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you should look it up, it was an interesting idea,but it ended up being too expensive, i remember finding the script online a long tome ago, ill see if i can find some art related to the design or any other kind of information about it
I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. In 1994, Godzilla vs. Destoroyah came out in Japan. If you mean to say the scrapped idea of Godzilla fighting Ghost Godzilla, it was a decision made by Toho because his last few movies had already seen him face duplicates of himself such as Spacegodzilla and Mechagodzilla.
But as far as I can tell, and I could be wrong since it's not a subject I've delved into very heavily, there was never an American Godzilla movie planned or even conceptualized in America in 1994. Again, I could be wrong so feel free to correct me if I am. If you have a site where you found the information I'd love to read it. Anything new I can learn about the G's history, realized or no, the better equipped I am to participate properly in discussions like these.
you know, as long as godzilla does well enough this time around to get more people to take it serioisly, and get a sequel, then godzillas future will be bright. so in my opinion, this movie doees not have to be great per say, just good enough to start a new franchise that im sure would producee "great" movies. if that happens, ill be totally happy
Years ago, I had been following the production of Monsters and saw it long before Edwards was even considered for the director of Godzilla.
What drew me to following the movie and actively seeking it out was Edwards passion for the genre and his ability to make his own entry work on a minimal budget and staff. Edwards wrote, directed, shot and did the special effects for the film while also finding the time to include his own production design. The on-set crew was much more than 7-10 people, including the cast, and much of it was shot without any lighting.
Technically, it's a miracle of an achievment. The fact that Edwards was able to pull off a movie like this with hardly any help and a budget of only half a million is very, very impressive.
Storywise, it's slow and ponderous, but it still works in its own way. At the core it's a love story between two broken people. They just happen to be wandering around in a world where giant monsters exist.
It's best not going into this movie expecting a full-on monster bash. It's about these two main characters surviving and carving out the inconsistancies in their lives. There are no military battles or monster fights. Everything is insinuated and the action happens off-screen.
It's not perfect, but it's not an objectable character film. I enjoy re-watching it.
i saw monsters, and liked it. appearantly the reason that it didn't show the monsters all that much is because gareth ended up rushing to make them at the end. with this movie however, he has a lot of people backing him, and tons of rescourses, so i wouldn't worry to much about that. and i think ZILLAHATER is on to something. Godzilla probably will have a similar feel to monsters, but on a much much larger scale. also better acting, effects, music, etc.
Hi there!
I hope not to come across as overly negative or like I'm trying to dampen spirits, but despite Gareth's response, I very much doubt that the new creatures will bear true enough resemblances to old Toho Kaiju.
When you design a monster, it's inevitable that there will be some resemblances to old ones that have come before. Take Godzilla himself for instance. He was inspired by the Beast From 20,000 Fathoms by Ray Harry Houssen (Sorry if I messed up his name, I'm sleepy). Godzilla himself shares a few basic structural and anatomical similarities to that creature. Most of them are small and subtle, but they're there.
When it comes to these new monsters, I am hoping that they are all new and totally original monsters not related in any way to Toho Kaiju. I love all the Toho monsters, but I am a firm believer that it's time for something new. Whatever comes though, as long as Godzilla is amazing, that's all that really matters in the end to me.
I could be wrong, but I do believe they got one pair of Godzilla's backwards. The Godzilla faces of Godzilla vs. Megalon/MechaGodzilla (1973) are supposed to come before the face of Godzilla from Terror of MechaGodzilla. But this art shows them backwards. The darker, angrier face of Terror of MechaGodzilla is first and the larger eyed, almost friendly Godzilla vs Megalon/MechaGodzilla is second.
Again, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. It's a minor mistake, and the artwork is still really cool so props go to the artist for taking the time to do this. Still, as one who suffers from OCD, such details do not easily excape my eyes. Lol.
That poster is beyond amazing!!
I can't wait for the next stretch of marketing to arrive. This simple poster is a good start, but Legendary and WB had better get a jump on things if they hope to really rake in the dough when the movie comes out.
I wish I had the skills to compete, so I shall watch and wait with great anticipation to see what everyone has to offer.
By the by, I'm new here and this is my first response post so I'll take this time to say HELLO!!!
I'd like this upcoming Trailer to be a narrative of Godzilla with a more clear. (But not totally revealing ) shot of him. and then one last one with a narrative of the MUTO . And then we get a nice silhouette shot of the MUTO at the end of that . I'd be happy.
I wouldnt worry too much about the marketing when ET was coming out it went the exact same way.
Its completely fake infact this was shown weeks ago.
but it would be a really cool box art though.
Challege: Completed, check it out Godzilla 2014 (Showa Style)
lol i couldve made something more believable, and all gfans online would know
Confirmed fake, and even if it's still pretty obvious.
I am hopeful that Godzilla will do really well at the box office but I can only imagine the uproar and hate that will get spewed if the movie makes less money than expected due to the marketing. In regard to the theory that some deal has been negotiated to avoid having Sony or some other studio compete against the Hobbit thus running Godzilla under the bus, I really don't buy it. Quite simply, there is no competition for the Hobbit because studios know they will get their butts kicked so why bother. It's like when the television networks do not bother to schedule anything of significance against the Super Bowl knowing that it will get trounced.
exactly my point you saw my link right ?
My personal prediction is that, if this movie is succesful, it will make at least $500 Million.
If it "fails" to deliver at the box office, I think it will get a minimum of $400 Million, I personally don't think this is going to get less than that.
If it becomes really succesful I can see it getting at least over $700 Million, but given that Spider-Man and the X-Men will still get a considerably large share of the box office I personally don't see it getting over $800 Million, though I can see it getting more than that if the film turns to be just so objectively fu***ng good that it attracts too much people and the King ends up crushing those Marvel dudes will a full charge of his atomic breath!
Go! Go! Go! Godzilla! Go! >:D
@CATZILLA I live in the State of Mexico, very close to Mexico City, and yeah, most people think that Zilla is Godzilla. Unfortunately the very few who actually know the real japanese Godzilla, either think that the japanese Godzilla is a rip off, or don't even take him seriously and they actually admit to prefer Emmerich's Zilla as a replace of the original Godzilla just because of the special effects.
I think he's just angry that someone always puts a city in his way when all he wanted was to go for stroll.
I just ordered my copy so I'll probably be watching it within the next two weeks. I'm so excited for this movie too! :)
I have. And i love IT. One of my favourites. I actually think that just when i saw it, it kicked Cloverfield, WOTD(05) and Batman (89) out of the way. Monsters just felt nice.
It wasnt spectacularily overblown, and didnt focus on saving the world, it focused on living it. There are people in this world that lives like the people did in Monsters. They just have to deal with it.
And i know Godzilla will be different from that, and im fine with that, but im glad Monsters was different. It knew it didnt need to be a blockbuster, it just chose to become what it needed to be; A movie that shows a true world horror.
Wait, thats also what Godzilla is about. I just contradicted myself. D*** it. Its just that Godzilla has a real-world disaster thats more destructive, so in the end Godzilla and Monsters is most-likely gonna be simmiliar in that way.
I'm planning to see it in all formats... 2D, 3D, 4D plus IMAX versions! :D
I'm going broke for Godzilla this May!!! xD
This will be the first 4D film I'll ever watch, if it gets released in 4D of course xD
I've seen Monsters, and I thought it was ok. I mean, I was VERY impressed about the quality of the film given the knowledge of its budget. But I mainly only watched AFTER hearing about Godzilla, so it's not like I went out of my way to see it. And it wasn't so good that I would recommend the film to my friends or buy it on DVD or anything. I like what the movie says about Edwards as a director of monster movies, and overall am glad he was selected to handle Godzillla; but the movie is just ok.
As far as what Monsters says about the tone or plot 2014, I think everything Monstes says was already confirmed for me in the trailer and interviews, so Monsters didn't contribute anything new to my understanding. But it does add additional affirmation to the same things we have been hearing, which is a good thing.
Monsters definitely suggests a bleak tone, a lot of political commentary/allegory, and a strong character focus. Monsters also reveals Gareth Edward's preferences for plots where monsters ALREADY exist, and how people react to them, rather than a film where the monsters are getting introduced for the first time, which is part of where the 1954 scenes will probably tie in.
As far as the look of the Muto's, I'm not sure if Monsters can or should be used as a reliable guide. Edwards was heavily limited by his budget. He had to be thinking about money when doing creature design, and had to deliberately create 'cheap' monsters that would be cost effective to render. Plus he did the creature designs himself.
This movie, Edwards doesn't have to let the budget limit the monster design, and he's got a team of designers and stuff working for him so he probably will not have as much hands on influence for the design. So I don't think the Muto's will look anything like what we saw in Monsters. If there are any similarities it will probably be more of a coincidence than anything else.
That's my take in a nutshell. Basically Monsters reconfirms and adds additional evidence to most of the things we already know.
EVERYTHING! The way he walks, the way he roars, the way he fights, how he care for his offspring, his Atomic Breath. The absolute fact that he is the King of the Monsters. And that he is a role-model. Yes, that's right, Godzilla is my role model.
I've seen it. It was...decent. I wish we could have seen the creatures more. But I have no doubts Godzilla 2014 will be WAY more than...decent. Also what does "gleen" mean?
@CHRIS PICARD
I'm sorry for my English.(I am a Chinese)
My friend has posted a photo of the new godzilla(2014) toy.He photographed it in a toyshop in Yide Road,Guangzhou ,China.
This godzilla toy have over 23cm tall,only 4 points of articulation.just for kids...

I was thinking about doing this earlier haha will participate :D
@Madison again:
It's called hyperbole, it's often used to help make a point. Alright, how about a hero who comes from a destroyed alien world and fights crime but has no powers, and an ill-tempered but normal size gorilla? Are those close enough to Superman and King Kong to really be considered incarnations of their respective characters? Because that's pretty much how close Zilla is to Godzilla. And I don't see what my comment, or even this whole thread, has to do with Godzilla 2014.
1. I'm sorry, I wanted to say that he could be harmed by some fictional weapons in a few films, but I couldn't figure out how to work it into a sentence, so I left it out of my original comment. However, Toho Godzilla is, at the very least, immune to ordinary conventional weapons (by which I mean artillery missiles, and bombs). While the missiles in G2000 were, I think, technically conventional weapons, they were not just ordinary or super-powerful missiles, they were more like giant, rocket-propelled arrows made from some very strong metal (hence the name, Full Metal Missiles), and were purely piercing weapons which were capable of passing through three huge concrete slabs without visibly slowing down. Even then, IIRC, I think the missiles still shattered on impact, despite not actually being explosive, simply from hitting such a tough object at high speed. And even a crapton of Full Metal Missiles hitting him wouldn't kill him, since he almost instantly healed the minuscule damge they caused anyways. However, simply being immune to run-of-the-mill tanks, missiles, and bombs is just Godzilla at his absolute weakest (e.g. in the later Showa films); most incarnations are much more durable than that. In several incarnations (and, in my opinion, the way he should always be), he is simply completely unstoppable by all of mankind's weapons, most notably in the original. If you don't believe me, consider that, in this documentary, at 3:35, Akira Ifukube says "Godzilla is undefeated by modern technology [which, in the context of what he's saying before that, includes nuclear weapons]. It doesn't affect him, not even electricity or missiles. He is stronger than the weapons that brought Japan to it's knees [A-bombs]." And, if even that's not good enough for you, in the film itself, when Dr. Yamane is asked if there's any way to stop Godzilla, he says "Impossible! Godzilla was baptized in the fire of the H-bomb. What could kill it now?" But, since not all incarnations are so unstoppable, I guess a better description of the bare minimum of what a Godzilla needs would be "outstanding durability at least high enough to prevent him from being seriously harmed by conventional weapons." Zilla still doesn't fulfill that requirement.
2. Well, yes, Godzilla doesn't really have to be a dinosaur, but he has been a dinosaur in every Godzilla film up to this point, or at least all the ones where they actually specify what he is. IIRC, GMK Godzilla is the original Godzilla, who was a semi-aquatic dinosaur (or at least an intermediate organism decsended from dinosaurs); the whole vengeful spirits thing is just how he was resurrected. Him being something other than a dinosaur is acceptable, but an iguana is just so silly and unthreatening. I mean, couldn't they have at least gone with a crocodile or a Komodo dragon?
3. I acknowledged Zilla's breath weapon in my comment, I just meant that it's not an acceptablt alternative. I don't know why I'm even arguing that, since you seem to agree with me about it.
Oh, yes, I'm not saying that his design strays too far to be considered Godzilla even if I don't think it's a good Godzilla design. It's the characteristics that are more than skin deep that he is lacking; that's why I could maybe consider Junior (from the animated series) to truly be an incarnation of Godzilla in his own right, though I'm still undecided on that because of how inconsistent the show was about whether conventional weapons could bring him down.
Alright, so, there's no "constructive purpose" of me stating my opinion... what constructive purpose is there to you stating yours?
Once again, this discussion has nothing to do with Godzilla 2014. And I quite frankly don't give a flying [frick] about the general public's view of us, and I somehow doubt they read enough discussions on Godzilla forums to know about these arguments anyways.
It's pretty hypocritical to say that I shouldn't make a big deal out of it when you were the one who first brought up the topic even though this thread has nothing to do with it (yes, I know Kaijusrock technically mentioned it first, but I doubt he was trying to make a big deal out of it, and probably didn't think that anyone was going to argue about it), and then responded to my long, rambling comment with a much longer, more rambling comment.
And finally, regardless of what you may believe, Zilla and Godzilla are legally two separate characters. Although GINO may still be called "GODZILLA," that is because the title of a movie can't be changed, and Emmerich never set out to really make an American Godzilla in the first place anyway, he just made his own monster movie with Godzilla's name slapped on to attract more people to see it (he has even stated that he hates Godzilla and everything about it).
Yea, this was the one Godzilla movie I needed to complete my collection until a couple months ago. I was searching for it for forever until I finally gave up and bought a bootleg. Now I own all 28 movies!
Yeh Godzilla isnt exactly going to discriminate hahaha
Got to admit the sound of China's censorship customs seem really silly
I am planning on seeing the movie in 2-D first, then I'll see it in 3-D.
China's got it's beefs w/ America too (admittedly less so than with Japan)...and China is really big into media censorship. They are kinda like North Korea in that way. There is a reason they let ONLY 34 foreign films be played in the country a year.
So if the American military is presented in a positive light, or if a Japanese scientist (Serizawa) saves the day....it's a sad truth that those are things the Chinese would censor a movie over.
The ONLY reason China played Gravity for example was because Sandra Bullock took safety in a Chinese Space Station.
The Chinese government also liked Gravity because everyone's stations got indiscriminantly destroyed, the movie didn't play favorites....so that is a plus in the Godzilla column....Godzilla should be stomping everyone :-)
From what has been kind of revealed doesnt Japan or at least a a place in it, get trashed by Godzilla (or muto, or whatever)? Maybe that might be a bonus for China if they got issues with Japan.
Plus this is entertainment media rather than political so I cant see why China wont buy into this, plus its technically an American film.
And oh yeh this movie in Imax 3D (will be seeing it in this format for sure) how can China not buy into this :)
I sence a pattern every poster we find we see more of godzilla. the first poster we get we get the outline of godzilla. the second poster we get we get godzilla tail. the third poster we get we get the dorsal fins. the fifth poster (brazilian) we get is head and neck. the sixth we get a 60% view of his back. hmm...........
@GodzillaFan1995 My comment had absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Toho "liked" Zilla whatsoever (and a company can't like or dislike anything anyways, since it's, you know, not a person). And they renamed him because he is quite simply not Godzilla, it had nothing to do with whether it was a good monster design or not.
Godzilla 1998 is not as different from TOHO's monster as the hypothetically exaggerated examples that you bring up. And even if you're hell bent on believing that those are similar examples, it's still not a constructive attitude to put forward when looking at Godzilla 2014.
1. TOHO's Godzilla is NOT IMMUNE to conventional weapons. Godzilla's durability in the TOHO movies varies from film to film. I know there isn't a film where conventional weapons kill him, it always winds up being a monster or super weapon that kills him, but they never claim that conventional weapons are physically INCAPABLE of killing him....at best they imply that it would take a crap ton of work or ammunition to kill him. But in several movies Godzilla and other monsters are wounded/harmed/deterred by fairly regular weapons, such as Godzilla 2000 for example. So having Godzilla be killed by conventional weapons in 1998 doesn't actually violate canon.
Granted, I do think Godzilla was presented as way too fragile in the 1998 movie. I would definitely have preferred a more durable Godzilla.
2. Godzilla is NOT ALWAYS a dinosaur. Even in the TOHO universe, different films give different explanations for Godzilla's origins. I know none of them claim that he came from a modern reptile, but his origins are allowed to vary and stray off the dinosaur path. GMK is a great example. And I imagine Godzilla 2014 will pick an alternative to the dinosaur route as well, given that it's kinda absurd if you actually think about it. So again, Godzilla 1998's origin story doesn't violate canon, because there is no universally consistent canon for Godzilla's origins, even in the TOHO films.
3. This one is perhaps the one that frustrates me the most, as Toho DOES consistently give Godzilla an atomic breath weapon. It still is debatable, since Godzilla 1998 does use some type of breath attack in the movie. I agree that whatever it was, it was not an adequate substitute for Godzilla's regular atomic breath.....but it is there!
Basically, besides the upgraded sleek reptilian design they gave Godzilla in the 1998 film, the character isn't actually all that different from TOHO's Godzilla. I'm not saying I LIKED every decision or difference they made with the represenation....but I don't feel like any of the differences or depictions are unreasonable. They all fall within the realm of creative liscense in my opinion.
And even if you're hell bent on treating them like separate characters.....there is NO CONSTRUCTIVE purpose served in getting hung about it. You don't HAVE to pretend you think they're the same. You don't have to do anything.
But the smarter choice is to let it go. The 'Neckbeard' line is not meant to describe you or the Godzilla community at large. It is meant to represent the general public's view of us when we get hung up on trifles. It is in our interest as a community, and it is in the interest of the success of the 2014 movie to have the general public on our side. They won't be on our side if we come across like the comic book vigilantes who hated Samuel L. Jackson's 'Nick Fury' because he was black.
Again, you can do what you like, but the more constructive choice is not make a big deal out of it.
And as a side note, AS A GODZILLA FAN, I truly believe Zilla is Godzilla, I liked the 1998 movie, and I think the amount of rage and hate against the movie is unjustified and unwarranted in my opinion.
i'm pretty sure toho was fine with zilla, even in the bbc godzilla documentary has toho members stating it was interesting and apperantly the desginer of zilla said that they showed toho the desgins and they were fine with it, the only reason they probably changed the name and claimed they hated it was becuase both the japanese audince and some of the godzilla actors hated it, if the japanese liked it, or liked it more than the fans outside of japan they probably would've kept the name to godzilla.


















