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monsterzero9

Very smooth

We are conflating the issue, instead of seeing it as it is which is usually A minority.

Im also probably Out of touch bc usually Idc what other fans do.

And I apologize for burying topics. I defenitely have been doing so 

I like both

those are fair points, but to be honest, I think that’s a much smaller group of people than it seems. 

There are plenty of new projects and new fans who still respect the older films as valid godzilla content, (think the many Godzilla games that people make on roblox) I just worry that 

SasquaDash

I did that mostly for conciseness. But yeah I grew for the most part for GvK, I was going more for the intent than what could be interpreted, because both GvK and SP were explicitly meant only for entertainment. 

Also I just don’t like GvK that much. So if I treat it unfairly in the theme department, you know why

Yeah

I like the 2014 spines since it gave that Godzilla a unique identity compared to the other godzilla's of their respective eras

Huh, usually I found Toho Godzilla fans were the elitists, I have yet to find a Monsterverse elitist.

Imagine highlighting these problems a year ago only to be lambasted and now everyone is on the same page.

Even then though, I'm less concerned about people liking what they like (if you're just a Monsterverse fan, then okay) and more concerned about the blatant disrespect and erasure for why some of these newer flicks exist at all. There's a mindset that people consider the first 32 or so films as "practice" (literally what someone once said) and the real series hasn't started until recently.

Let's forget I've found the last two Monsterverse disasters insufferable to sit through. There seems to be a prevailing idea that it's the series proper over anything else and that is unfortunate given the amount of diversity, experimentation and width that the series has pushed before 2014. Especially since the newer flicks are as bland as most MCU and Hollywood tent poles released lately.

I'm just glad Godzilla Day doesn't really push anything Monsterverse or Tristar related, so I don't have to endure it on his birthday.

And yeah, a part of me did just post this because monsterzero9 feels his topic is being buried and it's honestly one of the braver discussions he's tossed in the ring.

its almost like you made all these topics to drown out my criticism of the modern godzilla fan. 

completely neglecting all other godzilla films outside of the monsterverse?

wow that sure was a shameless plug

Is this....

spam posting?

that is the most ridiculous question ever.

yes

Xenotaris

Yeah, if Mechagodzilla wasn't built, Godzilla wouldn't have shown any aggression towards humanity and Apex wouldn't have taken Kong off of Skull Island to use him as a guide to get to the Hollow Earth energy source, which means that Godzilla and Kong wouldn't have crossed paths. So technically the events of GvK wouldn't have happened without Mechagodzilla.

So in other words had humans not messed with nature, the whole plot of Godzilla vs Kong could have been avoid. Those dumb humans but it goes to show that History shows again and gain how Nature points out the folly of man.

well Ghouls might look like zombies but they aren't undead. They are just irradiated humans that merely look like zombies or a burnt person. Cold blooded animals handle radiation differently in the Fallout universe, they grow in size while mammals lose their fur/hair.

HinikunaGoji 

Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla did contain some themes of humanity's recklessness with nuclear energy. 

In 2014, the MUTOs were uncovered by an attempt to mine for uranium, which resulted The Male MUTO awakening and attacking the Janjira power plant in order to feed on the energy from the reactors. The government then carelessly stored the Female MUTO's spore in an area with large amounts of nuclear weapons and waste, allowing the Female to feed off of it and grow. The Military shows even more carelessness with nuclear weapons by attempting to use nuclear warheads in an attempt to kill Godzilla and the MUTOs (despite Serizawa's warnings), which ends up backfiring and making the situation worse.

Shin Godzilla had less connection to the nuclear narrative, but still contained some of it, with the fact that Godzilla was created after barrels of nuclear waste were dumped in the ocean, with Godzilla being mutated after feeding on it.

Also, I wouldn't say that GvK and Singular Point were completely devoid of any themes.

GvK had some themes dealing with technology and man's hubris (specifically with the Mechagodzilla plot), with humanity attempting to harness a power beyond their control as a way of "over throwing the gods" (in this case Godzilla and the other Titans) in order to remain as the "apex species", which not only summons Godzilla's wrath, but ends up backfiring, resulting in Mechagodzilla's rampage and the downfall of Apex Cybernetics. Godzilla and Kong's conflict was pretty much started by Apex building Mechagodzilla, with them taking Kong off of Skull Island in order to use him to find the Hollow Earth energy source, which caused Kong to cross paths with Godzilla (who's attempt to destroy Apex ended up leading him to Kong).

And Singular Point had a bunch of physics and math lectures that it continued to beat the audience over the head with.

But gievn ghouls can be mutated animals and humans I would say goji could be one

Xenotaris

ping

Ypu guys are both great!! I love the artwork

Xenotaris

So could godzilla be called a zombie mutant, Idk much about fallout but Im guessing

I am jealous of your artistic skill.

Maybe I should posted this as Godzilla in the Fallout universe

HinikunaGoji 

i believe its your turn to post here Godzilla in the Fallout Universe

Well I like Showa, Heisei, Tristar was enjoyable while it lasted, and I desperately need to watch the Millennium era films. Monsterverse was also entertaining too, I haven't gotten into any of the Reiwa stuff yet

ANd here Godzilla vs kong

Heres godzilla vs mechagodzilla 

Cool Godzilla

Those are not people, those are bots that are given keywords that they automatically use and fill in. 

Swearing tantrums is pretty par the course per the internet. People swear.

No updates for today I guess.

Swearing Tantrums? Who would that be?

Not to mention the people that are not fans at all, It is not a problem but all they do is introduce websites and products. That wasn't that bad though, at least they weren't the ones that are rude. 

Wow God_Zilla, you reached 63XP in 1 day! That is very fast tbh.

God_Zilla Good Point.

monsterzero9 What would the topic be about?

I get the faithfulness of the nuclear metaphor, but, theres a reason thats not the focus point of any of the themes of any newer goji films.

Kotm had environmentalism, Gmk had National Guilt, Shin had Politics and Eldritch monsters, The earth trilogy had politics and Eldritch monsters, And Gvk and Sp had nothing.

Have fun with it, nuclear metaphor can be good, but it shouldnt be done just for the sake of being faithful

Idrc anymore. Im one of them.

Plus tbh most of the older fans probably liked the showa era, not bc of the "Themes" its fun to watch rubber monsters fight.

People like things for different reasons, I used to try to act older and gatekeep basically fans the same age as me to be mature. 

I mean sure themes and writing are nice, but theres a reason GvK brought in many new fans. Monke v Lizard

Its not the end of the world.

Also hesei age people, if you try to claim that you appriciated the dark tone of that era when you were like six, i mean i cant stop you, but its kind of weird.

I'm with G.H. (Gman), you kind of have to watch all of the godzilla movies to fully appreciate the characters, not just for Godzilla himself but for Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidorah as well. 

I know its a Herculean task but ya just got to do it, ya know

¯_("/)_/¯

How about a more stand-alone, nuclear metaphor Godzilla MV movie?

It'd be a perfect use for human characters like Madison 

That's a pretty good list.