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The future of modern kaiju

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Kyorah16

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-24-2014 11:26 AM

If the latest Godzilla proves a huge success, what effect do you think it will have on the fututre of kaiju films around the world? 

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Huge-Ben

MemberBaragonMar-24-2014 12:43 PM

this movie is going to be a huge blockbuster take a look at all of the films legendary have done in the past 300, the dark knight trilogy, pacific rim. this will have a very huge effect on people too many of them out there know the name godzilla and will spend their hard earned money on the ticket to watch it :) this movie will do justice for us the diehard fans and will give the critiques a movie that they can talk about for the rest of the year, it will not flop :)

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Lewshizz

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-24-2014 1:07 PM

You put future and modern together...

modern = now

future. = later

all in all the kaiju genere I'm sure will continue to truck along. Possibly get to carried away with size though.

this new godzilla is 3x bigger than every other godzilla...

~TheLoon

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-24-2014 1:11 PM

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dopepope

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-24-2014 3:13 PM

We can probably see Gamera make himself relevant again because of this. Which means a new monster or two for him to fight! That alone make me happy. Maybe a totally new hero monster in Japan will emerge. Or a Japanese revivial of the series with a new foe! 

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G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-24-2014 3:33 PM

If it's a success I imagine we'll see a slight resergence in that actual kaiju genre in Japan and the toku style of filmmaking.

Already, Gamera is prepping for another movie both for it's 50th anniversary and in anticipation of the new Godzilla. The new Kikaider looks pretty spectacular as well-- Although Sentai and Kamen Rider is still alive and kicking, this new Kikaider looks like a whole different beast compared to those.

Ultraman Victory is rumored as well, so hopfully the Ultra series will continue and rebound after the awful Ultraman Ginga.

In America it might get other imitators rolling as well as studios fast tracking sequels to Cloverfield and Pacific Rim.

But all of this is the best case scenerio. If it flops we'll see the exact opposite. Projects will most likely be shelved and I wouldn't expect another Godzilla movie for a good two decades or more.

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Something Real

MemberGodzillaMar-24-2014 5:34 PM
I've a feeling we'll not see a great impact. Godzilla is a powerful act to follow; everyone knows he's the first name in Kaiju films. Ergo we'll likely see the same amount of progress in the giant monster franchises around the world. That being said, I hope Godzilla (2014) will breathe new life into the excitment we all share for kaiju films.

Godzillatheking123

MemberBaragonMar-25-2014 2:23 AM

Let's cut to the chase. All this talk about the future of modern kaiju hinges on one central fact, how it will do at the box office. How much does the studio think this movie should make to consider it a success? For all the critical panning the 98' movie received, in terms of box offce take, it was actually not too bad. But evidently not good enough for the studio (Sony) since they pass on the chance to make a sequel. 

Godzillatheking123

MemberBaragonMar-25-2014 2:32 AM

GMAN2887-Since you mentioned Kamen Rider and Ultraman, another tokusatsu hero I want to see (in live action) is Guyver (well actually I suppose he is more of a manga hero). The first American Guyver film was atrocious and simply unwatchable. However, the relatively little known American sequel, Guyver: Dark Hero (also in live action as opposed to anime) was actually quite entertaining, darker and far superior to its predecessor. It won't win an Oscar, but for its budget, the film was pretty satisfying.

If I'm not mistaken, it was directed by Steve Wang, better known as the make-up artist for flicks such as Predator and Aliens. I read in an interview that Wang was a huge fan of Ultraman and other Tokusatsu heroes. If there will ever be another live action attempt for Guyver, Steve Wang should be the one directing it. 

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-25-2014 10:29 AM

@GodzillaTheKing123

For the most part it wasn't the boxoffice that killed GINO in 1998, it was critical and fan reaction. Fans hated it, Sony knows this. Critics hated it just as much, Sony knows this. Making a sequel would've been asking for a much bigger disaster.

For the new one to be a success, two things need to happen, objetively and subjectively: Most movies need to make double their budget to break even. So if Godzilla cost $160 million, it needs $320 million world wide to make it's money back. To be considered a hit, it probably needs to make somewhere between $400-$500 million world wide. The other thing is, and Gareth has said this himself a few times, people need to like it.

As for Guyver, I agree completely. I'm not a fan of the first film, but Guyver: Dark Hero is a low-budget, sci-fi gem heavily inspired by the toku style. I love that movie quite a bit and always wished for a third one. I'd be more interested in seeing someone else take the helm of Guyver for a change, but I'm of the opinion another live action adaptation needs to happen soon. Guyver: Dark Hero was badass though.

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RF

MemberMothra LarvaeMar-25-2014 4:19 PM

If G2014 is a success, we will see another American-made Godzilla movie, with probably another Toho monster (to introduce to the general American audience). All CGI, no suits.

 

I seriously doubt we'll see many world-protecting kaiju, at least from Hollywood. Those don't sell well.

Godzillatheking123

MemberBaragonMar-25-2014 7:17 PM

GMAN2887-True, I guess Sony figure out there won't be "repeat customers" for any '98 sequel. Although I suppose that hasn't stop other studios. The Transformers franchise never enjoyed particularly good reviews (to put it mildly) but that hasn't stop them from churning out one sequel after another. Of course, one big difference is box office take. If the '98 box office was just "ok", the Transformers box office was way up there in the stratosphere.

Also, glad to know another Guyver admirer here. I really wish for another live-action Guyver too (decently-made of course). Steve Wang has the talent and understands this genre, all he needs is another opportunity to make a new Guyver movie, preferably with a bigger budget this time around.

G. H. (Gman)

AdminGodzillaMar-26-2014 1:09 AM

@GodzillatheKing123

The difference the new Transformers movies actually have fans. It may not be critics that like them, but it's won over this generation of kids and young adults easily. GINO was pretty much universally hated at the time. The few fans that it did make are only recently old enough to speak up about it on boards like these. They would be too little to support it anyway, but it's still far too late.

I think the genius of Wang was everything he was able to pull off with a minimum budget. He understands it and it's fantastic, but at this point I'd like to see someone else's take on the material. At one point Shusuke Kaneko was planning a live action Guyver movie, but it didn't get very far in pre-production. So he used some his action ideas for Gamera instead. (Notice Gamera's chest weapon is very similar to Guyver's.)

"'Nostalgic' does not equal 'good,' and 'standards' does not equal 'elitism.'" "Being offended is inevitable. Living offended is your choice."

Godzillatheking123

MemberBaragonMar-26-2014 6:26 AM

Hmmm...I suppose. Although I've spoken to some of the old school G1 transformer fans and they weren't crazy about the Michael Bay films. But I guess they are in the minority in terms of fandom. I wouldn't call myself a hardcore Transformer fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I did remember watching G1 cartoons as a little kid and I'm not thrilled with the Bay films. Maybe its a generational thing. 

As for Wang, the thing is, I'm not sure if there is anyone else who can make a decent Guyver film apart from him, for a new American version anyway. The mentality of most US producers is to treat this genre as some sad power ranger-style joke, they don't do justice to the source material. 

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