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I wouldn’t like to see an R rated kaiju movie.
world of godzilla is most likely dead at this point...
Foreverwing Especially your last sentence contains an interesting aspect. Here I would be interested in what would have come out if Toho & Legendary & Warner had created the monsterverse together.
I agree. That "cheerful" tone ruins several scenes in the movies. Inside the Monsterverse, we have the infamous "gonorrhea" scene in GKoM (I can't understand what kind of writer thought that line was a good idea).
I would go further, and make R-rated kaijus movies, in order to have more visceral fights, and to be able to pose more complex plots, without fear of "the children who only want to see GODzilla raping the monster on duty", and then they They complain with arguments like - "Humans are in the way" -, - "I went to see Godzilla, not humans" -, or the worst - "The plot is unnecessary, I just want to see monster fights" -. Children who ignore what Godzilla is, demand to see a disaster at the level of Michael Bay's Transformers, and complain when the product has something of quality, saying that it is boring.
Although of course, the type of Godzilla movie that I would like to see, I don't know if it suits Hollywood interests, I don't even know if Toho's, although I trust that if "World of Godzilla" is ever made, it will be fairly similar to what I hope, but better.
not so anyway. if i don't understand something, i'll ask.
We all try to understand things, don't take it hardly...
SarcasticGoji that's ok, unfortunately it always takes me a little while to understand. But I try to do my best
I was just kidding when I said more is more, I was just remembering something funny. I didn’t make that clear.
I also believe that in fiction rules can be bent, a story doesn’t always have to be rooted in reality or real world physics, especially if it’s a giant monster series where this exists:
I find it funny that people complain about the Godzilla series not being 100% realistic with radiation, yet when Bruce Banner becomes the Hulk by being bombarded by gamma radiation no one questions it (even though logically, that should kill him). I’m okay with fiction taking creative liberties if it fits the story. Fire can’t naturally exist underwater, but if cartoons want to make jokes about it, I feel like they should be able to.
“Space is warped and time is bendable.” - Mike Nelson
I hope that I still get to see GVK. That is a problem here in Germany with our government, how the pandemic situation is handled. Believe me when I tell you: we are annoyed without end ...
Godzilla Vs. Kong is overall a good movie.
There were just some things that irked me though
I can well imagine. Unfortunately, I still haven't seen GVK. But the stories here in the forum let me suspect nothing good ... special effect, fights top but the others ...
ha, yeah.
But unfortunately it did not work when the TAP WATER joke was used in GVK
SasquaDash that is, of course, difficult to portray. So if I were in this base and I saw a 390-foot monster, I'd be scared and wouldn't even think about a beer. It's always easy to criticize. On the other hand, you can't please everyone. There will always be someone who has something to criticize.
Honestly, I felt the sarcastic "Sure, let's bring him in for a beer" line in King of the Monsters actually worked in that situation because it felt like a genuine reaction. I mean, when you have an angry 390 ft monster threatening your base and then someone tells you to disable weapons and to open the shield how else are you going to react?
it was some of the other attemps at humor that didn't work so well...
One thing should not be forgotten: Godzilla is a Japanese brand. The japanese tell stories differently. Many of their traditions seem strange to us "from the West". The Japanese certainly feel the same way about us.
Toho has a lot of anime in their program that are great stories. "Akira" is one of them, for example. It's not everyone's story, but I love the film.
YES THANK YOU
A film can have humor, but then this humor must be placed in the right place. "Godzilla on a beer to be invited", is in any case not one of them to call an example! I would have liked to see more seriousness in this genre.
which sucks, as I prefer this series tackles a serious tone...
I would love to see the MonsterVerse take on a much more serious and darker tone, unfortunately most critics and general audiences often criticize and bash monster movies for taking on a serious tone.
The Return of Godzilla/Godzilla 1985 suffered from that, with critics bashing it for being "Too straight to be funny"
Godzilla 2014 was even criticized for taking itself too seriously and not being a "goofy monster action movie", which is why the later MonsterVerse installments have focused more on fun monster action than having a serious tone.
Yes, on it's own Solar radiation is harmful, however because of Earth's atmosphere blocking the harmful UltraViolet rays, solar energy becomes a beneficial power source that helps the environment grow.
That’s why I compared the Titan’s energy to photosynthesis. Carbon Dioxide is poisonous to humans and animals, however trees absorb Carbon Dioxide and convert it to breathable oxygen that humans and animals need to survive. Likewise, it’s not too much of a stretch to suggest that the MonsterVerse Titans that feed on harmful radiation can convert that radiation into a beneficial source of energy that can heal the environment.
True, but you need to indulge new ones in a way they'll get behind your product as Disney has always done it with the Marvel Cinematic Universe even though they're interconnected to the max.
SarcasticGoji my translation was bad ... I meant that this is the case from your point of view, but I don't quite share this opinion. Of course Peter Jackson has an overlength (after all, I have the film here). But these are exceptions. You can't apply that to all films.
I think as a director I don't just want to make films for the fans alone, but I also want to win new fans.
Geez SarcasticGoji, what do you want from future MonsterVerse movies????
Yeah I know.....and now I'm confused about the reactions
No, the fact that the movie wasn’t dark is what people liked.... it didn’t take itself seriously, people wanted that rather than a serious story.
you that is already in order, would be bad if we were all of the same opinion.
The answer isn’t that obvious actually.... if he could do that, then serious chemical reactions would have to occur. Essentially he’d have to able to absorb the radiation, convert it to energy, use some of that energy to convert to light.
Yes radiation is light
Sure, we can keep the bombast and the crazy fun action but give the story a darker tone.
I said OF COURSE HE CAN TRANSFORM IT INTO GOOD ENERGY
The question made no sense because the answer is obvious...
It makes more sense than you think actually. If he’s absorbing harmful radiation, a biological process could convert it in helpful radiation.
Solar radiation isn’t the best example. We need the atmosphere to protect us from it.
Uh, people are hating the COMEDY, ALL OF IT.
I didn’t mean the comedy
I disagree. More is more.
Although actually I agree with that.
Keep in mind The lightheartedness is what made GVK successful. People don’t take giant monsters seriously anymore,
Makes ZERO sense that question.
OF COURSE HE DOES
For god's sake, Gamera vs Jiger was 2 hours and 50 minutes and Peter Jackson's King Kong is 3 hours and 20 minutes (extended edition, the theatrical cut is 3 hours and 2 minutes). Justice League could have easily been 3 hours and 45 minutes in my opinion, but Dune Part 1 could be 3 hours and so can Dune Part 2.
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Wait does Godzilla absorb harmful radiation and use it to creat beneficial radiation?
The way it going, I don’t think that will happen
I agree. Only one thing: 3:20 is a bit too much in my opinion. 2:00 - maximum 2:20 should be enough. You can see that in the Justice Leage (synder cut). The hardcore fans like to sit in the cinema for 4 hours, but the rest?
For a comparison: Dune, the new version. I'm really looking forward to that. The director has already announced that there will be 2 parts, because the story is so complex. sometimes less is more!
