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What's this crap about this being the "Final Installment in the Monsterverse Quadrilogy"? Whoever wrote this needs to slow their roll, we have no idea what's gonna happen after 2020. Stop declaring the Monsterverse dead before its 2 biggest movies have their shot at the box office. With GKotM's trailers being so incredible, who knows, it, GvsK, or both could become a phenomenon, make $750M to a billion at the box office, and sell a metric f**k-ton of merchandise. If anything close to that happens, or they both just make the $400M to $500M the first two made, then Warner Bros will make more. Toho might be doing their shared universe once the deal ends, but they'll still make deals with WB if they make good money off of these two. So, a deal maybe struck where we will see less Godzilla, or just after a certain time period. Or possibly they(WB) create a MechaGodzilla and use Toho monsters that Toho has no plans for, as well as original kaiju, and between them, Mecha, & Kong, we may not see Godzilla himself return till a few movies later in a DestroyAllMonsters-like film. I'm just spit-balling here but either way, if the next 2 succeed, there will be a new deal, and we will see more Monsterverse. WB won't let a cash cow slip thru their fingers bc of rights. They are huge by comparison to Toho, and money talks, and it's all just free money to Toho, only costing them shifts to their development & release schedule. I personally hope the Monsterverse goes the Monarch MechaGodzilla route next, followed by a Kong sequel, to give Toho their chance to get their shared universe off the ground. Then depending on how those do, who knows what could happen? Then I think we actually could have a problem between Toho & WB and see a final film come about, or the Toho films only come out on video in America. But Toho can make their movies a lot faster, so hopefully they'll just be able to work around each other's schedules. This went on way too long, but the main point is wait and see, don't declare the Monsterverse dead yet. If GKotM is terrible and performs badly, then we can talk.
I agree, it's Total Trash. It commits the biggest sin movies can commit, it's incredibly boring. I haven't read the prequel Monster Apocalypse, but it sounds much more like what people would've wanted. I'm all for doing something different, Shin being a good example, but it has to either tell a really good story, or just a decent one, supplemented by some awesome monster battles and fan service/appearances. This series promised the latter while hyping the 1st one's release, only for us to find out all those monsters & their big story, was just the set up to only be mentioned in the actual movie. That is not a good way to start a series. All would've been forgiven if it was good, but the story, and everything else, was just total garbage. I had a lot more to say about them, specifically criticizing each in great detail, right after I watched them, but I got it all out and tried to block them from my memory. Plus I'm sure you don't want to read all that. I'm not sure which side of the fence the OP falls on, or if he hasn't seen them, but suffice it to say, I was VERY disappointed, and I'm REALLY not hard to please.
Ideal Fantasy Scenario: Godzilla and Kong fight a bit then team up to the beat the crap out of Gamera. There are no human characters.
Best Realistic Scenario: Godzilla and Kong fight a bit then team up to fight Mecha-King Ghidorah. Human characters are mainly superfluous.
He'll grab him by the tail(s) and throw him back into outer space
King Kong ain't got shit on Godzilla no matter how big he gets. Granted Kong is a mighty kaiju but in the end he will beg to kneel before our holy majesty God Lizard! Godzilla is gonna kick Kong's ass! Godzilla is King!
Still enjoy it because it was my very first introduction to Godzilla, and the added scenes are not too intrusive. Although Gojira is a much better film, I continue to have a soft spot for GKOTM.
Fantastic representation of one of my top 5 favorite suits. Keep 'em coming, Bandai.
Yep, he's definitely big enough to fight Godzilla lol I don't know if i'm sold yet on the title "Godzilla vs Kong". Just doesn't sound as good as King Kong vs Godzilla, but oh well. A title is just a title.
If only Trendmasters was still around...
"But Kong is too small to fight Godzilla." *cries*
I side with EmptyH here.
It's not bad and it's a fairly entertaining Western perspective. Besides, this is the version that got Godzilla some form of international fame. It must've done something right.
Admittedly I don't go back to it much. The 1954 version just gives me more to chew and I typically find something new to love about it on repeat viewings.
That is really great. He did an awesome job and I am a little jelly of that cool thing you now have.
Hey, I can actually answer this in audio form, as my podcast has already covered this episode.
https://giantmonstermessages.com/2017/06/07/gmm-godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-1956/
But I also agree with you that it's not bad. I find it an interesting look from an American viewpoint. Unlike later American "remakes" this one actually adds a lot of new scenes and tries hard to make it believable.
Kong looks like he could kick Godzilla's @$$. Wow... He clearly has an advantage over Godzilla.
I think Kong is a bit shorter than Godzilla, and is on the top of something or jumping. I'm definitely not complaining though, as I wanted Kong to be a bit shorter than Godzilla (I wanted him to be 312 feet tall to be exact), and he looks pretty similar to the size I imagined him to be as an adult.
I just ordered the 12"2014 NECA - that has sound, though I dunno how "good" it is
Thanks for your response!
I don't really think that Kong is gonna team up with Godzilla in 2020 to fight Ghidorah again. If you didn't know already, Mike Dougherty tweeted a picture of the Oxygen Destroyer. Long story short, people are thinking that Destoroyah is going to appear as the main villain in the film, and after fighting each other already, Godzilla and Kong will team up to fight Destroyah.
TheGMan123: It seems more likely that something like that would happen. Godzilla (As far as I know) stands at only 108 meters. Ghidorah, however, is 50 meters taller, standing at 158 meters. Godzilla is more or less at the height disadvantage against Ghidorah, not to mention that Ghidorah has 3 separate heads with different personalities, as well as his iconic Gravity Beams and creating a huge electrical storm whenever he flies. We don't exactly know how Ghidorah will actually behave like in the movie, and the only thing that we see is him wanting to destroy as much as he possibly can; I'm saying that we only see his aggressive personalities in the clips from the second trailer. SPOILER ALERT: A person who has already seen the test screening of the movie says that when Godzilla and Ghidorah have their first fight, the military uses a weapon called the "Oxygenator" It's pretty much the modern-day Oxygen Destroyer. The damage that is done to the two fighting Kaiju (Or Titans, whatever) is unbalanced. Godzilla is badly injured from the weapon, while Ghidorah is unscathed. If this happens towards the start of the movie, it may show Godzilla slowly recovering throughout the movie. When the final fight begins, Godzilla may be weaker than he was when he first fought Ghidorah, ultimately leading to a possible burst of power from either Mothra or Rodan.
I'm pretty sure the only other toy is the S.H. Monsterarts Kou Kyou Kyouko Godzilla, or BioGoji, which was the Godzilla that fought Biollante in '89. It plays music, has a few roars, and has an atomic breath sound effect. No accessories though, which is kind of a bust. It's also really expensive
Looks awesome, but maybe lose the first two dorsal plates, and make the third a bit smaller, and it would be perfect. It's still extremely impressive overall
There's supposed to be some kind of Human conspiracy going on.
I'm thinking that perhaps Kong and Godzilla will be incited into conflict with one another through Human interference, perhaps an attempt by terrorists to both get rid of the Titans and harvest the aftermath for black market goods.
EmptyH: Good thing you aren't responsible for the movie.
Honestly, I think getting a power-up from Mothra and/or Rodan might be the way to go.
During the end of the trailer, Godzilla's dorsal plates are constantly glowing, which could signify that he's currently powered up. I think that the key to defeating Ghidorah will be him gaining further energy to overwhelm his rival.
The Hood: That's an interesting possibility. Kong and Godzilla teaming up to fight Ghidorah.
Yes, I mentioned the same with a thread...now a few years back. Considering how awful it could have been, the 1956 film was actually surprisingly good for what it is. Still, the original 1954 will always be the better film.
Well, he would have to be of comparable size to Godzilla for there to be a worthwhile fight, right? Otherwise, there will be no contest and people aren't interested in paying to see a one-sided smack down.
Awesome! Good to see that the KOTM design for Godzilla is being used, establishing proper visual continuity.
I do not think that the final battle will be 1v1. In the trailer, we can see Mothra and Rodan flying next to eachother.
I think that Godzilla will kill Ghidorah, but not without receiving a lot of help from Mothra and Rodan. I personally think that he'll rip each of Ghidorah's heads off but I do think that it's a possibility that Ghidorah doesn't die and returns in GvKong
Hell yes! This is going to be a great match. Let them fight!
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I think they had some good story potential but seemed to forget about the interesting stuff. So there is a conspiracy and possible mutiny on the ship? Well, I guess that was wrapped up pretty quick. We have this grand plan to defeat Godzilla. Oh, it pretty much worked without surprises, that's pretty boring.
As for the second one, it seemed a little better. I did like how it showed the reliance on technology is a weakness. Though, honestly I may just be looking too deep into that trying to get something good out of it. I am fine with Mechagodzilla not showing up and it being a city, though I can understand how others were disappointed. Also, the main character started to maybe just possibly get a little interesting and not just a half dimensional character like he was in the first movie.
I am hoping the 3rd one does something interesting with the other alien race. I am guessing they are going the religious route as the 2nd movie showed the weaknesses of technology. Also, I hope we get some decent female characters, but seeing as our best male characters so far have been lacking I won't be surprised if that doesn't happen.
Red Berry Juice
Lightning
A minimum of 1 castle
Dancing natives
A satalite
People placing bets on the fight
I would LOVE to see Anguirus, being Godzilla's sidekick (like he was in Gigan, or Mechagodzilla '74), but mainly I want to see Godzilla kicking Kong's butt. I wouldn't be opposed to a team-up movie having the real villain be Biollante, Destroyah, someone like that.
I have to agree with some assorted points from my fellows above, there's a lot of positives that are worth celebrating like trying some new ground in the storytelling, being brave enough to change up Godzilla and the situation and generally trying to break the Big G into new ground, but I also can't help but feel that it's a somewhat wasted opportunity thanks to Toho's strange dictations about what the content could be. It seems the original intentions would have allowed us a Mechagodzilla City mecha battle over what we got, but the overlords nixed it in favor of the human drama. Good human drama is important to the kaiju genre, but in this case it becomes more tedious to me than it does genuinely interesting. There's a balance there of delivering on the fan service we hope for (a good scrap and action now and then) to servicing a good story, but in this case it edged more on dull because they were holding themselves back too much.
But I agree with TheGMan123, it's good that Godzilla's branched out (no pun intended) into anime, I hope for a stronger effort the next time the attempt is made.
People tend to find this perspective a bit odd, but I feel that, even given its flaws, the anime was a success, though not in the traditional sense.
The anime successfully implemented new ideas and takes on characters and properties, as well as expanding the bracket for just how varied the franchise can get.
The trilogy serves as an important first step towards new avenues to explore.
In two words, wasted potential.
I think it could have been amazing, especially with the concept. However, it was executed in a way I can only call okay at best.
^Thanks. I found the article online. Not sure if that's the whole article in the actual magazine, but what's there is clunky and doesn't make a lot of sense.
Still looking forward to what he has to bring to the table. We'll all find out May 31st.
Sick man... just sick. Love it.
