spray an acid sap, and even fool local inhabitants into thinking its top half is a valley/forest (when in stealth mode, food is brought down through 'secondary mouths' hidden along the back).

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

I agree with Gman Bagon is not going too be in the new movies He,s not Bagon is not going too be Godzilla,s uiltmate enemy 

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DeltadromeusGodzilla ForumGodzilla monster QaA

Okay, I actually answer that one. 

 

Godzilla: raaaaaaaaaaaaar! Rawg, raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooor!!!!!!!!

Me:hmm I thought so. He said if there was a female Godzilla, he would kill her, so I guess that means never,Megan through he had a son. Dont asks, the anatomy of a Kiaju is very complicated.

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ZodgillaGodzilla 2014 ForumGODZILLA VS. HEDORAH 2!!!!!!!!!

Legendary and Gareth Edwards wouldn't even THINK about something as silly as this! It has to be understood (at some point) that there will NO campy, Toho-licensed creatures in this reboot OR it's sequels (if any); box-office suicide, besides the fact that Legendary wouldn't even consider funding something like that...

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DinoSteve93Godzilla ForumGodzilla monster QaA

Hey Godzilla. When are you willing to marry?

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DeltadromeusGodzilla ForumGodzilla monster QaA

Okay then, lets see, Orga, why did you attack Godzilla?

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GodzillasaurusGodzilla 2014 ForumWill Godzilla,s Second Enemy be the Winged Muto?

We don't know yet. People on Tohokingdom have stated that the drawings of the insect-like creature are slightly inaccurate, as they are not 100% spot on. The thing in the trailer apprently had a wide membrane on its back, hinting at wings. So the winged muto is possibly the thing in this year's trailer.

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mecha mothraGodzilla Fan Works ForumYour Godzilla movie

mine would have have to be godzilla 2000

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mecha mothraGodzilla Fan Works ForumYour Godzilla movie

mine would be plants vs godzilla hahahahahahahaha

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mecha mothraGodzilla 2014 ForumDoes anyone have any idea how tall Godzilla will be?

I think that he might be in between 1000 feet or 3000 feet?

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

See? There it is again. Someone else calling Bagan, "Godzilla's greatest enemy." Why? Because he was the final boss in a video game? Because he's big, ugly and has lots of lasers? He's never been in a Godzilla movie so how is he possibly Godzilla's greatest enemy?

Godzilla's taken on King Ghidorah, Mothra and Mecha-Godzilla so often that perhaps one of them is his "greatest enemy", but Bagan? That makes no sense. He's one of Godzilla's most forgettable enemies.

And I'm not sure who you're pointing out that claimed Bagan had no origin. Yes he has an origin and yes I knew of it. Making claims about people that aren't true is quite unwise even on forums. Regardless, while the concept is kind of cool it lacks any originality. The Godzilla series has already dealt with combining Godzilla cells with other lifeforms in Godzilla vs. Biollante. It was nailed pretty thoroughly in the movie, so what? We're going to do it again now? Furthermore, the entire idea just wouldn't work in the more grounded universe that Gareth Edwards is going for. It just sounds too far out there for the Legendary Godzilla movies-- hence why his origin would have be altered.

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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

@KENG2K Lol I don't care about his origin story because I don't like him-like at all. Disliking one monster among an entire library of Godzilla monsters makes someone a shameful Godzilla fan? Are you kidding me? The one who goes and labels people as non-fans like you are the ones that should be ashamed. Gabara is the most shitty Godzilla monster ever, but cuz I choose not to research everything about him I don't deserve the title Godzilla fan? Beautiful logic. That's like calling someone a bad Star Wars fan for not knowing every pointless character in the background scenes, it's stupid.

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Akio123Godzilla 2014 ForumHow would you want Godzilla (2014) to start?

In my personal opinion. I think it'd be best if it starts off completely opposite to Pacific Rim. If its suspensful, dark and quite realistic regarding Godzilla. A paced start would work best. I mean, I want to see how the world would react to such a thing. A titan sized animal who suddenly appreared would be scary. If its executed right, a slow artsitic start would benefit and not hurt the movie. Im sick of all these, "OK HERES THE ACTION BOOM!" start offs of movies. I want story telling. You can still be epic while having a solid story. Also hearing about some scenes taking place in 54 is a very interesting concept. Im wondering how that will tie in. If we are PROPERLY introduced to the monster, it'll be more spectacular. We could be frightened and love him at the same time. Of course we love Godzilla anyways because we're fans, but thats different. Pacific Rim was a different movie. It's straight forward action was great and all, but I literally did NOT care about any of the characters, or even the monsters really because the origin was forced on in 3 minutes. And how in the world do people "Move on" after a 300 foot monster that took multiple days to kill and decimated cities? lol Like it wasn't a big deal. But that's just me. 

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

Well i dont think Bagon should be in a Godzilla movie

1 HE,S NOT A CLASSIC GODZILLA MONSTER!

2 he,s just a monster from a game

3 Destroyah looks way more better then Bagon why will Destroyah,s horn is more better and Has a great roar

4 You are taking Bagon too seriuslly and also Bagon will never be in a Godzilla movie becuase Edwards wants new monsters and also make The Classic Godzilla and he wants the Godzilla fans too enjoy them

and 5 Bagon does not have a origin 

and also he,s not going too become Godzilla,s Most toughest enemy

and also im A true G fan 

it doesn,t matter if Bagon is not going too be in the New Godzilla movies the point is Godzilla is back he,s going too start a new series of movies he,s going too fight new and his older enemy,s so you guys should be happy about the squeal not be mad about this monster from a game being in the new movies.

and Ken fuck off we are true Godzilla fans im a true Godzilla fan and also i think you still want too see the trailer well ken how about you calm down and wait for a trailer and also Bagon is not going too be in the new movies for the Godzilla series you dont derserve too call your self a G FAN!

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KenG2KGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

Wow, guys lighten up... you should all be ashamed to call yourselves Godzilla fans!  I read through all of the bickering, arguing, and complaining and not one of you "fanboys"know the origin of Bagan! Some of you even said he had no origin! Pathetic! In the game it was explained that he was created by fusing cells from Godzilla himself and the legendary King Ghidorah.  The, imho, is a badass origin.  And he is Godzilla's greatest enemy.  No, i do not want to ever see Super Godzilla hit the screen... the concept is cheesy.  I am definitely in favor of Bagan getting a theatrical appearance!

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumElizabeth Olsen talks her role in Godzilla

I hope taylor and bryan dont die in the movie but the enemy in the movie are the monsters so thats reason why taylor is trying too kill Godzilla and the muto plus the unknown second monster

 

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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumElizabeth Olsen talks her role in Godzilla

Aaron Tayler Johnson's character is the character we follow as Elizabeth explains in this article. So his character could be considered the hero of the tale.

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumElizabeth Olsen talks her role in Godzilla

Bryan cant die im starting too begining that he would be the hero of the movie

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumWill Godzilla,s Second Enemy be the Winged Muto?

But that would mean there will be 3 monsters in the movie Edward said that there would be 2 so i think it might be the one from the teaser or the winged muto 

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Gojira2KGodzilla 2014 ForumElizabeth Olsen talks her role in Godzilla

I don't know. Bryan could die saving one of them, but Taylor and Olsen will live. Bryan dieing would make a good twist.

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Gojira2KGodzilla 2014 ForumWill Godzilla,s Second Enemy be the Winged Muto?

I think it will be the monster from the leaked trailer. I think the Mutos will be secondary monsters.

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Gojira2KGodzilla 2014 ForumConverting Toho Classic Monsters into realistic Legendary Pictures counterparts

This is great. I wish you would do this with Biollante. Post the monster designs when your finished with them. Can't for them.

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

It,s not about making powerful monsters just too beat Godzilla the squeal is about the return of Godzilla and Edwards wants too make squeals of the classic monsters we want too gigan in another movie again or king ghirdorah Not a game monster that has super powers and so strong thats not the point of the new series the point is that Edwards wants too start a new series so that the Fans would be happy. and i tell you Bagon is never going too be in a movie. we want too see the classic monsters again including destroyah. 

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

People are hardly scared of a new creation. That's why everyone in the Godzilla fandom are excited to see the Mutos. Bagan, however, is not new nor does it stand for anything we haven't seen before. In a sense, Bagan represents everything that was wrong with the Heisei monsters: Overdesigned, overly large, overly powered monsters with lots and lots of laser beams. If going forward is part of the argument then Bagan needs to be left behind as a whole. We have enough large, over-powered, laser spewing behmoths like him. (SpaceGodzilla, Destroyah, Heisei MechaGodzilla)

Now I agree that any monster can be written to be interesting and Bagan is no exception. (That said, King Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan could be re-written to be more interesting as well.) But with Bagan he would need a bordline unrecognizable redesign, a brand new origin and something to tone down is over-the-top powers. We might as well just make up a whole new monster at that point.

The thing is Bagan has a cult following that has proved to be the most annoying of the Godzilla fandom. They're always claiming Bagan is the strongest or a movie should be made out of him and I've yet to understand why? Or at least be given a decent reason. "He's powerful." isn't enough. His design is too much for the tokusatsu genre and yet, in another way, extremely generic. He's just a boring, typical fanfiction-esque creation that was slopped up to be a final boss in a video game. Nothing more. Like the monsters you listed, Bagan had his time, it was in a video game and it's over.

Regardless, I'm fairly positive it will be a moot point. I don't see Legendary and Edwards making much more than two sequels if the new movie is a success and if Toho monsters are used Legendary will likely not even consider Bagan. There are too many better known and more interesting monsters to choose from-- Thank God...

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Primal TransitionGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

Bagan can be made into a better monster if creators are willing to make it into something and willing to make it something compatible for a movie. You can loose my respect if you want but the fact that this monster has never been used doesn't make it a horrible creation. Look at the that monster from Godzilla's Revenge! Looks worse than Bagan. I know alot of people look down on the monster but given the right treatment then the monster would be a good powerful beast.

Sure Bagan is from a video game but sure are all of the other monsters, Biollante, ghidorah, and others. People just have to give it a chance and let somebody who knows what they are doing make the monster into what it needs to be. Toho is Toho, and well Legendary is legendary, And since Legendary has revised Godzilla, i think they can do the same for an enemy that has never been used.

I think people are just scared of something new and the fact that the idea of this monster has ben scrapped in the past.

And I think Destroyah is done for, I do not want to see the same monsters over and over and over again, i want to see something that hasn't been used before. And thats why i think Bagan is a choice of mine. Just because Bagan may not be a new new new monster doesn't mean it cant be redone and made into something spectacular.

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xxsaberblackcrowGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

Bagon is just a Monster from a Game Why do you have too take it serieslly Bagon is not going too be in the Movie so At least there going too make new monsters for the new series you should be happy about that Primal Legendary is Never going too put Bagon in a movie and also destroyah looks way more cooler and more scaryer then bagon. Bagon is just a horned monster with super powers And also Godzilla could take out Bagon with his Red atomic breath Or his rage mode so yea Bagon is stuiped. destroyah is awesome

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InstinctiveGiganGodzilla 2014 ForumShould Bagan be in a Godzilla sequel? Or in the last Legendary Godzilla film?

1) You want new monsters? You'll be glad to hear there are going to be brand new ones in Godzilla 2014.

2) Bagan (in my opinion) is a crap monster. His design is too Power Rangers, meaning that it looks horrible. The guy looks like he's ready to give some crappy monologue in a high-pitched voice. And he brings nothing new to the table, there's a reason Toho hasn't put him in any movies.

3) Super Godzilla is a videogame, remember that. Meaning the idea of a "Super Godzilla" doesn't exist in the movies or even the comics. And him being the end boss proves nothing about his power, it just means they ran out of good ideas for a final boss so they were like "screw it" and finally used Bagan in something.

4) Destroyah IS better designed and practically DOES have the same shtick going for him. If it was a fan vote to have either Bagan or Destroyah in Legendary's movie franchise, garuntee it would be Destroyah. If it was Bagan, I'd lose like 90% of respect for Godzilla fans.

Bagan is a cool Easter egg for Godzilla movie history, that's it. But he should never get his own movie, nor should go anywhere near this new franchise. Thought I give credit to Matt Frank, he makes him look badass (but that's unfair since Matt Frank's art makes everything badass).

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