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Wait a minute, it's said Mothra reproduces asexually... but Mothra Leo is not only a male, which shouldn't be possible under asexual reproduction unless using the ZW system which I don't believe Moths use, but has very different genetic traits and powers, which is practically impossible under asexual reproduction. Especially when considering every time she DOES reproduce in movies, it's Mothra twin SISTERS, and they are basically exactly the same. So how the hell did Mothra Leo not only become MALE (while the aforementioned ZW system is possible, I don't think many Moth species use it, if any. Still, even if that is true, why are all the other Mothra offspring female in every other continuity?), but inherent almost completely different genes and powers? I swear, something fishy is going on here. I feel like either the Shobijin mistranslated, they censored the story, OR Mothra's lying about something here...
Then there's Zilla, who's "male", but is able to reproduce asexually and carries EGGS, but not sperm as far as anyone knows, so how is Zilla male? And then Zilla Junior is much larger, stronger, smarter, etc than Zilla was and clearly shows different genetics, on top of being male and confirming that males of the species are STERILE. But the only other member of his species that could reproduce at all, and ASEXUALLY on top of that, is Komodinatrix, a known FEMALE. So not only does it make no sense for Zilla to be male, but again, the offspring shows different appearance and abilities, so asexual reproduction doesn't seem to fit either... maybe Zilla was pregnant when she mutated? That would certainly explain a lot, and the oddity of the contradicting information we were given could be chalked up to the ignorance of the U.S. Government and the mistake of a worm biologist extending past his main field of study on a completely new kind of creature in the middle of a local, possibly national or international crisis. Or they just kept calling Zilla he for the same reason they called Roberta a he in Jurassic Park, they just felt it suit better. MOTHRA is WAAAAAAAAY more sketch though... Frankly, this deserves its own topic!
With maybe-sentient robots and literal sentient garbage and piss, there comes even more questioning. Then again, I don't think any of this really matters. I doubt fictional monsters and robots are going to care what we call them lol. So my point is, I just call Moguera "she" because of a show I watched, and if you're going to try to make me call Moguera "he", we'd have to compromise on "it" or, if you somehow consider a piloted robot sentient, maybe "they." Then we'd have to talk about all the OTHER Kaiju and mechs and it'd get really confusing. Especially when Mothra reproduces asexually, yet somehow gives birth to Mothra Leo, who not only is a male, but has completely different powers and seems to have very different genes than her.
Gmkgoji
Wait, how would that complicate this? I feel like fully, semi, or non-sentient, non-organic, maybe?-lifeforms is a lot more complicated.
JurassicKaiju14
Sorry, just always saw Moguera as a she, especially after MIB, if anyone here knows what that is. And also, if we really want to get technical about it, Moguera is an IT, so HE would be wrong too. Also, calling Zilla a HIM would be wrong because Zilla would either be THEM because asexually reproducing, or HER because Zilla lays eggs and doesn't seem to have any qualities specifically of a male. Hell, as proven by Zilla Junior, the males of the species are sterile, so... Also, we'd have to call Mechagodzilla, Jet Jaguar, Hedorah, etc THEM if we're about to get technical.
Eh, good point.
Also, Godzilla fans who trusted rotten tomatoes before it gave G:Kotm a bad score:
And yes, I know that Kaiju skeleton is probably a lot lighter than Goji or Kong, but I just couldn't resist the opportunity to make a comparison.
The KingGoji (1962) suit in Mothra vs. Godzilla.
TheLazyFish Honestly, Jet Jaguar is one of those characters that I really hope we don't see ever again.
As for MOGUERA, (1) Since when is MOGUERA a she? And (2) Yeah, I like MOGUERA too. I like him better than Mechagodzilla 2, to be honest.
Do you mean Moguera or Jet Jaguar? Because I wasn't trying to diss on either of them, BUT mainstream would probably be weirded out from the Monsterverse forever if we got Jet Jaguar... and probably fans a little too, because that would be extremely overboard with the fan service if they put him in for no other reason. With Moguera, I like her, but she just kinda looks a little derpy to me with that drill mouth-nose thing. But yeah, Moguera WOULD probably fit, but is much lesser known and belongs to the film that most fans on here like least, or at least one of the least liked Godzilla films on here. I personally kinda liked it for what it was, but still probably the "worst" movie of the Heisei era. Still, seen worse... *mechagodzilla city* cough cough
MinecraftDinoKaiju That's the plan. I saw 2014 and was kind of meh about it. K:SI will be next.
KOTM is my favorite as well, but Kong skull island was the better movie.
Gmkgoji Haven't managed to see it, but from what I have heard and seen, it does sound like, from a film-making level, it did get the long end of the stick compared to the two Godzilla movies.
Oh, well. As of now, KOTM is still my favorite, warts and all.
MinecraftDinoKaiju If you want to go chronologically, I suppose you could watch K:SI, and then go through the two Godzilla movies before GvK.
Well, if you really want to know the dynamic, watch the following in the order listed:
#1: Godzilla (2014)
#2: Kong: Skull Island (2017)
#3: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)
#4: Godzilla vs. Kong (2020)
And that's how you should watch all of the Monsterverse movies. You're welcome. :)
Kong Skull island is probably the "Best" Monsterverse film.
I need to back track and see Skull Island and then G vs K. I started with KOTM and was very impressed.
Oh right, I need to go back and play that before It's lost to time. Remember "1131954" unlocks all the monsters!
I heard someone was dissing my favorite mecha here? lol
Regardless, while personally I think MOGUERA makes the most sense, as it sits on that line between mechanical and animal in appearance which is perfect for the semi-realism of the MonsterVerse, WB already has the rights to MechaGodzilla, so I highly doubt they'll pay for the rights to another mecha when they have one already they can use. I'd love to see an American take on Gigan someday though.
Aww that's sad, I really liked that game. F
Gmkgoji Same. It's probably my absolute favorite of the Millennium era, although Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla is a close second.
Honest to goodness, this film is one of my favorite millenium films.
In total agreement there. Say what you will about KOTM, but having those footfalls and roars blasting from all sides in a darkened theater was a magical moment for me, makes me regret missing '14 and Shin even more. I'll be keeping my ear to the ground next time Japan makes a G-flick.
Just stop trying to take credit for stuff you didn't write. It's very obvious you didn't write that.
Regardless of whatever objective tone I took with the Godzilla 2000 write-up on its background, I actually enjoy the movie quite a bit. Despite its flaws, I was one of the film's vocal defenders at a time when fans were at each other's throats about it. Also it was fantastic to see in theaters--Every Godzilla movie is meant to be seen that way and the fact this was one of the few put in American theaters was a huge treat - whether G-Fans realized it or not.
Dang it. Always one step ahead of me, aren't you?
Cite the article, when you copy and paste it.
The Symbolism Of King Kong
He's like the two, and at the same time, not like the two
Kong — A metaphor for racism... There is a near unanimous agreement among scholars and critics that King Kong, released in 1933, “is a kind of racist allegory, symbolically depicting White America’s view of Black people at the time.” The US society was marred by racial and social tensions at that time. Even though the plot seems like an epic adventure on paper, observe the plot carefully: A heroic film crew sails to an uncharted island, which is home to a gigantic ape, known as ‘Kong’. Here, the film’s ‘white’ leading lady is abducted by Kong, only to be rescued later by her ‘white’ knight in shining armour. The ‘brute’ Kong is captured and taken to New York to be exhibited as the Eighth Wonder of the World. But Kong somehow breaks free, kidnaps the leading lady, and goes on a destruction spree, before being shot down atop the Empire State Building. Many film scholars believe that the capturing and chaining of Kong is metaphorically linked to the US slave trade. Released 35 years prior to the birth of The Civil Rights Act of 1964 — a landmark law that outlaws discrimination based on race, colour, religion, sex, or national origin — the movie implies if black men (represented by Kong) were given total freedom, destruction and chaos will ensue. Directed by Merian C. Cooper and Ernest B. Schoedsack, the movie is also viewed as a cautionary tale about interracial romance.
... and colonialismKong films also draw uncomfortable parallels with colonialism. A team of explorers from West invade the fictional Skull Island, whose inhabitants are depicted as Blacks. In fact, Kong is viewed by many as a fearless leader of these people – a warrior who is forcefully shackled and transported to a different world for the amusement and profit of white people. The rebellion by Kong is seen as a movement by the natives to overthrow the colonist power. Whereas, the killing of Kong in the end, signifies the crushing of that rebellion by brute force.
Don’t mess with nature King Kong is a warning against mankind’s desire to exploit Nature for personal gain. He is personified as the unbridled force of nature, which when belittled by men, unleashes a fury that has severe repercussions. Ironically though in every Kong movie till date — there have been 8 so far — the ‘beast’ exudes more empathy than other ‘human’ beings.
Yeah. He wants nothing to do with the other Titans and doesn't care about them. And he hopes that they don't come for him. Also, Kong is a metaphor for Mother Nature fighting back.
#TEAMGOJIRA Team Gojira for the win!
