Supposed Music from the Film

GhostKaiju
MemberMothra LarvaeApril 17, 20143294 Views46 RepliesThis may or may not be the opening track from the film. I like it.
As a music lover, I absolutely approve of this. The music grabbed my attention in the first 10 seconds. I truly adore this type of music piece. Well done Alexandre Desplat, well done indeed.
First, the website music, now this track. I am somehow disappointed by the soundtrack. Here is what I dislike:
-Where is the epicness?
Being this Godzilla's main theme, I would expect something more strong, maybe even some kind of thumping. (Just listen to the beggining of "Obliviate" from Harry Potter and the Deadly Hallows PT.1, its from the same composer, and it would suit this movie so well)
-It feels anticlimatic.
Since the first trailer (the leaked one) came out, it has been given the idea of a dark and emotional movie that would go beyond the typical PG-13 Action-Adventure blockbuster. This soundtrack, so far, appears to have a mood too light for what I expect from this movie.
So, that was what I disliked about this. I must remind you that I have only seen GINO therefore, I cannot speak as a "true die-hard G-fan", but I hope you take my opinion in consideration at least as someone who is more than an average moviegoer and that has high hopes about this movie, so, please comment if you either agree with me, or if you think that this soundtrack is what you want/expect to be on a Godzilla movie.
As a former brass instrument player all I can say is holy crap some of those runs sound challenging to play
The instrumentation does not seem to match how Desplate described it would be, nor does it match the instrumentation of the music on the Godzilla website.
It seems to be in a different key, and it was more 'traditional' sounding with the brass/violen parts. It definitely was not as percussive or synthesized as I how it has previously been portrayed.
I'm not saying it's bad or that its fake. I'm just saying I'm a little skeptical because the two music samples we have heard do not fit. It's as if two completely different composers/orchestras/sound editors worked on each piece. Which sure, some movies have really disjointed music like that. But that's more the exception than the rule.
To those who are claiming that it doesn't fit the mood of the movie: How do you know? Have you seen it?
A score is written to be a companion to the visuals and strengthen scenes. We don't know what is going to be going on while this music plays and I doubt Desplat, of all composers, is going to compose something that doesn't fit.
Even the original 1954 Godzilla didn't have "dark" "grim" music all the way through. Just chill and enjoy the music we have. It fits the genre and I can see it working with a lot of other Godzilla movies as well-- which means this is being treated like a Godzilla movie. How is that a bad thing?
So far, I like the music that is going with this movie. We only heard a small piece of what's to come and I'm very excited to hear the rest of the music.
The two pieces that we heard are very different, I agree. The website music sounds like it fits on a dvd menu and this one sounds like it would be a pretty good intro song.
@Gman2887
i don't think youve had to have seen it to understand that the director said MULTIPLE times in multiple interviews, and with multiple teasers and footage, that it was going for dark and serious. It's been bludgeoned into our heads, this will go back to the roots of the dark and serious tones Godzilla 1954 was in.
You don't even need to see the movie to know this basic premise. And have you taken a listen to the 1954 track recently? It WAS dark throughout because it wasn't as "energetic" or "high energy" as this one track. Listen to all the tracks and tell me it's not dark throughout, because it absolutely is (with the exception of the military march):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWdhv7CgHI
It was more subtle and that's what made it that way. Look, I've rethought it and MAYBE this specific track is just for the 1954 scene, which would probably fit better. Just like how only 1 track from the soundtrack of 1954 was a bit lighter (the military march) because it was for a certain scene.
Again, maybe this track from fandango is for that scene, but if it's not then meh whatever, I wouldn't be a fan but I can live with it. And is there something wrong with NOT liking it? Last time I checked I wasn't bashing anyone for LIKING this track.
For me, it is amazing. I don't know why but nearly in the beggining, it sounds like the Jurassic Park theme song. Just my opinion.
You know, I can actually sorta imagine this taking place in the airport scene. It could play over the shots of the Muto destroying planes and killing people. Then the final portion can play over that one shot of the chain reaction explosions before the track ends right when Godzilla's foot comes into view.
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@Junkerde
Knowing the tone of the movie is different from scoring the individual scenes. Jaws was a fairly horrific movie itself, but Williams' score was the epitome of energetic until Star Wars. Funny as Godzilla has also been compared to Jaws by the creators as well, no?
And no, from the three different versions of Ifukube's original score I currently own I can honestly say it was not dark "throughout". I'll repeat, "Godzilla didn't have "dark" "grim" music all the way through." Unless, of course, you consider these tracks to be dark, brooding lacking energy:
And two of those themes reprise with variation more than most. You might be able to make a case for "dark" and "brooding" for Stormy Ootojima Island, but it still spirals into a piece no less energetic than the supposed Desplat piece that's been posted.
I also didn't say there was anything wrong with not liking it, last time I checked I wasn't bashing anyone for it either. However, I don't understand how fans can say it "doesn't fit" when they have no idea what the scene in question is and what kind of music it calls for.
Regardless, I'm going to call a spade a spade and a heart a heart. The music on its own is extremely well composed and well realized to my ears. Whether it fits or not has yet to be seen, but I'd trust Desplat's judgment over anyone on this forum.
Of course there's always the chance it isn't Desplat's work, in which case it's a solid piece unrelated to the franchise.
I'm not trying to say it doesn't fit the tone of the movie.
I'm trying to say it doesn't fit the 1 minute clip playing on the website.
I know thhe two don't have to be identical, and maybe I've gotten spoiled by John Williams and Hans Zimmer, but all of their various songs n' themes within a movie will have noticeable similarities even though the songs themselves are of course different.
This new Fandango clip, and what they are playing on the official movie website, lack such similarity with each other. Each one would make a great addition to any dark movie score. But they just don't sound like they are from the same movie score as far as I'm hearing it.
@gman2887
ok but your initial question was on how we knew if it would fit the movie's "mood" not a specific "scene" so now it's a different issue, which I addressed below in my comment about specific "scenes" in play. Also they say it's similar to Jaws in how Godzilla is hidden, which is only one element so we can't conclude it somehow borrows all the other elements of the movie.
I consider both the marches lighter in mood but again, we probably run into a more "opinianted" thing here because "desperate broadcast" and the "story" tracks sounded darker for me. And then again I explained myself on the whole specific scene in my post, we basically have the same idea about that, but the question was about the overall "mood" of the movie initially so maybe things were lost in translation.
Again like I said, I'm not a fan of it but I accept it and that it will do the job.
If this is indeed the 'opening theme' for Godzilla 2014, my initial thought was that it sounded remisniscent of Godzilla 1998's theme. Certainly not a good choice if you ask me, and hopefully this really isn't the opening theme for the new movie cos even the 98 theme sounds more 'epic' to me than the new one.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
@Junkerde
Considering it is the scenes of this movie that ultimately make up the mood, the subject isn't far off. Desplat is obviously working with Edwards on this movie and the director/composer relationship is deciding what scenes need music and what kind of music. It may be safer to assume that Desplat's choices fit the 'mood' of the film just fine-- unless there's a complete lack of communication between Edwards and Desplat, (ala, Kitamura and Emerson on Final Wars) which is unlikely considering Edwards' work ethic. I trust that the music fits the supposed "mood" just fine.
@Destroyah-X
At the expense of sounding bias in my hatred for GINO, I've always found the '98 music to be a boring retread on the alien's main theme from Independence Day. Epic as it is, there's nothing there I found to be overtly interesting, musically. I find the sudden shifts in structure with the posted track to be much more interesting and unique.