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RR44

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I watched the whole thing on Tuesday the 11th of October. I was surprised that I liked it as much as I did. A lot of dialogue explaining Gojira and what he more or less is. I was freaked out by the ending. Very creepy to say the least. But all in all.. it was..for TOHO anyway.. a true horror film. and I loved it as such. Now I have 2 G films that I look forward to seeing sequels for. Edward's entry was dry script wise.. where as TOHO's was script heavy. Edward's G was cool.. but not enough on screen destruction was on display. Where as TOHO's had destruction plenty. I take back what I said about shin gojira not being a true Godzilla film.. It is a true Godzilla film when likened to the first one. 

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Ok please no flame war. Also there are people with different opinions kay. Japan created Godzilla so many G-fans assume that Shin Gojira will beat Godzilla 2014. But there are some people who became G-fans by watching Edwards Godzilla or simply watching *cough* 1998 and even just liking it better than the Japanese ones! So please put your differences aside and just be friendly.

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Ok please no flame war. Also there are people with different opinions kay. Japan created Godzilla so many G-fans assume that Shin Gojira will beat Godzilla 2014. But there are some people who became G-fans by watching Edwards Godzilla or simply watching *cough* 1998 and even just liking it better than the Japanese ones! So please put your differences aside and just be friendly.

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I agree with ShiroGoji.

@Gman2887: I think they meant the best american Godzilla movie not the best japanese godzilla movie. G14 was created in the advent to correct themselves from repeating the mistakes made in Godzilla 1998, also Toho praised G14 and they made a statue of LegendaryGoji in Tokyo. It was the film maker's attempt to make a "true" godzilla movie with the appeal of a hollywood movie (Can't really say american since every one across the western world come to hollywood to make movies). Is it a godzilla movie yes, was it it made by Toho? no. I bet if japan had the same budget as hollywood back in the early days of Japanese cinema they would of used Stop Motion rather than a man in a suit and if we fast forward today with this hypothetical alternative timeline they would be using CGI instead of practical effects. Heck the only reasons why they (Japan) still use a man in a suit is because of tradition and budget constraints.

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Thanks Xenotaris! Also sorry for the triple post.

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Godzilla is something very special and very different to each of us. :)

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RR44 - This is a very fun topic! I have not yet had the pleasure of viewing Shin Gojira. However, I am very much looking forward to having that opportunity in the near future! I am extremely pleased that you enjoyed it! :)

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Gman, we both have differing opinions. I can see that you are more of a traditional Godzilla fan, while I view Godzilla 2014 as the best. We are not going to agree on that. From what I have seen, of Shin-Gojira, it looks way too overdone. It looks like a Godzilla film that, because it has been sooooo long since a true Japanese Godzilla film, they wanted it to be an epic reminder that Japan is the only place where you get a real Godzilla film.

The film was really cool in certain parts, I previously criticized the operatic music--but I never said it was not good. The use of classic Tokusatsu and CGI is also very nice--but I still don't rank it that high with other Godzilla films, just as you do G14 to the rest. Besides the good aspects of it, the film dies after the second quarter.

It becomes way too melodramatic, with strange acting, which is not uncommon in Godzilla films. Godzilla becomes sort of an immovable wall that magically gets attacked by this weapon they create out of thin air. SPOILERS..........He gets defeated. I know they are trying to pay homage and give "respects" to Godzilla 1954 with this, but it just feels too much like a homage, and too much like Godzilla 1954 on steroids--much like Jurassic World did to Jurassic Park.

I like the film, but I don't love it--whereas I greatly enjoyed Godzilla 2014. Therefore, it seems your opinion and mine, Gman, are entirely opposites.

Good grief.

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GG he didn't die lol! He was frozen temporarily. So the people are obliged to coexist with him till he awakens again. When he will the Americans will nuke him.

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@Xenotaris

 

As someone who was here for the 2014 hype can confirm people mentioned it as the best Godzilla movie, not just American one. In fact it was common to hear statements downplaying Toho's godzilla, like bad effects, or cheesy stories, or lackthereof that people believed 2014 would remedy.

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@Durp004

I joined this website back in 2012... back when scified was dedicated to Prometheus. I was here back when Godzilla 2014 was first announced. 

 

I have yet to watch Godzilla: Resurgence but I plan too since it was directed by Evangelion director Hideki Anno. My personal opinions on the Godzilla series, Godzilla 2014 is my favorite Godzilla movie of all time then its Godzilla 1954. My first Godzilla movie was Godzilla vs Monster Zero and I did enjoy Godzilla 1998 (I liked the creature but the story was lacking) and I wasn't a fan of Godzilla Final Wars or Godzilla vs Mecha Ghidorah.

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What does 2014 have to offer though? What does 2014 represent? 

 

I'm going to add my two cents here with my review, spoiler filled of course.

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/journal/Shin-Godzilla-Review-Full-Spoilers-639786079

 

And bonus material here. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/journal/Shin-Godzilla-Bonus-Material-640125470

 

 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/  check out my gallery of Godzilla artwork! Follow me on Twitter@thebigbadben90.

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"Did it put 2014 to dust? No, simple answer."

 

Actually it did. At least our main and best characters didn't die like Bryan Cranston did. Both may be 2 hours long, but I wasn't bothered, too complaintive, or bored with Shin Godzilla. 2014 may have the better effects and new monsters, but that's about it. Shin Godzilla had and still has a lot more to offer. 

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Would have to disagree.

Good grief.

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^

May I ask why? 

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Shin Godzilla has substance for half of the movie, but the end jsut feels like it drags on--and ends rather weak for such a powerful and terrifying first half. Godzilla 2014 had me on the edge of my seat waiting for Godzilla all the way until the end--whereas Shin-Gojira had weird multiple forms, and when he finally appeared, sure he wrecked some havoc--but he got owned in the final section.

Film just becomes boring, whereas G14 ended strong.

Good grief.

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Xenotaris,

"I think they meant the best american Godzilla movie not the best japanese godzilla movie."

You weren't around the forums during this time. There were members both here, and other venues, very explicitly claiming the 2014 movie would be the very best Godzilla movie of all time--1998 and otherwise. It was blatant, detailed, loud and clear. One even claimed good movies can't be made without a Hollywood mentality which is pretty much petty, western prejudice at its finest.

And I can confirm that Tsuburaya wanted to use stop motion animation. And if he were alive he would likely use plenty of CGI. However, that is not the path that went down, so it's fairly irrelevant.

Instead, we have a unique piece of cinema history that has shown the resilience and resourcefulness of a culture creating its own form of entertainment.

Even then I'm not sure why you're bringing up suitmation for Shin Godzilla considering he's completely CGI in the new movie. This really only applies to current television tokusatsu right now, like Ultraman, Kamen Rider and Super Sentai.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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"Gman, we both have differing opinions. I can see that you are more of a traditional Godzilla fan, while I view Godzilla 2014 as the best"

A character flaw on your part. We'll try to forgive you.

"From what I have seen, of Shin-Gojira, it looks way too overdone."

Back up... "from what I have seen". Have you actually sat through the entirety of Shin Godzilla?

"It becomes way too melodramatic, with strange acting,"

This is literally the least melodramatic Godzilla film since there is no melodrama. You might want to check up on the word usage.

"Godzilla becomes sort of an immovable wall that magically gets attacked by this weapon they create out of thin air."

Not liking Godzilla 'shutting down' is fine--It's a preference that doesn't really dictate the quality of the movie at all. But "create our of thin air"? Where were you if you were actually watching this movie? The weapon -- or plan, rather -- was literally set in motion at he beginning of the second act before Godzilla's second landing. In fact the majority of the movie is based on figuring out how to make it work, producing enough material and racing the clock to administer it. Nothing was out of thin air here--In fact it couldn't have been any more laid out for the audience step-by-step.

"He gets defeated. I know they are trying to pay homage and give "respects" to Godzilla 1954 with this, but it just feels too much like a homage, and too much like Godzilla 1954 on steroids--much like Jurassic World did to Jurassic Park."

I'm not even sure how to respond to this one given none of it makes any sense. You really need to come up with better examples of how Godzilla getting defeated in an entirely different way to the 1954 climax is too much like an "homage". It's like saying, "Godzilla being tossed in a volcano in The Return of Godzilla is too much like an homage to the original film." Huh? It's not the first time he's been defeated. It won't be the last.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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I was too around the forum... maybe not Godzilla's page but I was definately here on the Alien/Prometheus page of these forums and I told yall i was here since October of 2012! Check my profile page it will tell you when I first signed up.

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^Fair enough. But you missed the little kids heralding the greatest thing since individually wrapped cheese slices--Being the "greatest Godzilla movie" was apparently a forgone conclusion, so they had to go the extra mile.

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C'mon stop arguring!

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