SPOILERS ALERT!!!!!!! MY THEORY ON THE EYE CONTACT SCENE
Godzilla 2014 Forum Topic

Godzilla'swrath
MemberMothra LarvaeMay 17, 201411316 Views54 RepliesLike the title says: SPIOLERS ALERT SPOILERS!!!!!!!
So, for those of you who have seen the movie already, we all know about the eye contact between Godzilla and Ford. Now, whenever I see that look on Godzilla's face I always think of him saying:" I'm sorry, I failed you....." but another thing that cathes me is that how HUMAN his face and eyes look. He looks so sad and defeated. It makes me think how much a really cares about the human race. But for that being another topic, here's my theory:
So, we all know Joe Brody, Ford's dad, blames the MUTO's (even though he doesn't know exactly what they are yet) for his wife's death. Now keep this in mind: Godzilla has not been awaken yet, but is still asleep somewhere in the ocean. After Joe finally sees for his very eyes what this creature truly is, he is imediattly killed off, by being thrown off a metal walk way from the muto's attack.
Now, my thinking is that Joe's spirit somehow awoke Godzilla, and maybe even took over his body, Because of my previous sayings of how Godzilla looked at Ford. But some other hints to this is that When Ford blew up the eggs and the female muto was going to eat him, Godzilla charged himself up like a boss, and saved Ford with his atomic breath. And also Godzilla never hurt any of the Navy ships, well at least not on purpose anyways. lol.
look, I know this sounds far fetched, but just think about it........Please leave your thoughts! but please keep them positive. thank you!
Other discussions started by Godzilla'swrath
Replies to SPOILERS ALERT!!!!!!! MY THEORY ON THE EYE CONTACT SCENE

You know what? That is a really good theory. I completely agree with you. I think Godzilla did care about the humans and didn't want them to get hurt. So in a way he was protecting us from the MUTOs. I think you are right. Good thought :)


It was clearly said by Gareth that Godzilla doesn't care about humans. The missiles and bridge are just pure coincidental.
To me, the scene where Godzilla looked into Ford's eyes made me think Godzilla was thinkng "Well would you look at that. Well I don't care about you so I'm just gonna go kill my prey, kay, thanks, bye."
Joe Brody's spirit and Godzilla's awakening would make sense if it was made by Toho but I think it would've been more implied if it happened.
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
What i think is :
Godzilla "Thank you so much tiny human..You just saved me from home work by killing those babby maggots"



@Something Real- Dang! I didn't even think of that! Awesome theory! Even thoough I cling to my theory, your's is probaly what Gareth was looking to acheive with that scene. Thank you VERY much for that idea!

Um, Godzilla's Wrath...nice. Submit something that, at a bare minimum, is contestable if not laughable (hard to do with science fiction, but I think you've done it) and then demand everyone to be postive. Okay, I'll try...
I think there is zero percent chance that Edwards had that in mind. Maybe 0.1...no, sorry 0.0. Perhapsthere was an intention of some very basic, slight connection between the two as living creatures--probably along the most basic lines of life. Yes, it's clear Godzilla has nothing against humans, but yes, the last writer had it right--he's just indifferent. He's swimming next to ships, under ships, yes. But not because he's considerate, but just because he has a locked-on purpose which is very instinctive, and we're just in his way. (BTW, to all the MUTO lovers out there--the people who feed bears--if the MUTO are so "cute" and just innocent animals, why are their actions so much more malevolent than Godzilla's? Oh yes, because they are parasites--the closest thing nature has to malevolency).
Well this indifference--if he really were as intelligent/thoughtful/spiritual as you suppose--would make NO SENSE. Why? Wellllll they did try to NUKE HIM 60 years ago, right? Yeah, I'm guessing he'd have held that against us just a tad, don't ya think? And not because he's gone Christian on us. He's an intelligent animal with some personality--smarter than a dog, but probably not quite as smart as a dolphin or gorilla...and no, not seeing much spirit there (okay this is where the positive...part...hard...stiffling laughter...)
Okay, sorry, I disagree with you.



@Carl Majors- Wow. you're cute. I'm just here to make theories ( as is everyone else here on this website) about the new movie and hope everyone here will have enough common courtesy to be positive and not be a complete tool. you really think i'm demanding it? hey, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't come here and expect people to listen to your whiny ass. I'm just here to have fun, and some limp noodle, such as yourself, isn't going to stop that. There are MULTIPLE reasons as to why Godzilla is very intelligent. one of them being: HE FREAKING TOOK THOUGHT INTO HOW TO KILL THE FEMALE, AND THOUGHT 'HEY WHY NOT BLAST THIS SHIT DOWN HER THROAT?'
oh, and if you don't like listening to people's theories and are going to shut down EVERY theory, then why don't you take a gander behind you, take a few steps, and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

@Something Real- Thank you for posting that! sorry about what I just put here, but i'm just SICK of people being tools who think they can go ahead and judge other peoples ideas cause they think they're better than everyone else. there are a BIG group of people in this dang age that don't have ANY common courtesy! Why can't people be more like you????


@KUROCHAN_24- I 100% Agree with you! That part made me VERY sad. I almost cried!!!
but maybe that sad smile you saw was saying: everything will be alright.


Something Real: Oh come on...that wasn't even a bloody nose. My ONLY pointed comment was, you can't write something in public and then say "only be positive." Only appropriate? Sure. Only clean language? Got it. But if I want to laugh at it, I can...this is a public forum. I didn't denigrate him personally, and I happened to think what he said was preposterous, okay? He has a right to say what he wants, and well, so do I...and if I want to laugh at his theory, well...can't I? Lighten up folks! We're discussing a fantasy movie!

Godzilla's Wrath: chill please, guy. If you want to say something in public, then you can't up front say "don't criticize my idea." That's basically what you did. If you hadn't thrown that disclaimer in there, I'd have matter of factly told you that I thought your theory had no merit. None. (I didn't use profanity either)... this wasn't a personal attack on you.. That's simply what I thought...so yes, I poked fun at you since you up front said I couldn't be "negative." Well, sorry to offend you, but realize, you're throwing it out there in public.
If anyone wants to fire back and take me to task on my opinion, well then, that's their right isn't it? I certainly won't tell them to only be positive. If you disagree with me, well isn't that negative? Should I be offended?
Is everyone else here so thin-skinned? Please let me know...I'll leave the kitchen if it's that stone cold...

Folks--all--
Please, no real antagonism meant here. Really, none. I like to challenge peoples' opinions, nothing more. Sorry to offend, but I call it as I see it. Yep, I was sarcastic, because I don't like being told up front to "only be positive." That's what my employer, the military, says too BTW. . .and they don't take criticism well either. So, please, I'm trying to have fun like everyone else. If some folks are not used to being poked at a little (I talk to my best friends 10x worse), okay, I'll dial it back...
But if you throw out something in public, you're inviting me to say what I think too...and if I think you're being silly, well, I'm gonna let you know it, okay? You do the same to me...no harm intended, but yeah, I'm hard to debate with--I'll make you do your homework.
Peace all, please.


Wow, Mr? My brothers address me as "hey, idiot" and my wife with "Really?" LOL.
Thanks. I'll admit, I like to make people just a little uncomfortable--I was an overbearingly sensitive kid, and so now...but I'm a lover, not a fighter. LOL
I responded to your other post about what I thought about the movie BTW...





You know I'm...kind of a big deal. I'm the captain of a hydrofoil..we should cruise out to Godzilla Island sometime...LOL


Yes, his research on black holes actually emitting radiation was beyond incredible...I mean, how would one even conceive such a thing?
I assume you've read the Grand Theory? It's basically quantum physics for dummies (I'm the dummy, not you). Very intriguing book. I part with Stevo, Carl Sagan and others in that I still stubbornly believe in God, but very hard to argue with their work. Cosmic inflation is definitely the most "Wowwwwwwwww" thing I've ever come across.
Do you ascribe to 11 dimensional spacetime? I pretty much do...I'm weak on the math though (remember, I'm a lover!)...
As for wit...well, thank you Miss...for you, any time.

Reference your earlier post about coming forward--hey, I'm wrong a lot...I've found that admitting it to others tends to disarm them and let them relax. Given my general lack of social skills, that's big bonus!


Yes, and I don't know enough of the math to be able to pry into it and really look deep--seems limited, but also seems their number is firmly rooted in the calculations they've labored over the last 30 years. Dunno if unified theory will ever make it (not like it is now)
Yep, I'm with you on God. Funny Sagan said that. I found his strident agnosticism irritating at times. I understand well scientists skepticsm of God, however, when they get insistent on it, I think they're overcompensating...
However, the biggest challenge to God I've seen yet, is actually in Hawking's book. Bascially throws causality right out the window, which if you also follow complexity theory, advanced sensemaking techniques and the like seems appropriate..and we will spend at least 100 years even approaching how to think about our physical world that way.
The million dollar question: if they invent a quantum computer?...My intuition tells me the implications are so..expansive...it could change humanity overnight...I worry about that.




Ahh, I wish I had your faith...my experience is that every new technology is exploited for good and bad--look at what criminals do with the internet, and trust me, it's big deal. Our society is increasingly specialized and as a result, individuals seem less and less concerned with the broader implications of their actions: scientists and lawyers in particular. My concern is in the new levels of "truth" such a thing may reveal...what if, we could suddenly "see" complex, emerging order and predict it like we can with complicated systems now? We could simultaneously "solve" complexity...but then what? As with many things, we've come close to earning the cognitive right to open that door, I'm just not so sure we've gotten there with our souls... See where I'm going?


Godzilla's Wrath,
Yes, Godzilla has a seemingly benign side, but I think it is truly more condescension. I think his manner is more like, say, the character Galactus, than it is friendly. Yes, he clearly avoids those things...I think it is more reflective of a smart animal. A bear can pull the top of my car door down like tin foil...but if he can get to my food without having to destroy anything and exert himself, he will. I think Godzilla is less mindful of not hurting people than he is thinking, "Gotta swim over there to get to beach--whaaa? Those little ants are blocking the water? uhhhhhhhh...okay, going under them...folks, I got MUTO to kill, you're not helping--outta the way!"
We really, really are beneath him in this movie. Yes, there is some tiny bit of connection there--for a moment, and as living creatures on the same earth--but him getting up and immediately leaving, deep & out of sight snaps that reality right back--we are separate and below him...and best we remember it.
This theory makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.
You guys are reaching. You are trying to force yourselves to love this movie. You been waiting for this damned thing for so long that you choose to ignore the fact that most of the things in Godzilla don't work.

Um, like what? Care to elaborate? If you say certain things in the movie didn't hit the mark, I could agree...not sure what you mean really though.
I for one, didn't force it liking it. I gave it 4 out of 5, but not higher because, well, I did think they could have done better with the Ford Brody character, they killed Cranston far too soon, and they lost one of their own main themes--family (I mean, how many posters here felt more connection with the MUTO family than the younger Brody family? right?). But it's about Godzilla...and yes, we didn't see probably quite enough of him, but that was deliberate...so...did it work? I think overall it did. It was a Godzilla movie after all...most of us here seem to like Godzilla, and most of us seemed to like it. The box office will speak for everyone else, especially on weekend #2...
I'll admit, after the Emrich disaster, probably a few of us wanting this one to work no matter what...but I don't think we're being outrageous here on that. The movie was a visual spectacle--that is undeniable.
I'd agree with you if you're saying we're reading too much into Godzilla's mentality and trying to make him seem more human than he is...I'd agree--he's basically somewhere between a dog and gorilla in intelligence...but I think that's part of the point...he's not as "smart" as us...yet still above us. I think the movie reinforces that, oh, about 5 or 6 times at least...power is power, and well, he's got the most. That simple.
If that theory is what it is then that would have been great for a Toho movie.
I thought it was more, two apex predators looking at one another. Both are the uncontested tops of their foodchain, but Godzilla is still the superior of all, its sort of.
"Stay out of my way, and i wont eat you, fellow Apex Species."
Are you an avid Godzilla fan looking for a dedicated online community of likeminded fans? Look no further! Create your own profile today and take part in our forums and gain XP points for all the content you post!


