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Maybe I''ll be in the minority with this, but I find this to be disappointing.
Gee, thanks for sticking that right in the title impossible to avoid. :D
Cause screw people trying to avoid spoilers, right?
Man my poor wallet lol
A true Dragon would empower it's thralls into angels monsters and Dragons. True omnipotence does not feed on the weak. Dragons makes the weak strong by association.
These are pretty neat, it's nice to see that the rest of the kaiju cast is getting more love in figure form than the MUTO did the last time around. I won't be getting any of these smaller figures just because my money is going toward the NECA line (pre-ordered Godzilla and Mothra today), but that bigger Godzilla from Jakks might be fun to throw in to the set.
Hey guys I seen the anime and I'm not down with that crappy Anime Ghidorah and am not part of that poser faith. I'm just a Dragon worshipper that's why I call Ghidorah a God. By the same token so is Godzilla. My apologies to Mothra for she is truly a monster queen demigod and knows the best way to deal with people. As for the true King Ghidorah, let's join Godzilla already. He is the king of kings. I'm a thrall of all Dragons so I hope they don't tear each other apart. Let's have some sympathy for Mothra as well and focus on the true enemy... Destroyah
I have a feeling that these will be available at Walmart
"Titanosaurus328"
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I just said my own opinion that it might be different from your opinion
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That is so cool How much will it cost and can you get it at walmart and such stores
Doesn’t really seem “fat” to me and never has I like the design.
Reza-D
It doesn’t matter what title you’re given by humans such as”king of the monsters”, it doesn’t mean you won’t face challenges what matters is you overcome them in the end . He didn’t fall of “easily”they took advantage of their numbers and tackled him down.
In a one on one confrontation neither entity could beat Godzilla on their own ultimately but when they worked as a group they gained the upper hand. I don’t know why you’re acting like Godzilla facing Ghidorah is somehow going to be a walk in the park for him which subsequently means the mutos shouldn’t have been able to knock him over. In fact I fully expect Godzilla to get his ass kicked hard the first time around. The female used her weight (keeping in mind she weighs nearly as much as he does) to knock him over. long story short he got body slammed by a creature close to his size. You underestimate how strong these individual Kaiju are.
the tanks and missiles didn't “effect” the mutos and when I say the monsters weren’t “affected” by them I mean they suffered no injuries whatsoever the weapons fire were only a nuisance similar to someone throwing a firecracker at an elephant or someone tossing pebbles at your face. They know they’re being shot at , it’s irritating and they don’t like it but it doesn’t mean they’re being injured just means it can sometimes pinch a little. the mutos were not harmed by any weapons the humans launched at them, Not missiles and not bullets you can literally see them being shot with them repeatedly with no damage whatsoever especially the female walking through Nevada.
Godzilla didn’t “escape” from the military firing at him out of fear , the tank rounds they launched were simply an annoyance that he wished to get past at the bridge. Hes a living being who can feel sensation he knows he’s being pelted with projectiles and it hurts in some areas, like being pinched or pricked by something sharp. he doesn’t like it but they simply don’t pose a significant threat of any kind. He avoids unnecessary conflict , his primary target is the mutos who are a direct threat to his species he has no reason to waste his time retaliating against tiny mammals shooting him when the task at hand takes far more precedent. The fact you’re somehow under the impression that the missiles and tanks did significant harm to Godzilla even when it’s been demonstrated that he’s tanked castle bravo at ground zero is a bit strange I'll admit that he did recoil in pain when the missiles struck his gills repetitively (as they're a more sensitive spot) but beyond that its just minor pain at best, not an "injury"
"Titanosaurus328"
Godzilla, who is supposed to defeat King Ghidorah, should not fall off easily, even against two mutos!
you said:
"The tanks, ships and other army weaponsfire that attacked Godzilla in the movie did nothing to him except cause irritation"
How can they affect mutos but do not affect Godzilla?! At the scene of the Godzilla conflict along the bridge, the tanks attack Goodzilla and he runs away. If the tanks does not affect him, why did he escape from the place?
More specifically, hyper advancement brings about monsters, and those monsters screw up the whole paradigm, thus "necessitating" a harvest by Ghidorah.
You know, it's kinda funny how, if Ghidorah had his way, Godzilla would've just been a particularly plump apple :P
ignorantGuy,
Japan has always been hyper-conscious of the nature vs. technology discussion. However, the idea that civilizations end up destroying themselves once a certain level of technology is reached is an extremely western philosophical/scientific take.
There's a theory known as The Great Filter theory which suggests - if it's ahead of us - we will hit a wall in which the evolutionary process fails to get beyond and the greatest likelihood is we destroy ourselves by our own devices. I don't know if the anime trilogy was hitting specifically on that, but it does establish instances of worlds and people that hit a wall and are ultimately destroyed.
G. H. (Gman) Well maybe this nature thing is more of a thing in Japan. I don't know if necessarily the thing that advanced technology leads to extinction, but the rather endless greed, hatred, etc. Maybe these are hints of Zen?
Hype is getting more and more real!
Reza-D
What the heck are you talking about? The tanks, ships and other army weaponsfire that attacked Godzilla in the movie did nothing to him except cause irritation. the mutos brought him down because there were two of them simultaneously ganging up on him. Being outnumbered is a disadvantage whether you’re Godzilla or not. I hardly consider that “poorly represented”
ignorantGuy,
You're not wrong. The anime trilogy really hamfists the idea that all intelligent civilizations end up destroying themselves once a certain level of technology is reached. (The Exif with King Ghidorah.)
In humanity's case, they inadvertently create their own monsters. So from that point of view, Godzilla was a sort of anti-body--Although it doesn't quite explain why he killed off all the other monsters too. (Adam hypothesized all monsters were brought on for the same reason in this film.)
Metphies said that the only reason Godzilla was a "god" was because of fear and hatred, which King Ghidorah fed off of. Haruo understood this, so it wasn't just the nano-metal he was getting rid of, he was ridding the Houta of hatred (something they didn't have a word for) before it manifested into King Ghidorah again--Just as Metphies had warned.
With Ghidorah still out there as an ever-present threat to existence, the door has been left open for Toho to return to this continuity should they ever decide they want to revisit and continue the story, maybe in the far flung future when the Houtua naturally advance into a more standard civilization.
Probably won't, but the possibility's there.
Sadly, Godzilla's creators showed him very poorly in the previous film
Godzilla has fallen a few times against motos and against the tanks and planes that attacked him, he was like a defenseless rat! which made me angry!
But in my opinion, the real Goodzilla (which we will see in Godzilla: King of the Monsters) is much more powerful than Kong.
Of course, I am also a Goodzilla fan :)
@G. H. (Gman) First just let me say I am not a Godzilla and watch this series from pure boredom.
As I read the ending is that in the 3rd movie it is revealed that the titular monster is nature's anti-body against the cancer that was humanity's reckless behavior and especially against nanometal.
Haruo and the others do integrate in the new peaceful life, but this won't last as long there are people who can start over the cycle of "progress" using nanometal. He seems to be the only one to realize this and decides to provide a future to his "children". That's why he uses Godzilla to destroy the last pieces of nano-metal. Ok, in the subtext you could argue that he is too nostalgic for the old world or maybe he only truly loved that infected girl (bit of a cliche, but that's it) to led her be disintegrated alone.
Shin Gojira (2016) good for new Godzilla fans but also keeping that old style of Godzilla.
Godzilla just doesn't feel like the type of film to be a good anime or cartoon kinda thing or at least that's what it feels like to me.
#TeamRodan I picked Rodan because he is just awesome you could say the same thing about the others but I love the way hes just living inside a volcano like who can do that? and that his wingspan size is to big he can take down buildings just by flying next to them. I love his design in this new movie and he doesn't look as goofy as in the old movies.
What most people seem to be in agreement on for this movie, like it or not, is that the presentation of Ghidorah as a truly incomprehensible god that acts like a classic Lovecraftian entity.
His casual disregard for physics and cult-like inspiration is particularly creepy and unsettling.
To be fair Ghidorah seems a bit more suited to locomoting bipedally than Smaug does just by virtue of their design/leg proportions but I see what you mean. It may not be an attempt to scare off Godzilla but just more so a way of asserting himself and displaying his might before engaging in combat. Ghidorahs a badass and he clearly knows it lol
The Toho movies were pretty solid. But honestly, I watched a Godzilla Halloween marathon a couple years ago and they started to blend together. It got to a point where I seemed to perk up when I saw the Toho logo at the start of the movie.
Can't remember the movie, but there was one with subtitles. It was really good but frustrating trying to read and watch at the same time.
I doubt Godzilla’s going to use his atomic breath “often” he doesn’t really seem to rely on it as much as other incarnations.
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Yes, My son is very fond of Godzilla and other Kaijus.
He liked "Kaiju Contamination Zone Kids Hoodie" very much. I hope to win it and give it as a gift to my son
EmptyH,
Haruo started becoming more likeable during the second movie, though I admit I was grading him on a curve for both parts 2 and 3.
Major spoiler here, but what blew my mind was his decision by the end of the third movie. While it doesn't really work on a practical level - he left his unborn child behind and we're supposed to assume his sacrifice means no one else held ill will against Godzilla - it really sings as a symbolic gesture.
The Houtua had no word for "hate", but Haruo carried a sense of aggression and hatred with him that couldn't exist if humanity were to move on. King Ghidorah was a physical manifestation of his hatred and the nanometal was the remnants of Bilusaludo arrogance. In ridding the Houtua of himself, Godzilla finally ended his reign as the "God of Destruction". He had already remade the world in his image and the Houtua had learned to co-exist with him. So with Haruo's death he really did become just like a tornado or lightning. (As one of the Mothra twins said.)
Additionally, King Ghidorah would no longer return and the nanometal had been destroyed. This could be viewed as anti-progressive, but I tend to see it as progression of another kind. It turns out Mothra may be the only real god(ess) in this universe afterall--And a good one that encourages communication and removes hate from the vocabulary. Haruo would've infected that vernacular.
It's idealistic, but shockingly admirable. Planet Eater isn't the first story I've seen to suggest removing aggressive heroes that threaten peace. Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz also engages in the discussion of what to do with soldiers in a world that doesn't need them--Should peace exist.
It's not a perfectly thought out ideal, but it has merit and is worth discussing: Do soldiers like Haruo in Godzilla and Heero in Gundam exist merely to protect the more peaceful and benevolent until they're no longer needed? And what happens to them when they're recognized as an old breed of unnecessary aggression? Do they die? Do they leave? Do they try to find a new sense of meaning?
It's sort of a scary topic and I was in shock when The Planet Eater touched on it. If briefly.
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I helped my son to spell letters. But he has drawn the paintings completely
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Agree.
Just finished the movie a few minutes ago. While I would put the first 2 films on the bottom half of Godzilla films overall, I would actually put this 3rd film in the top half. It has an interesting human plot and, like you said, gives us more to chew on. Also, I could actually stand and maybe even liked the main character this time.
Some minor spoilers, but nothing too big. It's just hard to talk about these films without mentioning a few things.
I actually quite enjoyed it and agree with those who call this one the strongest. The anime movies don't function all that well as films, but I applaud how experimental they are and how they have the balls to explore some very hard, uncomfortable themes.
It's interesting how each monster represents a god to certain people and have religions/cults built around them. One of my favorite things about the second movie was how hypocritical the Bilusaludo were toward the Exif. They mocked the Exif for their religion, but really the Bilusaludo's religion was the worship of their technology/nano-metal/MechaGodzilla--It was no different. They were just blind to it.
By the third movie it's clear that the Exif act more as a cult than a religion, but I suppose it's still worth exploring when you compare them to the benevolent Houtua. Godzilla, MechaGodzilla and King Ghidorah were all perceived as gods or worshiped out of arrogance and fear. Mothra is the only one worshiped because the Houtua trust her and find comfort in her. She's not being used to justify negative attributes--Like Haruo's hatred, the Bilusaludo's arrogance and the Exif's cultural beliefs.
In fact Mothra's existence did the one thing humanity has always needed to understand each other better--Help the Houtua communicate better. She was the antithesis of all of these 'gods' and unlike Godzilla, MechaGodzilla [City] and King Ghidorah, she never got physically involved. She was somehow above all of that.
So while the films aren't particularly great, I think they bring up a lot of interesting topics worth talking about that the franchise has never touched on before. Thematically, they give us more to chew on than anything the Monsterverse is bringing to the table.
OP, your kid draw better than me, he's got talent!
I was not a fan of the first one to be honest, it really dragged and the characters weren't all that appealing. I don't have any issue about any take on Godzilla. But whatever take you want, it has to be told well. And the first one just wasn't told well to capture the audience attention. The second was marginally better, but I wouldn't put it in the "good" category. The final one...shrugs, we'll see.
I want to marathon the whole trilogy before I come to a final conclusion, but I understand now that the point of the anime is less about Godzilla and more about Haruo coming to terms with his anger and letting go of his hatred for Godzilla. Godzilla is more a back-drop or symbol than anything else, so while the anime films might not be the best films as Godzilla films, they may be better films just as stand-alone science fiction drama.
I won't spoil it for anyone but the ending is actually very touching and very sad, which surprised me because up until the third film I hadn't really felt much towards the characters. I had really only liked and being interested in Metphies and the Bilusulado characters but Haruo's arc did seem to come completely to a satisfying conclusion.
Fair point, hadn't thought of that angle after only a single viewing. There's a lot of dialog in these films and I've found it worthwhile to run through each film over again before the follow up to digest them a little deeper. It did prove to be more satisfying to go back and watch the first two knowing ahead of time that Metphies meant Ghidorah every time he mentioned God, clarified a lot of moments.
The religious themes are two-sided, from what I could discern. The Exif represent the negative qualities of blind faith and giving into desperation. The Hotua, however, show great compassion and a more ascetic lifestyle through their worship of Mothra.

















