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if godzilla were to die in the new series

dinoboy22

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if godzilla were to die near the end of new series how would want him to die? obviously we dont want another zilla incident. so what would be the most respectful way to put an end to his reign?

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Durp004
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Yes humans should ultimately be the ones to stop him. He may represent a mistake in the first one but as the series progresses, which it hopefully will, would the characters and society as a whole not learn from that mistake? The ultimate way to rectify that mistake is for the humans to be the ones to conquer him. 

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@LinkZilla That would be an instant box office success for the 3rd Godzilla movie's ending. That idea would be perfect.

"By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill that promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people."

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well the oxygen destroyer is scientificaly imposible so we can exactly use that. and godzillafan1995 nobody said we want godzilla to die. this all hypothetical. we have no idea if he dies. i just wanted to see what ideas the community would have to respectfully kill him if garreth decided to go that route in the future

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@DINOBOY22 alright, im sorry, i got a bit over the top and aggresive, its just  the fact that people suggest what will kill him from nukes to destoryah, sorry guys if i was a bit mean.

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its okay dude. i dont think destroyah will be in any of the new movies anyway. id rather have something more iconic

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@ JORDANSWICKARD - A nuclear blast would kill Godzilla plain and simple. He feeds on radiation, but what you're forgetting is that as a mortal creature his body has limits to the amount of power it can absorb safely before it overwhelms him and kills him.

A nuclear blast would kill him regardless of whether or not he feeds on radiation. As I've said so many times before, radiation doesn't just do what you want it to. A blast as powerful as a nuclear bomb would overload even his capacity and kill him on the spot even if the initial blast didn't.

Why?

Was Godzilla at ground zero during the dropping of the nukes? No, he wasn't. He was exposed to minute fractions of the overall radiation output of the nuke, and thus he was created from a much weaker level than many people give him credit for. As such, his capacity will be much lower than many people give him credit for which is why when Godzilla moves about you don't hear about long lasting radiation levels in any movie aside from the original and Godzilla vs. Mothra. His radiation levels are not at a level which would immediately kill anyone, as proven by the fact that Dr. Yamane and others were able to walk through Godzilla's footsteps and survive just fine through to the end of the movie without any visible consequence.

The amount of radiation a nuke puts out, especially at ground zero, would be far too much for Godzilla's body to handle.

Long story short, it would kill him. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Even taking in his ability to absorb radiation, it wouldn't save him. A nuke does not equal more energy for Godzilla. It equals death.

@ LINKZILLA - I don't mean to sound aggressive or mean in any way, but... Are you kidding with that explanation? Godzilla's body is not a nuclear bomb. Even if Godzilla were to go out with a bang, it wouldn't equal the force of a nuclear explosion for the same reasons why he wouldn't survive a nuke in the first place. He was created by radiation levels that were MUCH lower than the levels a nuke is actually capable of producing initially. The power of a nuclear bomb goes far beyond Godzilla, and even if his body were to explode for any reason, it would not be a nuclear blast. Not even close.

As for the actual topic at hand.

If Godzilla does die anywhere in the series, it's not going to be from an oxygen destroyer because that's pure fantasy and doesn't fit the realism of Legendary's vision. It likely won't be at the hands of a nuke either, as the world's governments are too cowardly to use them now that they know what they can do after dropping them on Japan. You think the US government, even if it's a movie, would have the gall to drop one on their own soil just to try and take care of Godzilla when they don't know if it would work or not? Not a chance.

If Godzilla does die, it'll have to be at the hands of either another monster or by his own power turning against him like it did in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah.

Godzilla is being portrayed and likened to a force of nature. He is not actually a force of nature, contrary to popular opinion. Anyone who's arguing that he needs to be stopped by another force of nature because 'he is a force of nature' is only fooling themselves and basing their opinion off of misinterpretation and miscommunication which are the two primary sources of all the false rumors and predictions we've seen throughout the last few years leading up to the release of this movie (and any kind of rumor anywhere about anything really).

In short the most likely reasons for Godzill'a death will be the forces which created him in the first place: Radiation.

Radiation is a force which is naturally degrading into nothing over a very long period of time due to the fact that it's unstable. It cannot sustain itself, and if an unstable force like radiation is the source of Godzilla's power, guess what that means for the Big-G? Godzilla vs. Destoroyah went a little overboard and delved into fantasy with the critical mass thing, but they had the basic concept correct. Godzilla's own power will inevitably be his downfall eventually if nothing else destroys him first.

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You know, if a black hole gun can't kill him what makes you think a nuke would? If it could why didn't they already try it? Sure America may change that, but until I see it, I stand corrected

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yea radiation can do what ever it wants, but godzilla is completly fictional, the writers can do what ever they want with him, godzilla can never exist, they can make some features realistic because it may make it better but too much realism is not necessary, i dought they will kill him with a nuke, also one nuke's radiation is not going to cause godzilla to go critical, in GvsD the island that godzilla and godzilla jr were on had uranium depsoits under the island, there must have been a lot as the entire island was destoryed proably more than the power of modern nukes as godzilla did survive. again scientific logic does not work with godzilla, no matter how realistic you want him, he is pure fiction, TOHO knew this thats why they had humans use ultra -futreistic and totally impossible weapons weaponry like: the oxygen destoryer, mechagodzilla, masers and laser tanks, freezer weapons, nuclear feeding bacteria, and the blackhole gun. the black hole from the dimension tide may not have been as powerful as a real black hole but it was powerful enough to cause a nuke sized crater. also that meteor explosion from FW did hit godzilla because 1. godzilla was in the centre of a huge crater, even if he wasn't in the actaul explosion it was a big explosion and the didn't get affected by the shockwave.

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My personal opinion, Godzilla's meltdown is probably his most disrespectful death. Its lonesome, its boring, and its just sappy.

 

I don't understand the love of seeing Godzilla go all wicked witch.

 

I'd much rather see him explode-- but that is just me.

 

And as far as Godzilla dieing, he never dies anyway, so why does it matter? He always comes back or theres some kind of hint at the end of the film that he isn't the 'only one'. So I really don't think its an issue.

 

As far as Godzilla survivng a nuke, if we are talking Godzilla in general, he has survived an asteroid strike, swam through magma, and so on and so forth.

 

Godzilla's death has always been superficial, or done away with in sequels. Its not anything to worry about, I can honestly say the first film was the only time I think they really, genuinely wanted him dead-- until the cash flowed in and they made a sequel.

So in the end, the all mighty dollar is the ultimate Godzilla fuel and it'll decide if he 'dies' or not. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.
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symbolically in GvsD godzilla never dies, because if one godzilla does die anouther takes it's place, when 1954 godzilla dies he was replaced (although 30 years later in the Heisei godzilla's case) by a new godzilla, when heisei godzilla died in his meltdown he was replaced by his son, who was revived by the 'enormous' radiation emmited by his farther and was able to continue his legacy. if godzilla does die then it should end 1. humanity finally learns their mistakes and lessons and improve the way they treat the earth to avoid creating more monstrocities or 2. godzilla died but anouther godzilla comes along to contnue his legacy and continue punishing humanity.

again really the writers,producers and directors make the decide, they decide if godzilla can or cannot survive a nuke(ground zero explosion or outside the explosion) they decide if humans have any capability to comabt godzilla, they decide if godzilla can go critical if he absorbs too much nuclear energy, they decide if he can even bleed. thats the power writers,producers and directors have when it comes to completly fictional chacters like godzilla, spideman, the xmen, hulk and other fictional charcters.

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@AKAGI

"I don't understand the love of seeing Godzilla go all wicked witch. I'd much rather see him explode-- but that is just me."

I might be remembering this wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the way Godzilla's meltdown worked was that he would start to melt from the heat inside his body, but when his body was too damaged to contain his energy, he would've exploded with incredible force, which the JSDF managed to prevent by freezing him to keep his energy levels relatively low. I'm not sure how he could've destroyed the Earth by simply melting.

And as for Kyero, I'm getting really sick of your arrogant attitude, and I would love to prove why you're wrong about the subject of whether Godzilla could survive a nuke, but I have a feeling that, like I've seen on several other threads, you won't come back here to see people disprove your so-called "facts." Maybe I'll make a separate thread on the topic and see if you go there to try and debunk my argument.

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@Linkzilla

 

I know he was suppose to explode-- and to me that was far more interesting. At least it goes more with the whole "bomb metaphor' that everyone loves. Melting just didn't do it for me. Everything about Godzilla is spectacle, and personally-- I think melting is more eighties gore movie spectacle than bad-ass explosion.

I think Godzilla really got screwed in Destroyer, its one of my least favorite movies. He has no 'victory' or moment of 'screw you humans' like he needed, they really pushed the 'tragic monster angle' hardcore, and its fine in small doses, but I felt like it was shoved down my throat the whole film. 

I wanted to see him grab the murderer of his son, hold him there, and start to meltdown with Destroyer in his grasp-- not have the military take 'er out. For me, that movie just missed too many opportunities...

But then again, in my opinion, all films meant to 'end a franchise' usually suck. I'm talking long winded franchises, like Godzilla, not final films in trilogies. 

He is 350ft Tall people, those things on his neck ARE gills, and the Brazil photo is part of the final advertising design-- Deal with it.
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well not everybody loves a touchy feely ending, i personally dont mind at all. infact i prefer it. i want to feel sorry for him. kind of like davy jones in pirates of the carribean 

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well in the end of GvsD godzilla does win in a sense, his son is resserrected and will continue his farther's legecy. although i'd wished godzilla was the one to kill destroyah instead of the humans.

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Yeah, that is the one really big problem I have with that movie (it's my favorite overall, though), especially because it originaly actually did end with Godzilla killing Destoroyah- in fact, it happened pretty much exactly as you described, with Godzilla holding Destoroyah in his grasp as he started to meltdown- but they decided to change it because they wanted Godzilla to have center stage as he died. You can watch it on Youtube by searching "Godzilla vs Destoroyah alternate ending," it's actually fully edited aside from the SFX. I still can't figure out why they couldn't edit it so that he kills Destoroyah and then has his death scene, so that they could give both Godzilla and Destoroyah a respectful death.

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