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My personal favorites (in order of oldest to newest):

1954 "ShodaiGoji": The original suit that started it all, without it the other designs wouldn't exist. This Godzilla probably has my favorite designs for his dorsal plates, and it's easy to see why they eventually integrated them into the MonsterVerse design. There are shots in the original 1954 film where this design looks legitimately scary and really gives off the enraged radioactive monster vibe that the film was going for.

1964 "MosuGoji": To me, this is the definitive Showa Godzilla design. It managed to look both fierce and intimidating (without looking too evil) as well as looking a bit more benevolent (without looking too friendly or goofy). It was one of the first Godzilla designs that I saw when I was younger and still remains one of my personal favorites.

1984 "84Goji": My biggest issue with the late Showa Godzilla designs is that they look a little too friendly and goofy (especially in the 70s, where he looked like a plush toy), thankfully the 1984 brought back the more fearsome aspect of Godzilla. In some ways I actually like this design a bit more than the later Heisei design (which is saying a lot because I love the Heisei design). The only nitpick I have with it, is that the eyes are a bit too large and can look a little goofy in some shots, but other than that the design looks amazing. This is easily one of the first designs I think of when I think of classic Godzilla.

1995 "DesuGoji": The Heisei series had a pretty cool design for Godzilla, but his appearance in Godzilla vs Destoroyah managed to make it even cooler, or hotter in this case (bad joke, I know). The glowing patches of orange, the piercing red eyes and the fact that smoke is constantly erupting from him, makes him look super intimidating and badass. They state in the film that Godzilla's meltdown could potentially threaten the entire planet, and this design really gives off that impression.

MonsterVerse "LegendaryGoji": I think the biggest question we all had during the production of Godzilla (2014) was "what will Godzilla look like?", especially considering how the previous American attempt at the character was portrayed. In my personal opinion, the MonsterVerse design was a near perfect reinterpretation of Godzilla's classic design. It feels like they took features from the past Godzilla designs and blended them together into something that was new, yet still instantly recognizable. I remember my first reactions to seeing this design back when it was leaked in early 2014 were "That's Godzilla!" and "They Finally Got It Right!".

SasquaDash

This is just me, but I always consider MV Mekagoji as Ghidorah and when people saying Ghidorah could come back, I say “Three Ghidorahs?” And nobody knows what I’m talking about

sonictiger

I see. Interesting how a Godzilla vs Hedorah short film for an anniversary becomes monsterverse

DarkoRaptor

Actually one of the films listed is a Tokusatsu film, Brush of God specifically if you are interested.

But Toho moved away from making Godzilla in suits… but it would be nice to see it come back.

Hmmm….

1. Gyuragoji

2. Doughegoji

3. ShinGoji

4. Anigoji

5. Sokogehsigoji

mine is the Godzilla 2001 gmk because I like his amphibious gills, his evil smile and his pure white eyes 

cool

HinikunaGoji

I think at the very least we might see Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah make more appearances in the MonsterVerse, since they already have established roles in the series.

BIG FIRE BREATHING MONSTER THAT CAN KILL KONG

I wonder if they will make any more old fashioned Godzilla films with the rubber Godzilla suits anymore? 

SasquaDash

I just don’t think it’s likely

HinikunaGoji

G. H. (Gman)

Valid point, though it doesn't necessarily mean that some other Toho kaiju can't make appearances in the future, or that Mothra, Rodan and Ghidorah won't return either.

I think this could possibly mean Godzilla's MonsterVerse future could be mostly TV, with at least one or two more movies.  I have a feeling Toho has got something up their sleeve...

SasquaDash

Thats my point, American audiences don’t care about Toho kaiju. They didn’t detract from the audiences they just didn’t contribute at all. If they had had some allure, then it might have stood some chance against those films

"Its underperformance had nothing to do with it having the other Toho kaiju in it."

It certainly didn't foster a reason for the GA to see it either though--which would largely be the intent for spending money on them in the first place.

King of the Monsters was also released around the same time as Avengers: Endgame, which made over 2.7 billion, and the Aladdin remake, which made over 1 billion. Both of these films over shadowed Godzilla, which was one of the reasons why it underperformed. Its underperformance had nothing to do with it having the other Toho kaiju in it.

as much as id love to see the other Toho monsters in the Monsterverse i dont think there needed per se at least most of them  we have Methuselah for Anguirus,  Scylla for Kumonga, Tiamat for Manda, and im sure some of the other Titans fill similar slots for the other Toho monsters only Toho monsters i can see coming over new would be Biolante and Destroyah   Gigan possibly slim but possible.    Now when dealing with an existing property with a Huge fanbase   the mistake many studios make is  ignoring the existing fans and worrying about the non fans.  well see nothing can kill a Movie/show faster than Pissing off the existing fan base. you have to have some kind of balance.  I think KOTM "failure" wasnt because of Rodan, Mothra, Ghidorah. not drawing in people I think KOTM not doing well was a fluke. there was no rhyme of reason for it. personally i liked it  i wish Rodan and Mothra had had a bit for screen time and had done more and i think the lack of there appearance in GvsK had more to do with the complaints that KOTM had to many monsters.  theres really only 2 formulas for a Godzilla movie Godzilla vs humans or Godzilla vs other monsters both are "retreads" even if you say Godzilla vs aliens hes still fighting monsters so..  not much they can do New with Godzilla   

SasquaDash,
Depends on what the deal entails. We have previously been told that two Godzilla movies can not be in production at the same time. (Sans animated films.) Which makes it all the more interesting that Legendary's next Godzilla project is a television series instead of a film.

I highly doubt Toho would have agreed to anything that halts plans they currently have in motion. So if the same deal and the same loophole applies to both studios... well...

G. H. (Gman)

My overall question is what does the MonsterVerse continuing mean for Toho's future projects? It seems somewhat unlikely that Toho will make any live action movies during this time, so I'm wondering if they have plans to continue the Reiwa series after Singular Point. I assume they'll still produce Godzilla media during this, but I'm curious as to what that could potentially be.

A "World of Godzilla" would still be part of the Reiwa series--So I don't really understand what's being said here.

That said, the World of Godzilla thing has been mentioned once in passing and never heard of again. That was around three years ago and it was never an official announcement. I'm sure (and hopeful) Toho has something up their sleeves, but there's no guarantee of what it is.

HinikunaGoji,
Agreed. Several box office analysts point out that while Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah meant a lot to fans, they were indistinguishable from the 2014 enemy monsters to the general audience. It was simply sold as another "Godzilla fights other monsters" movie which feels like (and is) a retread.

I just don't see it as a gamble worth taking. After all, if Toho's most popular names in their repertoire didn't draw a crowd why would more obscure monsters like, say, Gigan?

It's much safer to go the Hanna Barbara/Marvel route and have Godzilla fight original creations.

SasquaDash

I can’t really see Toho kaiju becoming titans, even in movies, not only because they each are attached a cost, but as in previous times we see they don’t really attract crowds. So it would be easier to make up new ones then spend money on monsters that typically wouldn’t affect the box office.

Yeah, the cost of using other Toho monsters would probably be greater, if not maybe a little less than what they paid to use Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah, so they may not have them due to financial reasons but they might, idk have a small cameo or mention of some of them. But as for my chose to see what Toho monster in the show, I’d go with Baragon, Gigan and Megalon

G. H. (Gman)

Maybe not for the show, but it's possible that they could be used in the future. It seems unlikely that Legendary would renegotiate their contract with Toho and purchase the right to use Godzilla, to only use him in this one show. It's likely that we'll probably have some more movies and comics with Godzilla, so it's possible that some other Toho kaiju could show up in them.

HinikunaGoji,
Exactly. That financial gamble didn't pan out for King of the Monsters and, if rumors are true, led to Rodan being cut from GvK.

The TV show is already going to have an uphill battle of putting out similar visuals from episode to episode while trying to keep the costs down. Licensed monsters would just make that a lot tougher.

That said, I don't necessarily see it as an impossibility, just a supremely unlikely one. Best case scenario is it's mostly original monsters and much, much fewer Toho kaiju.

The only films currently categorized in this era are Shin Godzilla and the GODZILLA anime trilogy.

I’m not sure it’s likely, each IP is worth money so..

I’m not sure they’d spend that much money just for fans

SasquaDash

Kamakura San is the best 

Xenotaris

Lol

Yeah, it feels likely.  Biollante, Anguirus, Varan, Gigan, Destroyah, Zilla, Jet Jaguar and Shin Goji should all show up.

I want Biollante, Varan, Destoroyah and Zilla

His original form, Destoroyah

I'd say the main (4th) form, but that seems a little too obvious, so I'm gonna go with the 2nd "Kamata-Kun" form because he looks like a googly-eyed armless frilled shark/moray eel/rubber chicken hybrid and is just too weird and goofy not to be loved.

The one on top.

Yes, it was.  And I want a trailer like that for this show.

sonictiger

It was very exciting seeing this new trailer come out back then.

Y E S

HinikunaGoji

If they eventually did a alternate dimension/multiverse plot point with Shin Godzilla (or possibly other Toho incarnations) showing up and meeting the MonsterVerse Godzilla, I would be all for it!

Also, it'd be amazing to have a teaser trailer like this: Godzilla 2014 Announcement Trailer - San Diego Comic-Con 2012

Yes, exactly!

As in the "Shin" content, but you had a good point by the merch sales.