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Cryolophosaurus

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 8:48 PM

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" It is better to be reviled than ignored, agleast then you know your spreading good in this world." 

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Akio123

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 10:41 PM

Hm, I see your point. Then again, the angle, and perspective really take part in our assumptions. The thing is, we may not know how tall Godzilla is until May(Considering there will be a book). Maybe even sooner, but at the moment, I believe it is hard to say so. As fans waiting for the movie we have no direct info or proof. The closest we have to "proof" is that article, and even then it wasn't an official statement.

Personally, I find it hard to believe that this Godzilla is 350 feet tall. Hell, I could be wrong. Until I hear or read a statement either from Legendary/Warner Bros or Gareth Edwards himself, I won't take any assumptions about his size into consideration. I say this respectfully. Plus, I mean...it's not even like the article said, "351, 356" or whatever. It was DEAD CENTER 350'. EXACT. Lol. I only take that with a grain of salt. Then again, to believe Godzilla is over 400ft is rather sketchy because Gareth said he'd be the tallest by only a little. I guess we'll have to wait.

It took some time, but honestly after a good amount of thought..it really does not matter how tall Godzilla is. You know? So many people want his height to be absurd and or compete with the height of the monsters from Pacific Rim. The thing is, this is NOT Pacific Rim. It's Godzilla. They're different stories in different universes. We should except each as its own. No matter what, Godzilla is still the character that has been around for 60 years. He's still one of the original cinema behemoths. He's still the unbeatable King of the Monsters. Of course I'd love a 800 ft Godzilla over a 180 ft one anyday. However, as long as I get a Godzilla remeniscent to the original, I'll be happy. 

Cryolophosaurus

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 10:52 PM

well its not about perspective its about the logic of the HALO jump itself if Godzilla were say 350' to 450' most of those jumpers are dead and the others would suffer serious injury from the impact so perspective has nothing to do with it.

" It is better to be reviled than ignored, agleast then you know your spreading good in this world." 

Linkzilla

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 11:06 PM

I seriously doubt that the filmmakers actually took into account the minimum height at which people can open their parachutes OR the actual heights of specific buildings in San Fran when making Godzilla's scenes. People seem to forget that, even in the original film, where the sets were painstakingly recreated from real Tokyo locations, there were some mistakes and inconsistencies in Godzilla's size compared to the buildings, and the makers of this film almost certainly don't care that much about accurately representing his size. There is no "proof" that he is around 600', nor is there any reason to believe he will be such a ridiculous size. The director flat-out stated that he will only be the largest by a bit, so he will only be the largest by a bit, period. Can we please stop making discussions about Godzilla's height now?

Joe Fixit

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 11:26 PM

Ill just say that he will most likely between 350-450 feet. Until we get an official statement which I doubt they will until movie release date to keep us fans guessing all we have to go back on is Edward's statement of Godzilla being tallest and slightly above the height of Godzilla at his peak of power which was Final Wars I believe.

Cryolophosaurus

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 11:43 PM

Acctualy the tallest Godzilla before this movie would have been the marvel Godzilla who was around 475'to 500' so yes iv already heard hes gonna be a bit taller so 550' or 600' is acctyualy accurate to everything that has been released up till this point.

" It is better to be reviled than ignored, agleast then you know your spreading good in this world." 

Kyero

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-22-2014 11:53 PM

The problem with this theory of yours, VALKORIN, is that while it conforms to modern day specifics for a HALO jump and the precautions that real soldiers take during its execution, you have to remember that this is a movie. They're going for a realistic feel for Godzilla and a realistic take on the human reaction. However, even in a movie like this, they can open the soldier's chutes at whatever height they want and have them come out okay because movie physics are seldom accurate to real life. They might be going for realism in the tone of the movie, but they never said that they'd be exact to every tiny eetail about what their characters go through as far as physical activity.

Again, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why Godzilla will not break 400 feet.

The facts that prove contrary to your theory are as follows:

* Gareth Edwards interview with IGN confirms that Godzilla will be minimally taller than the tallest incarnation on film which is the Heisei version standing at 100 meters or 328 feet.

* If Godzilla were the same height as teh 555 building (779') he would have been visible during the opening wide shot of the city when the soldiers are falling. At such a height, there is no way for him to not be visible from anywhere in the city due to it's small size at 49 square miles, or 7x7 miles (roughly).

* It was expalined multiple times during early development that he'd be bigger than ever, but still small enough to 'hide' within the skyscrapers.

* The Godzilla encounter footage didn't show the final creature design from a physical appearance standpoint, but it did show his final height at 35 stories tall.

* 35 stories is, by modern American architectural design specifications, around a height of around 355 feet.

Coincidence?

* Geographically, the 555 building rests at the base of an elevational rise and is only 36 ft above sea level.

* I can now confirm, after critically examining the trailer and comparing it to both street maps and geographical maps of San Francisco, that Godzilla was on a rise/steep by comparing the orientation of the 555 building itself to Godzilla and other larger buildings in the walking shot during the trailer. By analyzing and comparing the locations, shapes, and relative heights of these structures surrounding both Godzilla and the 555 building, I can say with relative confidence that Godzilla's walking path in the trailer was roughly through the general areas of Powell St., Mason St., and Taylor St.

* Powell St. is the closest to the 555 building, and is about 1000 feet away which means that Godzilla is much farther away than he appears at first glance thanks to lighting and camera angle. Also, Godzilla is walking on a rise/steep given that geographical distance and difference of those streets relative to the 555 building's location which makes him stand taller than normal against the 555 building itself which is why he almost appears to stand even with it. He's farther above sea level than the 555 building.

Those are the facts.

How tall is that particular steep area I mentioned? I honestly don't know because I can't find any information on the different elevations throughout the city which can accurately measure the changes from street to street across the city. I tried checking different geo maps, but they didn't give me readings either that were accurately measurable which is why I'm not posting claims about the difference. If you can track down that specific information, then do so because as much as I want to, I've been unable to. If you find the elevation of these streets as they get closer to California Street, you'll be able to tell just how much higher above sea level Godzilla is standing versus the 555 building.

Regardless, the fact remains that we have confirmation (and have had for some time now) that Godzilla is minimally taller than the Heisei incarnation from Director Gareth Edwards himself, but we also have the proof in the trailer itself that Godzilla is walking along one of the rises/steeps in San Francisco's constantly changing geographical elevation. Again, it's a small city, but it's got a HUGE number of elevational changes if you've never been there to see them or haven't checked a geographical map of it. Driving throuh it is quite the trip.

We can argue the logic of the HALO jump and (for lack of a nicer phrase) b*tch and moan about the whole 'standing level with the 555 building in the trailer', but the facts remain the same.

The trailer was meant to showcase Godzilla and tease both him and the tone and scope of the movie, which is what a trailer is meant to do. Was Godzilla's size accurately depicted for us with absolute precision? Not at all. Forced perspective and clever camera angles and lighting (as well as San Fran's wonderful geography) made sure of that. Anyone and everyone who says he's level with the 555 building I can confirm is wrong with absolute confidence, and when the movie comes out I guarantee they won't have anything to say to those who ask them "what happened to your 779' estimation?" In fact, many of them might try to deny having made such an estimation, but the posts they've made don't lie (so long as they don't delete them of course).

When making examinations and making speculation based on real facts and data such as I have done, it helps to do the research and think logically rather than rely solely on what your eyes tell you. Taking fats and real data into account first and then trusting your eyes makes for much more accurate and reliable speculatoin and expectations.

The human eye is very easily fooled, as is proven by the 779' theory even existing in the first place, as well as any and all optical illusions you may be familiar with. We can argue about it, or we can accept the reality that Gareth Edwards has made a Godzilla that is only minimally taller than the 328 ft. mark as he openly admitted to on live television. He even exclaimed that he's a size for a certain reason and that making him too big *cough* 779' *cough* would take away the story telling and the ability of the movie crew and animation team to really have fun with him and make him believable within the scope of suspending out disbelief that such a creature could even exist.

I'll say it one final time, I can say with confidence that I trust the 350 ft. even though I'll give or take 20-40 feet for however much Godzilla leans forward or straightens when walking or standing for balance/attacking purposes. But again, given the real data such as San Frans elevation in combination with modern American architecture design rules and floor plans, I can say with confidence that 350 is just about right for Godzilla's size.

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-23-2014 12:09 AM

I can't be the only person to realize that San Francisco has about a thousand feet difference in elevation extremes.  Even in close proximity the elevation can change drastically. If everyone is so sure that the building is like 800 ft tall, it's more than probably that Godzilla is on a more elevated part of San Francisco. Even if that's not the building, it's possible that the building is maybe 350 ft approximately. Also, if you notice, Godzilla is not right next to the building, maybe a few hundred feet away, which only further increases the chance that Godzilla could be standing on a more elevated area. San Francisco is not a flat city. It doesn't stay have that consistent elevation, it's extremely varied. It's one of those cities that you can drive for about ten seconds and be about five hundred feet lower than when you started.

 

I'm very surprised no one had mentioned that to further discredit Godzilla's height being something way above what was said "just a bit bigger, like putting an antenna on a building to make it bigger". Because two hundred to eight hundred feet more is just  "a bit bigger".

BCrockett94

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-23-2014 12:12 AM

lmao nevermind, someone just before I commented had mentioned the elevation differences.

GODZILLA HIMSELF

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-23-2014 1:57 AM

@valkorin, finally! someone else remembers the marvel godzilla!

any way, i would definietly agree that he may be 5-600 feet in height. it depends of course, on if gareth edwards actually took that goji into consideration, if he did than godzill would have to be somewhere above 500 feet, if not then 5-600 feet might be a bit big. also, you may notice that the whole 350 feet thing wasn't in any quotes, it was just something in the article used to describe godzilla.  and 350 sounds like a very rounded number, especially if you are rounding up from the heisi godzilla height. in the end of course, we really can only speculate about godzillas heigt at this point in time, even the trailer, because of the angle and distance, can't really be used as an accurate way to tell godzillas true heigt.

 

king of the monsters

Durp004

MemberBaragonJan-23-2014 2:17 AM

There are literally about 10 posts of this with every 1 consisting of almost the same argument. Can't we just give it are rest at this point till concrete evidence comes up to put a number besides it? 

egdufff

MemberMothra LarvaeJan-23-2014 7:26 AM

i agree DURPOO4

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