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Fair point. I'd agree with you if I wasn't expecting them to pull an evilish Godzilla later. Speaking of which, out of curiosity, what if they're taking the angle I mentioned earlier?

Hello everyone. Since I am finally back, I have decided on who I agree with, and unfortunately, I agree with G.H. (Gman) because the way that the Monsterverse takes for granted the original message of the franchise and makes the original message of the franchise something it is not. And then there's the fact the "healing radiation" is too fantasy-like, and it just desecrates on what the franchise originally meant.

Well, at least I know the moon landing was faked.

Unfortunetely, yes.

Have I been lied to my entire life?!

No, Jesus was God in human form. Jesus was 100% human, and 100% God, you see?

I'm confused. I'm christian(ignore this). I thought God had Jesus be his prophet?

No, Jesus was the Messiah.

Jesus was a prophet!

Oh yes. Prophets are indeed real.

Nevermind. He responded back.

Chapter 40: Mappo

High above the Earth's atmosphere, October 31st, 2019.

A small spark of light gleaned in the void of space before that spark became a blinding flash, where there was emptiness was now occupied by the Xillien's Invasion Fleet. Starships of every caliber hung above the blue planet. Their flagship the Kusanagi is the biggest ship in the entire flotilla. Lord X dressed in his black battle armor stares at the holographic image of earth, he taps at his console to flatten the globe. He stretches the globe into a map of the planet. 3D images of cities sprang up and the current wear bouts of the kaiju still under their service. Gigan was spotted in South Korea fighting a loosing battle with a bastion of Jeager units left in the region, China and North Korea has become a breeding ground for Vertigo's enthralled dagahra, garugaru, baragon, varan, meganula, kamacuras, kumonga, and the last remaining dogora, Japan is slowly loosing ground to the lesser Ghidorahs, Hedorah was traveling west to Africa, while Guiron is heading straight for Skull Island. Lord X switch over to the second viewing layer, Biosynth's dinosaur hybrid hatcheries were spotted all over the globe.

Lord X lifts his hand as reaches to the adjacent button, he presses the button down, making an audible click as the capsule was fired from the Kusanagi. The capsule race across the earth's atmosphere like a comet before the capsule exploded in the sky above Kilimanjaro, a blue flaming entity levitated its self slowly down to the surface. The Tanzanians stare up in horror as the entity began to uncoil itself, it moved its tail from its head and arms; maple-leaf spikes adorn his tail and back. It then flared its arms away from its head as the beast slowly stood up from its fetal pose, its eyes and spikes glowed blue; Super Godzilla.

Lord X then flips a switch adjacent to to that button, the xillien mind controlling devices all hum to life. Super Godzilla exhaled his atomic breath to the sky, the mind controlling devices on Gigan suddenly activates in the middle of his fight with the chinese and korean jaegers. The Kusamagi deploys several devices to Gigan's region, the devices soon find their way to gigan, outfitting him with a set of plasma cannons, shoulder canons, and a backpack serrated disk launcher. Hedorah felt the xillien's presence in its collective minds, soon it begins to attack the african nations with purpose. The biosynth's hybrid dinosaur soldiers were soon awakened from their sleep as their control chips activates placing them under Lord X's direct control. The Lesser Ghidorahs and Vertigo sensed the xilliens presence but unlike the others who were mind controlled, they joined the xillien forces on their own accord.
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Several Months Ago....Hollow Earth-Venezuela. June 11th, 2019

Coulson and his team were sent out to rescue their expedition team, after encounter several abnormally large dinosaurs they took refuge inside a lone stone villa. The houtua like spiders quickly disarm and incapacitate the Monarch Agents. The houtua spoke to each other in their bizarre language before the one in charge lead them out of the villa, the sounds of distant roars echoed in the distance. The houtua war band took Coulson's group into the catacombs were they eventually came to the great city of Thanatopolis. Fitzs and Simmons greeted Coulson and the rest of the group, the leader of the war band refused to allow the two scientists near their captives, Fitz and Simmons then spoke to the war band leader in his language, he sighed before walking over to his captives to set them free. Jason, Bruce, Ziggy, and Lincoln joined Fitzs and Simmons in reuniting with the rest of Coulson's team. "Where's Daisy?" Coulson asked.

"Well, Daisy... she kind of is..." Fitzs started stuttering

"Here I am" Daisy now dressed in a long concealing robe, trying her best to hide her new form from her friends.

"She's been avoid us for several months.... what the bloody hell happened to you?" Fitzs jerked his back as he saw Daisy's hands and face were covered in refine golden scales.

"Don't ask me, ask underground wizard over there" she points her thumb to the High Archivist.


Present Day, Thanatopolis, Hollow Earth-Venezuela, November 6th, 2019.

The high archivist entered the guest quarters were the Monarch Agents grow restless, "Hey when can we go back home?" Mack confronted the High Archivist. The High Archivist sighed as he turns to face the tall and bald african american man, "You may return to the surface as you wish however I strongly recommend staying here were its safe, you'll find only death and suffering on the surface"

"It doesn't matter what roads we take, the surface is our home, humanities home, and we will defend it with our lives" Coulson spoke up.

"The funny thing about humans, we claim we are adaptable but refuse to actually adapt. Be on your way then, I wish you luck and farewell" the High Archivist waves to them as Coulson's team are escorted back to the surface. The houtua warband bow before returning back to the hollow earth, there the smoked ruins of jaegers units dotted the site around the Hollow Earth entrance. Coulson quickly activates his Nav beacon in his wristwatch, the quinjet they left behind some months ago has remained unscathed all things considering. After everyone got onboard, May quickly revved up the quinjet's engines and soon they were airborne, "Hang on to your seats we are approaching an obstruction.... funny I don't remember there being a mountain range here" May announces over the intercom as she directs the quinjet away from a large pancake-shaped rock formation, eight long armored segemented legs sprang from the ground surrounding the rock formation. Then a pair of scythe-blade claws soon bursts from the ground in front of the rock formation before the rock crumbled away from its red carapace, Thanatos the red titan. It shakes away the loose rock that clinged to its chitin shell for the past three months. Its stares up at the fleeing quinjet, it extends its neck out in a turtle-like fashion, gaping its toothy maw as it roars territoriality at the quinjet.

"What in the bloody hell was that thing?" asked Hunter.

"I don't know but its leaving us alone for the time being" May replied, "This Agent Melinda May of Coulson's team, we all made it back alive and are coming home, over"

"Agent May? You guys are still alive? We assumed the worse, Fury can fill you once you get back to base" Agent Hill replied.

The quinjet rendezvous with a scouting hellicarrier before landing on its runway, after it was done refueling the quinjet takes off towards hawaii.

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Monarch Base, Kawaii island, Hawaii. November 6th, 2019.

Agent May lands the quinjet at the airstrip, the team unbuckle themselves to stretch after a long journey of sitting around. Agent May lowers the door ramp, there Director Nick Fury stood there waiting. "I told ya to be back in 5 hours, didn't I?!"

"WARNING!, incoming TITAN! Unknown" the base announcement speakers blared its message. The Jaeger units mobile towards the disturbance, the water surface breaks and bursts as a large axe-shaped crest rip through the water before the rest of the kaiju's head arose from the depths. The titan roared at the jaegers standing guard, the beasts back arches out of the water as the rest of it slowly began to lift its massive head into the sky; there the beast stood on two thick powerful legs, two muscular arms, and a long powerful muscular tail. "Sir its ignoring the ORCA, it shouldn't be able to trespass this close to the base" Agent Hill informs Directior Fury.

"Muthafucka! Coulson, you and your team head inside to get debrief" the director and his assistant double back to the compound.

The thunderous roars of the axehead titan could be heard from the runway followed by the clashing of metal, several F-16 Fighting Falcons soar over head to provide air support for the jaegers units. the F-16s barrage the kaiju with their missiles in a hit and run strategy. the lead jaeger unit the Patriot Avenger launches its shield from its arm plaftorm. the shield spins around like a fireworks display before firing a barrage of smart missiles into the the axeheaded titan. Axehead roars definitely succumbing to its wounds.

"Threat averted!" the intercoms announced.

In a moderate sized room filled with chairs and a blackboard and a TV hanging from a ceiling platform. Coulson and his team sit around waiting for the director to arrive, Nick Fury enters the room before shutting the door. "Do you any of you have any god damn idea of whats going on in the past few years? Four years ago everything was fine until Agent Johnson went all crazy when that thing got inside of her head"

"We had no idea what effects that Vertigo had on her, we couldn't fathom that she was placed under so form of mind control" Agent Simmons spoke up.

"It took us by surprise, we know that vertigo is capable of swaying human minds with her tail" Coulson added.

"Well it seems that human minds isn't the only thing it can sway. Its reeking havoc in china right about now, Vertigo has enthralled a bunch of insect and reptilian titans to her side"

"What not even bloody Titans freaking are immune to it!?" Agent Hunter shouted.

"Only the smaller ones, we have to report any higher tier titans falling to its enthrallment" Agent Hill added.

"Oh yeah, there has been an incident in California. That theme park's cloned "animals" were brought to the mainland and were set loose, we tried to quarantine the area to the best of our abilities but those damn things keep giving us the slip up. The president issue a state of emergency and now every major city has been undergoing a fortification process" Fury informed.

"Animals? What type of animals?" Agent Mack asked.

"Dinosaurs," Agent Hill spoke up, everybody chuckled, "What have y'all never visited Jurassic World before?"

"Moving on, there has been an increase in titan activity no thanks to some Monarch members siding with ecoterrorists. The titan dubbed Monster Zero has been identified as a type of King Ghidorah"

"Great King Ghidorah, the mightiest of all Ghidorahs with the sole exception of one." Agent Hill added.

"Yes, Kaiser Ghidorah. Thankfully we don't have to worry about any of them, since they are all dead' Fury reassured the group.

"Actually, Mr. Fury sir, that is not 100% true" Daisy rose her hand.

"Do you have any further information about this Agent Johnson, don't pretend I haven't notice you looking like a gold fish with dem golden scales on your arms and face"

"I just wanted to add, that when we were down there in the hallow earth. we've met people down there, they spoke of a prophecy believing that I or potentially something like me is the bringer of the end of the world" Daisy pulls down her hoody showing the extent of her changes, golden scales and a crown of golden horns "I look like my mother when she removed her human disguise"

"I already know that you were half-xillien, I thought you were able to transform back? What has changed?" Fury asked.

"The High Archivist did this to me, I don't understand why?" Daisy replied, "But our world is in grave danger, the titans mobilizing, the houtua believe the titans are reclaiming this world from humanity"

"That's all bloody good and all but what is a houtua?" Agent Hunter asks.

"They are a group of people that live within the hollow earth, they worship the titans like they are gods" Agent Bates added, "They share a lot in common with the elias"

"Also there were giant bloody dinosaurs down there" Agent Fitzs added.

"Yes and we actually saw two elias fairies up close, they really are that small" Agent Ziggy also added.

"Nothing is unstoppable with enough firepower" Agent Mack snarked.

"We can be beat the titans, the jaegers are proof of that" Agent Rodriguez said while crossing her arms.

"Good old fashion, human ingenuity and the indomitable human spirit" Agent Mack added.

"Talking about jaegers, our korean allies and chinese benefactors have been slowly loosing ground to the titans there, something about Vertigo's ability to sway lower ranking titans has made them more deadlier, the titans reactionary reflexes and response time has doubled"

"Vertigo's thralls are an extension of herself, once she is in your mind.... its not you anymore, just only her voice and the visions" Daisy remembered.

"Sounds like we have a real problem on our hands" Fury replied.

"Not to mention all of Marvel Genetics' dorats have fully matured. They have taken over tokyo after the Shin Godzilla incident" Agent Hill added.

"Shin Godzilla?" Daisy looked up at Agent Hill confused.

"Yes a new Godzilla showed up in tokyo sometime after your disappearance, it ravaged Tokyo and other parts of japan feeding on the G-Energy silos. Rather than accepting our help, G-Force decided to just freeze it for further studies. Then not to long after that the Ghidorahs moved in" Fury explained, "Oh and about your friend Reina, reports says she died in a Marvel Genetics accident and the centipede facility you were held in was also attacked. Reports of strange beasts, sound familiar?"

"I get the feeling its becoming a reoccurring theme" Agent Ziggy replied.

"Yeah..." the building started to shake rapidly, "What in the hell!"

"WARNING! Incoming TITAN!" Fury and the others look up to the intercom. "Unknown"

"What another new one?" Daisy asked rhetorically.

"I don't like this" Coulson replied.

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We are exposed to 2.4 mSv a year, so a little radiation doesn't hurt anybody

I'm saying that it's fake until further notice.

Have any of you talked to Gmkgoji? He hasn't been responding to any of my messages. Either he's dead, taking a poop,making a sandwich or left his home.

Thanos could beat Godzilla with the Infinity Gauntlet.

They argue like a bunch of married couples.

Gomi: Ninja Monster and Xenotaris

SO THAT'S WHY I KEPT USING BANANAS FOR A REFERENCE POINT!!!!! Damn, I CAN SEE THE FUTURE!!! Or... data that I will see the next day... eh...

G.H. (Gman)

"You're still not wrapping your head around this flawed argument. Nutella, when you start to eat it, is something your body absorbs the nutrients from almost immediately. Radiation is something that starts eating away your body almost immediately. Again one can kill, the other is from the get-go."

No, I don't think you're comprehending MY point. Everything is inherently deadly. If radiation is INHERENTLY deadly, that would mean it would have to kill at essentially the slightest touch. ANY amount would be enough for it to kill someone or something. But that isn't the case, or none of us would be able to go outside or eat or even exist. And HOW it kills is arbitrary, what matters is that it kills, which EVERYTHING does. I mean, the same thing goes for poisons, like Cyanide. They kill in the same way, by directly harming the body. Are they inherently deadly? Do they kill instantly no matter the amount? Can you eat a single apple seed and not die? Yes, it would take over 140 apple seeds to kill the average, 70 kilo person. It really is just a matter of AMOUNT with anything, not that they will inherently kill you. One cookie won't give you diabetes!

Again, a ramble, but the point is you misunderstood my concept. If radiation is inherently deadly, then so is everything else. The only reason you're saying that it is inherently deadly is because it just takes less of it to hurt people... and to support your argument, of course, or else we never would have brought that up.

"But it also does not spread irreparable pollution and cause political tensions over who has it, who doesn't and who is getting it illegally. There are safeguards around nuclear power/radioactivity that are put in place for a reason. Those safeguards, physical and political, continue to fail on a routine basis. (See: Fukushima)"

Yeah, mmhmm, I'm calling some bullshit on that one. The physical ones don't fail on a regular basis. If so... yeah, I think there'd be some news coverage on it. And nuclear power wouldn't be the "interim" power that is "championed", it would be solar power, hydro power, wind power, etc. Also "irreparable" isn't exactly the correct term. It may take thousands of years, BUT the radiation levels will go back down. And life finds a way to adapt to almost any condition. Besides that, back to the "100 Chernobyls" thing, I was using hyperbole, I thought that much was obvious. Even then, though, 100 cities becoming uninhabitable for thousands of years is, in my opinion, better than thousands of cities and ecosystems becoming uninhabitable for both humans and animal alike due to climate change. I mean, we're kind of fucked in that department. At least if 100 cities had a nuclear meltdown like Chernobyl, we could survive with the remaining tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of cities in the world. With climate change, billions could die and many species could go extinct, possibly even our own.

Monster_Zero 2112

Yeah, me too. Well, not that they're ENTIRELY boring, sometimes something funny can happen... but it's entirely comprised of whoever's bull shit sounds better. 

Really, I guess just comes down to a matter of opinion, how you look at it, and what direction the franchise goes. I don't think any of us are ever going to convince one another on whether or not this is a "slap to the face" of the franchise until more movies come out, so I think this argument is basically becoming pointless. 

I thought we established that while not whole yet, the area surrounding Chernobyl was recovering from the radiation. It takes a whole lot longer than growing back from a forest fire, but the damage is repairable, just not in a helpful timeframe. Agreed to the political side of it, though I'd hypothesize whoever figured out fire might have had to deal with similar issues for a least a few years. That's just conjecture though, feel free to ignore that bit. Your definition of "routine" seems awfully long, seeing as Fukushima was only the second accident of it's size in history. There will always be accidents and failures around anything, to demand none is ridiculous.

Missing variables have been called out on both sides, so choosing either argument involves some cherry picking. I'm siding with the widely-held consensus until more research comes in to shift that consensus, at which point I'll be here laughing at myself for being ill-informed. Tail-dragging dinosaurs are laughable today, but it was peak science once. That's how it goes.

See, that's why I said possible, I figured I was treading on old ground. That all seems fair, though I'd point out that Godzilla would be at much more of a disadvantage without his Atomic Breath, which I'm pretty sure was a result of that nuclear awakening. So while certain uses/misuses of nuclear power were being decried, I'd argue that nuclear energy itself was more a neutral force in the series, just like it is in real life. Also, wasn't the whole inciting incident of KOTM that governments and rouge agencies were trying to either eliminate Titans or use them for war? Aside from Ghidorah I think we can safely peg the Titans as neutral entities, who can be either good or bad for humanity. Isn't it possible to highlight the benefits of something without forgetting the dangers as well?

Your politics bore me

If it is true,I'll see you all in heaven

"we're just trying to give explanations as to why this move MIGHT be pro-nuclear."

Explaining why doesn't change the fact that it is. As for your theory regarding GvK--At the moment it's only a theory. We only have the films currently released to go on and I don't have a lot of interest in speculation.

"That's when you are around TOO MUCH radiation. The same can be said if you eat or are surrounded by too much nutella."

You're still not wrapping your head around this flawed argument. Nutella, when you start to eat it, is something your body absorbs the nutrients from almost immediately. Radiation is something that starts eating away your body almost immediately. Again one can kill, the other is from the get-go.

"Honestly, it's much better to have 100 major cities become Chernobyl than the world will be in 100 years because of oil."

I find this comment extraordinarily suspect. There's no hard data, predictions or proof on this at the moment--And while I agree oil isn't great, claiming burning oil would be worse than 100 Chernobyls sounds like a pretty baseless stretch--And one that conveniently ignores 65 years worth of a franchise we're on a website for.

"Strip fire down to what it is and it's deadly, yet all of us here using the internet would probably agree that fire has been a good thing for humanity overall."

Well I'll give you this, for a comparison that makes sense for a change. Fire at its core does kill. But it also does not spread irreparable pollution and cause political tensions over who has it, who doesn't and who is getting it illegally. There are safeguards around nuclear power/radioactivity that are put in place for a reason. Those safeguards, physical and political, continue to fail on a routine basis. (See: Fukushima)

"The "old data" is still data, and has not yet been sufficiently invalidated from what I or apparently the general scientific body have seen."

But it hardly validates itself anymore, given the admittance of missed variables from the get-go. At this point it's cherry picking.

"Why is THIS a slap in the face to the franchise, but every other time Godzilla has been a heroic force isn't? Godzilla was birthed by nuclear radiation, yet after his 4th movie he was a protector of Japan for a very long run. Shouldn't every time Godzilla beat back space aliens, fought off worse monsters, or burned up sea pollution have been equally as egregious, because a nuclear-powered entity was clearly helping the earth? Or is what came before exempt because Japan made it? If it's "because heroes make money with the kids, can't blame business," than is KoTM not getting that pass because it wasn't a billion-dollar hit? Seems to me Godzilla Vs Hedorah should be getting just as much flack for showing a nuclear force cleaning up pollution instead of causing it as KoTM is getting for potentially slipping in pro-nuclear imagery on purpose."

Oh here we go. I love this argument. First at what point did anyone insinuate that being a heroic Godzilla equated a pro-nuclear Godzilla? And why?

People seem to forget that Godzilla was and has always been a victim of the bomb. He was awoken by the bomb - he was scarred by the bomb. (His design, all throughout the Showa series especially, purposefully had keloid scares instead of scales.) I even mentioned that as Godzilla was a superhero, nuclear power was still being criticized. Godzilla vs. Megalon showed the damage nuclear testing was causing on Monster Island which was again positioning Godzilla as a victim.

Never once did those movies make blatant pro-nuclear story points like a Japanese man willingly detonating a bomb as an overwhelming positive or claiming radiation triggered positive regrowth. But they did show the negative effects as Godzilla played superhero (Godzilla vs. Megalon). It did show that nuclear power could land in the hands of illegal organizations that shouldn't have it (Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster). It did show it could damage the environment (Son of Godzilla). So while the victim of atomic testing ended up fighting for humanity, just as the Japanese had ended up becoming allies with the U.S. (despite disagreements), not once did the films ever concede to a pro-nuclear message.

 I have Mothra to thank for helping me get more into Godzilla :3

Cool. Just keep in mind that's from the World Nuclear Association, so anti-nuclear people might not take that too seriously. I do like how they link all their sources on the webpage though. I also find it hilarious that on another list somebody thought to measure the radioactivity of a banana. :P

Yeah, Mulan. Given how Aladdin steamrolled KOTM though, that's still some stiff competition, especially in the Chinese market as someone from TK pointed out. But it's not like there's a less competitive place to move it to, so March is probably still the best time to release it.

1. Godzilla

2. King Ghidorah

3. Mothra

4. Kiryu

5. Anguirus

6. Rodan

7. Destoroyah

8. Gigan

9. Biollante

10. Showa Mechagodzilla

I love all of these, but ranking them was VERY hard.

1.Kiryu

2.Titanosaurus

3.Gamera

4.Rodan

5.Yongary (Don't ask me why,also its not the remake one)

6.Gigan

7.Godzilla

8.Mothra

9.King Ghidorah

10.Anguirus

What Gman said. To me, It seems to be in a decent position release wise. The only real competition is Mulan. I think the people who see the quiet place sequel will probably see GvsK as well.

I also like invertebrates, my favorite kaiju Mothra is a dead giveaway

I found it on this website https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/radiation-and-health/nuclear-radiation-and-health-effects.aspx

Its talks about several types of radiations and radiative exposures

Huh. Neat list, where'd you find it? 

Ah, finally, some appreciation for Titanosaurus. :P And nothing wrong with liking our invertebrate compadres, we're all weird here. :P Hmm, if I had to rank them, I guess it would look like:

10. Spider Uros
9. Gappa
8. SpaceGodzilla
7. Hedorah
6. Rodan
5. Kiryu
4. Mothra
3. MOGUERA
2. Anguirus
1. Titanosaurus

Honestly it boils down to looks mostly, and I'm fairly confident I'd have a different top ten if you asked me the same question a week from now. :P

Yeah, also connecting back to the mystical radiation I believe is a reference to the magical deradiation fruit from the original Mothra. Also we are irradiated everyday its called background radiation, radiation isn't going to kill you in small doses and a low mSv/yr.

Gmkgoji:

Eh, somebody has to ask the hard questions, don't take it too personally. :P

Some I was forgetting: Zilla, Destoroyah, Battra

Thanks, I am writing the next chapter 

This is probably the second time i've made a topic that has sparked a LOOOONG debate.

I... will cede on that point. We could be doing more to switch to more sustainable energy sources, but do not think the technology at its current level is fully capable of completely replacing nuclear and oil-based power, because it isn't yet. We're close, but there's still work to do.

Fire. Fire is deadly and fire will kill. Fire has caused and will continue to cause more death and destruction than nuclear energy, and yet until the last few centuries it was in every home and an integral part of society, because we figured out how to deal with it. Fire burned London to the ground how many times? Yet did Londoners give up fire? No, they learned from their mistakes and rebuilt stronger and safer so fire could be used with less danger. Fire and radiation are both incredibly good sources of energy, and both are incredibly dangerous when in the wrong amounts, used incorrectly, or just under unexpected circumstances. Strip fire down to what it is and it's deadly, yet all of us here using the internet would probably agree that fire has been a good thing for humanity overall.

Exactly, TheLazyFish, everything is dangerous in too high a quantity, some things just need to be in much smaller concentrations for them to be safe. Heck, sure, radiation at it's core is dangerous, but thanks to our atmosphere reducing the quantities we get, radiation is also one of if not the primary reason any of us are alive right now. All of our food comes in one way or another from plants, who need the sun to facilitate their growth. We need the sun to produce Vitamin D in our skin. So our very existence is a testament to the fact that proper amounts of radiation can be and are helpful.

That article is anecdotal, not the best source of scientific proof. The linked paper(from 2014) simply states that thyroid cancer in Pennsylvania is rising faster than the rest of the nation, potentially contributed to by the rising disease burden, and that possible causes(plural) need to be investigated and may provide insight into the drivers of the national increase in thyroid cancer. TL;DR: Thyroid cancer is on the rise across the country, but a little faster in Pennsylvania and we need to look into that. The article draws a conclusion which the paper itself did not. The "old data" is still data, and has not yet been sufficiently invalidated from what I or apparently the general scientific body have seen.

A possible flaw has occurred to me: Why is THIS a slap in the face to the franchise, but every other time Godzilla has been a heroic force isn't? Godzilla was birthed by nuclear radiation, yet after his 4th movie he was a protector of Japan for a very long run. Shouldn't every time Godzilla beat back space aliens, fought off worse monsters, or burned up sea pollution have been equally as egregious, because a nuclear-powered entity was clearly helping the earth? Or is what came before exempt because Japan made it? If it's "because heroes make money with the kids, can't blame business," than is KoTM not getting that pass because it wasn't a billion-dollar hit? Seems to me Godzilla Vs Hedorah should be getting just as much flack for showing a nuclear force cleaning up pollution instead of causing it as KoTM is getting for potentially slipping in pro-nuclear imagery on purpose.

I really doubt it, mostly due to what Gman also said; he maid similarly impressive claims in the past and they were false.

If it is true... I'll be annoyed, but as long as it isn't pushed to fall, I won't care too much. It'd be understandable. 

G.H. (Gman)

We're not saying we support nuclear power, we're just trying to give explanations as to why this move MIGHT be pro-nuclear. I, once again, don't think they took that stance without wanting to go back on it. I think that whole point of making Godzlla "good" was to make him evil in the next one, so that for the rest of the franchise he will be a neutral force, as he should be. That way making him good in this one would be incredibly true to the franchise, at least the Showa, Heisei, and Millenium eras. That way in GVK he can be bad, and in whatever other movies the Monsterverse makes, if any, will have a neutral-force Godzilla. Or one that is good and bad. Take it how you will, but I don't think they're going to keep Godzilla the goody two shoes pro-nuclear thing he is in KOTM. I mean, they practically had that down perfectly in 2014. Showed both aspects of nuclear warfare with different radiation based Kaiju on opposite sides, and Godzilla not being an inherently good character and showing all the destruction caused by the radioactive waste and plats across the planet. I think Godzilla's part in the Monsterverse as a whole will be like it was in 2014, which I feel, will be a good thing. It wouldn't be a slap to the face to the franchise; it would be TRUE to the franchise. Perhaps not the almost malevolent creature born from humanity's mistakes in the original movies, but as Godzilla as a whole in the vastly different eras, Showa, Heisei, Millenium, and even the anime. 

"No, I'm not saying radiation can be deadly, I'm saying it is deadly and it will kill. Your Nutella and horse can cause issues, but radiation will cause issues, because that's what its purest form does. The purest form of Nutella and a horse does not. You don't need a filter or shield of some kind to eat Nutella or brush a horse. You do to use radioactivity and even that has been prone to failure. You're taking objects and creatures that, when stripped down to their basics, have a "what if" warning label. You strip down radiation to what it is and it's deadly. Period."

That's when you are around TOO MUCH radiation. The same can be said if you eat or are surrounded by too much nutella. You're stomach will explode from too much nutella, or you'll suffocate in it. They're both dangerous in theory, it's just that it takes less of one to kill you. Saying something is "inherently dangerous" would apply to EVERYTHING, it's just a matter of how much of something you do or how much there is. 

"Whatever came between candles and the lightbulb, likely didn't result in as many lost lives as nuclear power, barrels of waste being tossed in the ocean and warehouses full of the stuff--Except the ones shipped in black market circles to organizations without nuclear arms, anyway. This "interm" seems to be an excuse--Not to open up a completely separate argument entirely, but why not begin to exploit and mass produce the successfully tested alternatives instead of dance around and hang on to more dangerous forms of energy?"

Well, we're not very good at using, collecting, or harnessing solar power yet. I mean, we're getting better, but until most things can be powered by it instead of nuclear power or oil, we can't exactly switch to it or else society will come to a halt, like how Gomi: Ninja Monster said. I agree we should put WAY more resources into developing that technology (and developing it for more important stuff than a grill, which is what some people are doing) so that we can finally berid ourselves of oil. However, the only "clean" source of power that is developed enough to work as an "interim", to my knowledge, is nuclear power. In the long run, it is a MUCH better alternative to oil. Sure, in case of a meltdown, it might render a place Chernobylized, but at least it won't make the world like a person's tongue after eating a ghost pepper like oil is doing. So converting to nuclear power while we wait for solar power and the like to catch up to speed is a MUCH better alternative than to keep using oil for the next few decades, especially when we might not even have that long because of oil. Honestly, it's much better to have 100 major cities become Chernobyl than the world will be in 100 years because of oil. At least humans and most life CAN exist in the unaffected areas instead of being like tinfoil in a microwave. Also, of course, I'm using hyperbole, so nobody give me any of that "it wouldn't really MELT us or set us on fire" shit. It would be understandable, and I'd do it myself, but don't you dare do it lol

Dear god that was a LONG ramble.