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This thread will act as a debate platform for fans to discuss the differences and competition between Legendary's Godzilla and Toho's Shin-Gojira from Godzilla Resurgence. 

We can separate the debate into 3 main categories:

Design and Concept

Which Godzilla has the better design? Which influential concepts did the King of the Monsters the most justice?

Abilities in a Fight

If the two Godzillas ever met and engaged in combat. Which one is more powerful? How would that battle play out?

Film Style and Quality

Keeping in mind both are completely different styles of film, this category is likely to spark some diverse opinions. Those debating this category should be familiar with both film's backgrounds and messages.

Regarding Godzilla Resurgence, many debate points will need to wait until new footage and/or the film is released. As right now, we don't know much about Shin-Goji's abilities and film style. For now however, the design is open for comparison and debate.

Let them fight...

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Kaiju Buchou
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I would think that given Gareth Edwards' Godzilla 2014's dexterity and the fact that he can take on 2 kaiju at once would count for something.  On the other hand, Toho invented Godzilla.  He had always been a lumbering beast that always finds a way to win. Far as the "burning Godzilla" goes, I believe that Shin Gojira, in classic Godzilla style will be a tremendous walking nuclear reactor, similar to what was suggested in Destroyah.

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On design and such: both are great! The difference is the intention. G14 was a "what would he look like in the real world" idea, so he is meant to look like a real animal, which he does. Shin-Goji is like a malevolent God, some terrifying other-worldly force. He looks like a nightmare.

In a battle I gotta go with Shin-Goji. I don't know what his abilities are but I just don't see G14 doing him in.

On a side-note: @ChrisPicard, what's going on with godzilla-movies.com? All the posts lead to error messages. It's like the website structure is collapsing.

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The new Godzilla looks like a giant turd.  The tail is awakwerdly over size,  and the face looks Like someone just put fixed Googly eyes on it.     

 

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G 14 . People think G 16 will win because he is bigger? Not really, look at this picture comparison: https://www.scified.com/media-thumbs/godzillaresurgencelegendarygojipacificrimsizechart-185034553560753.jpg 

 

The only real difference in size is G 16´s NECK, and his smaller arms. He is taller than G14 because he has a bigger Neck. THATS BAD. His vulnerable neck, is exposed, when he is already a giant lumbering slow Godzilla. 

Not only is G14 look physically more imposing (More muscle), he is faster, and his jaw is at the height of G16 long exposed Neck. This is like a Short faced Bear fighting an obesse Giraffe.

 

All my money is on G14

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^

That's rather blunt at this point. Toho has officially confirmed Shin Godzilla as the strongest. 

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When was THAT confirmed, Huge-Ben? I distinctly recall no news on ShinGoji being the strongest, just that he was the biggest. Plus, Darklarik has a few points on the fact that quite a bit of ShinGoji's height is in his neck, which is indeed at the level for LegendaryGoji's powerful jaws, as well as LegendaryGoji possessing greater musculature for his given BMI.

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^

It was confirmed several days ago on Twitter, Toho's official website, and other sites.

Here is the picture I took from Twitter. 

http://hugeben.deviantart.com/art/And-ironically-the-strongest-the-plot-thickens-607145623

It helps when you learn another language. It translates as, "After 12 years the strongest Godzilla is realized." even my Japanese friends claim this is indeed what it says. 

 

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And, Godzilla has always had a small head with a big neck. So, that's a rather moot point as well.

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And it's settled, Shin-Godzilla would destroy G'14. G'14 literally couldn't - and SHOULDN'T - touch him if spoilers are true.

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All you guys are missing. A plot point. The tail. Imaging 16 vs 14. Shin gojiras tail could litteraly wipe legendarys to the ground. Then purple breath. Then ya know. Shin gojira won. Take that you says legendary s would win

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Typical of the Japanese, they always have to have theirs stronger and better than our rendition of Godzilla.

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 ^I don't think Legendary was attempting to make the strongest or best Godzilla with their version. 

 

If they were then their research wasn't that thorough on what previous versions could do.

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Xenotaris,
Legendary never had the strongest to begin with. A good argument can be made that two-to-three prior Godzilla incarnations would trounce the 2014 version. Making an incarnation more powerful that 2014 really isn't that difficult. It can pretty much be done incidentally at this point.

Although I can't confirm anything for certain until seeing the full movie, one element is  stronger for sure: Shin Godzilla's atomic ray makes Legendary's look like a water pistol. I'm not ready to say Shin Godzilla has the most powerful atomic ray of any Godzilla incarnation, (Heisei and Final Wars is pretty ridiculous) but it looks like it's up there.

I just don't want him to be Heisei series & Final Wars overpowered. With it being a solo-Godzilla movie, it makes more sense for this incarnation to be a powerhouse in some way. But lets keep his atomic ray within Earth's atmosphere.

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Godzillafan2016, you're acting like a fanboy

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Durp004
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When people were naming winners when we only saw the shin godzilla trailer I think everyone was sounding a little like a fanboy of some kind whether it be for Shin or Legendary 

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From the extremely small sampling I've seen of Shin's ray, it reminds me of a miles long light saber being shot out of his mouth. Combined with a couple other tricks up his sleeve, it's almost as if Toho was saying, "Oh yeah? Look at what ours can do!"

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^Yeah, but really, some of those tricks are no more "out there" than what we've seen before. In fact some of them just seem like extensions of other abilities. Particularly...

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Well aware of past tricks. I was referring more to a "one upsmanship" to the Legendary G. I made a reference in another post that Toho has taken liberties with their character several times over the years, and he's theirs to do with as they please. Same with Rodan, Mothra, etc. It's definitely not a first, but this fan has never been crazy about it.

Like you said, let's keep his atomic ray within Earth's atmosphere.

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I still don't think there's deliberate "one upmanship" going on. Like I said previously, it's not particularly hard to invent a Godzilla incarnation that's stronger or has more abilities than the Legendary Godzilla. It can pretty much be done incidentally.

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."
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^Agreed. I've been one of G14's harshest critics; you know that. Legendary made him the biggest (not strongest, best), and then Toho made him even bigger, with a few more abilities. I think any that were in the same height/size range were more powerful, based on what we saw.

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