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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

Well, in a critical sense.  I think G'14 is a failure in terms of story and characters (specifically referring to the handlings of Godzilla's minor screentime and the wasting of Joe Brody)

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

Ok Cybertron vs. MV and RPO and Earth

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

HinikunaGoji, sonictiger,
Yeah, I wouldn't call a movie that made profit somewhere in the neighborhood of $130-$210 million a failure--False advertising or not.

It's still the only Godzilla movie (and Monsterverse flick) to cross $200M in the United States.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIdeas for battles

sonictiger,
The Unicron Trilogy shows (Armada, Energon & Cybertron) are probably the strongest--Specifically some of the insanity they pull off in Cybertron.

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XenotarisGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

I love Godzilla 2014, I only saw the initial trailer to Godzilla 2014 in theaters

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

sonictiger

A movie that is deemed a failure is a movie that doesn’t do well at the box office. 

Godzilla 14s advertising made Godzilla seem like a villain in the movie, but the movie preformed well and was still liked. So false advertising isn’t what constitutes a failure.

Anyone else remember seeing the G14 trailers in theaters.

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XenotarisGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

soon, I have been working on AVPU since I have a case of writer's block with Rise of the Kaiju

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

So anyways G1 Vs. MV and RPO

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

Yes, that's my point.

A movie with false advertising usually is deemed a failure.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

@Xenotaris, Thanks!

Also when is Rise of The Kaiju returning?

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XenotarisGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

@SonicTiger

I believe the G1 Transformers are the strongest

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

what is going on

how about Mechagodzilla (MV) vs Destoroyah?

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

Which are the strongest Transformers iterations?

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIdeas for battles

If it's Bayformers, then any incarnation of MechaGodzilla would likely shake them to pieces with just the quaking of their footsteps. They've got to be the weakest iterations of the characters considering how easily they fall to conventional, handheld military weapons. I mean, regular firearms were rendering them blind in the the third one.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

How about MonsterVerse, RPO, and Earth Mecha G

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

y e s

and again i have no knowledge at all of Transformers

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumIdeas for battles

Definitely depends on which iterations of MechaGodzilla and the Autobots.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

How about MechaGodzilla vs. The Autobots

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

All I'm saying is, I usually feel a bit wronged when movies don't deliver what they promise in the marketing.

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

sonictiger,
While I do think there's merit to how personal expectation is met based on how a film is advertised, I do not think marketing should be one of the variables used to judge a film's quality.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

Godzilla Vs. Kong advertised a bonkers battle and it gave us an absolutely bonkers battle.  Kong: Skull Island promised more screentime to the title character since Godzilla '14 failed to do so.

So yeah, you're right.  It's probably why I think GVK and KSI are the stronger films and G14 and KOTM are the weaker films.

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

k :)

ill redraw it from the beginning cause 1: i dunno where the old one is

2: outdated art

3: it wasnt very long anyway

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumIdeas for battles

i hereby alive this topic.

should i still write that Robot Masters vs FW Gigan? i remember being so pumped about it i even drew a comic which of course never got finished lol

then again, i never started writing it

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G. H. (Gman)Godzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

sonictiger,
That isn't the first time WB did this. Bryan Cranston is an infinitely bigger name than Millie Bobby Brown and he was advertised front and center as the main character for Godzilla '14. The ads and trailers made it look like Cranston was going to go up against a villainous Godzilla and we ended up getting something different.

To be fair, regardless of their quality, Godzilla vs. Kong and Kong: Skull Island were probably the two most honestly advertised of the Monsterverse.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

Also, they basically set up Madison for a larger role but didn't even have the decency to follow through with that in Godzilla Vs. Kong.  So it was all basically a wasted effort on WB's part because they were claiming they were doing all this stuff with an insanely popular actress when in truth they weren't.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

The thing is, the fact that they were advertising Millie so much (due to name value) makes WB look more pathetic than they already are as they're basically saying that they have no faith in this movie being watched.  They went to insane degrees to push the fact that they had an insanely popular Emmy-Nominated actress in this movie about monsters beating the heck out of one another just because they're not sure how many US Godzilla fans are there and they don't know if casual viewers will care about the movie so they're basically bribing you to see it at this point.

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

What's annoying about KOTM is that sure Madison did stuff but WB forced the claim that she was the main character so far up our [REDACTED] that people were expecting that and then....we all know what happened.

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SasquaDashGodzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

Jack Capellini

I wouldn't be surprised if they go in that direction either, they did tease the idea of Kong finding others of his kind in the Hollow Earth during GvK. I think the idea of Kong interacting with other Kongs is a really interesting idea. The only time that's been done was in King Kong Lives, and while that movie is really bad, the idea of Kong finding a mate is a cool concept and, if done right, it could make for an amazing movie.

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Gojirafan2013Godzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

@SasquaDash: I really like that idea, and it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the direction the next MonsterVerse film will go in. It’s much more realistic than Kong fighting Gororsaurus or King Caesar. 

Plus, the rumor that the next MonsterVerse film will be titled “Son of Kong” gives some credence to this theory. However, we should keep in mind that the Hollywood Reporter article that originally reported on this rumor stated that “Son of Kong” was only one of many titles that were being tossed around. So it’s entirely possible that the next film won’t be Kong centric at all, or maybe it’ll revolve around Kong discovering more members of his species in the Hollow Earth, but he won’t have a son. 

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SasquaDashGodzilla ForumI’d rather see Kong fight brand new monsters instead of Toho monsters in another sequel of his.

Hear me out,

What if the next MonsterVerse film focused on Kong finding more of his kind, the major conflict being his attempts to fit in with them? Think about it, Kong's been alone for most of his life, he's never interacted with another member of his species, so how would he react to being among other Kongs? How would they react to him? Living in isolation on Skull Island may have resulted in Kong behaving differently than the rest of his kind. Maybe the Hollow Earth Kongs view him as an outcast. Kong wants to be part of the group, but for the most part the others don't want him around. This could lead to a pretty emotional story, Kong's finally found others of his kind, yet he's still alone. Kong's journey could be him trying to gain the trust and respect of the group. Another conflict could arise from the social structure of the group, Kong's used to being the ruler of Skull Island and "bowing to no one", so what happens when he has to follow the command of others? Maybe the troop is being lead by a older, aggressive, battle worn silverback who views Kong as a threat to his leadership. This could eventually lead to Kong challenging the silverback which could lead to a massive battle for dominance. Maybe at the end of the film Kong defeats the silverback or ends up defeating another titan that threatens the troop, allowing become the leader of the troop and finally earning the title of "King Kong". Kong could also find a mate within the troop, finally giving him the happy ending that he rightfully deserves.

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumThe reason the MCU can make solo films for obscure characters and why the MonsterVerse can’t.

sonictiger

GvK really didn’t Celeb bait, sure they had famous actors, but it was no where near the advertising of Millie Bobbie Brown for KOTM

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DjdndnejwnwnGodzilla ForumThe Human Characters of Monsterverse

I don’t really hate him, sure he was unnecessary but I was expecting that

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KattozillaGodzilla ForumThe Human Characters of Monsterverse

a lot of people didn't like Josh but i actually didn't mind him

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sonictigerGodzilla ForumThe Human Characters of Monsterverse

Finally, someone who actually likes Madison

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