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TheLazyFish Shin has good music when it's using original scores. But when it's just reusing tracks from older movies, it fell kinda flat for me.
I feel KOTM's score works because it doesn't just flat out copy the old tunes, but adds new spins on them to make them feel new.
madgod longnguyen I think it's just how the poster is colored.
wait a second,picture behind the toys is kong have fire form like godzilla,WTF,but how?
I kinda liked some of the Shin Godzilla tracks a bit more than any of the ones of KOTM, but by a VERY close margin.
Yeah, I think we should try that agreement on these forums as well. We used to do that when we were hyping KOTM, so I guess we just need to get back into the habit.
Back to the OP- If I were in charge of this site... I would make it a rule... no spoilers pics or scripts or video clips... period. Entertaining theories... yes. Thoughts and opinions... yes.
To be fair, as I recall from the Prometheus/Alien Covenant forum, there was a general post put out to label threads with spoiler alerts from Admin since those movies had massive amounts of buzz. It wasn't perfect due to member compliance or noncompliance, but it was put out there and worked pretty well. It only works if everybody abides by the "rule" which is sort of a "gentleman/woman agreement". Entertaining theories and opinions get mixed in with what some discuss in viral videos/trailers etc that are spoilers to some.
"...especially when they are doing massive reshoots due to poor reception at the screenings."
This has not been corroborated and is likely untrue--It comes from a source known for false information. Right now WB is doing minor reshoots at the studio, which is fairly routine for any blockbuster. There has been no confirmation of screenings, though I wouldn't doubt it.
"Yeah. No one can make you do or feel anything. If you ever said " Because he or she made me mad" then that's not right because they didn't make you mad, you made the choice to have that emotion. It's your choices in life than either lead on the path of right or wrong. Wise words from my seventh/eighth grade teacher.'
I am mad by my choice... but not at one particular person... but rather at the irresponsible way in which people pass on information that is supposed to be guarded.
You wouldn't want enemy forces to know the exact location of your NAVY seals... right ?
That would be foolish.
You wouldn't tell a 3 year old child 5 months before his/her birthday exactly what they are going to get and then wrap it up anyway... that's just stupid.
A major motion picture studio like WB should take great care not to ruin the movie for people months ahead of time by allowing a merchandiser to reveal action figures to the public before there is even a freakin' teaser trailer out... and especially when they are doing massive reshoots due to poor reception at the screenings. This movie already has strikes against it. Now I don't know the plot... but... I don't want to know jack diddley about the movie. I like theories and thoughts... but these spoiler leaks are just bad for business. KOM is a great example of that. It wasn't a bust... but it wasn't the huge success that WB was gunning for either. The monterverse may or may not continue... but having a huge spoiler revealed months ahead of the last movie does not bode well for the franchise in my opinion. I may just sit this one out and wait for the DVD. WB makes too many mistakes when it comes to sci fi and adventure flicks (JUSTICE LEAGUE)
GODZILLA 2014 should have had Dougherty from the get go... but WB went the cheap route with Edward's version... and that was a mistake in my opinion. There were not many leaks prior to his film as much as there were prior to the KOM film. I know this is moot but I think my point is valid as is my anger. In the 80's and 90's I never heard of many movie leaks if any at all. But today everyone walks around with a camera on their phone and BOOM... nothing is secret anymore. The footage of Kong and G on a boat... we were not supposed to see that... as it was exclusive to participating audience members at an event in another country... but that did not stop foolish irresponsible individuals from echoing it on twitter and facebook and youtube... ect ect.
Sorry for the rant but it grinds my gears.
Although I'm not a big fan of the movie, I think King of the Monsters is the best Godzilla score since Tokyo SOS. Would more Ifukube have been nice? Sure, but McCreary's themes were robust, plentiful and catchy too--So no complaints. Just using Ifukube's Godzilla theme was plenty--Especially the spin he put on it.
Indeed, makes me doubly disappointed that KOTM didn't get more Ifukube tracks to remaster/remix.
Well, now I'm wondering if this piece has anything to do with Varan's movie...
Yep. This piece initially debuted in another film--Unsurprisingly. Just about all of Ifukube's Heisei material is lifted from the Showa era and thrown in stereo. Not that I'm complaining, it was nice to hear these pieces re-orchestrated.
G. H. (Gman)
YEP. That's the one. I knew it had to be in "The Best of Godzilla" soundtracks somewhere.
JurassicKaiju14 true it would affect photosynthesis, however, in the long run, trees and plants survived the Dust cloud caused by Yellowstone erupting and the asteroid impact that Ghidorah rode in on 65 million years ago =). however, hurricanes are very destructive and can destroy civilization if powerful enough. as to sea level, we do not know just how much Ghidorah could affect the weather, in theory, if he can cause hurricanes he can cause blizzards to refreeze the ice caps.
it's likely his creators would not need much control over him as once Ghidorah finishes off a planets titans he would grow bored and leave to its next conquest.
However, how was it Ghidorah ended up frozen in ice and why was a second Ghidorah not dispatched to earth. it could be he was a failed superweapon because it could not be controlled, escaped from its creators and started attacking other planets for sport. a kaiju with freezing abilities caches up with it on earth well it's battling Godzilla and freezes it in ice.
Gomi: Ninja Monster,
I have no doubt you recognize it from another movie.
@TheLazyFish
Oh, I completely agree that there is an overwhelming amount of GvK spoilers out there. It only seems to be footage and leaked images that WB is always taking down, such as the GvK CCXP footage. As for leaked toys, yes that seems to be a problem, since Burning Godzilla was also revealed with Jakks Pacific toys. I guess it comes down to bad marketing on WB's part, such as trailers and toys, because I also agree that Disney / Marvel films don't seem to have that same kind of problem. When it comes to that, yes, WB needs to keep it under control, and changing their marketing could very well change their spoiler problem.
G. H. (Gman)
Hmm, upon comparison I see/hear I was definitely off in my initial guess, which now brings up the question of why I thought I recognized that so quickly. Must be triggering something else, more research is needed.
Also, seeing everyone so unanimous about something Godzilla-related is truly beautiful, but I find the lack of appreciation for Crystal from GvsSpaceG, Goodbye Godzilla, and the Hanna-Barbera theme song very disappointing. :P
Godzilla 2014 made me a fan Godzilla is like a second brother to me
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It usually depends on what kind of "spoiler" it is. The MechaGodzilla thing doesn't bother me too much--I'm pretty sure that would've been revealed in the promotional material at some point anyway.
But how and why MechaGodzilla is in the movie and what happens with it in the story is something I'd prefer to avoid.
You guys are definitely beating around the bush. You're in that neighborhood and of course have the composer down. I'll reveal the answer tomorrow night if no one gets it by then.
JurassicKaiju14
Yeah, that's kind of what I wanted, but Ghidorah being a very, very begrudging anti-hero. More of a villain who you root for, and just so happens to do "good" out of self preservation.
Also, don't forget GMK, where King Ghidorah was actually a GOOD guy, so anything's possible.
TheLazyFish Eh, I don't really see Ghidorah being much of an anti-hero.
Although, a fellow fan elsewhere once suggested a movie where Godzilla and Ghidorah both get mind-controlled by aliens again, but once they're freed they're so ticked off at being pawns that they actually briefly team up to take down the aliens. Then they go back to fighting each other.
Godzilla and Ghidorah in an enemy-of-my-enemy situation. Now that would be fun to see. :)
Honestly, I feel the same way as Jurassic, BUT if they have Keizer Ghidorah or some other, higher level Ghidorah (maybe Desghidorah or a new Ghidorah?), then there might be a way to make a Ghidorah movie. Maybe he becomes an anti-hero, kinda like Heisei Godzilla or Showa Godzilla in Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster. Maybe they DO regenerate him fully and he ends up being another alpha titan, a similar relationship with Godzilla that Kong and Godzilla have. Then, in his movie, a higher up Ghidorah comes down and he spends the movie trying to kill the higher up, barely managing to do so. Then it's hinted that the Ghidorah he just killed was still fairly low rank, and eventually the highest rank will come down with multiple subordinates, and that will be the plot of a future Godzilla film or something. Of course FAR from what I THINK the Monsterverse will do, if they even go past GVK, but it would be a cool direction imo.
KingSalomonMMIV
I think it's a little bit WB's fault that SO MANY leaks have come out. I mean, you don't even really see this level of thing with Disney or Marvel, some of the most anticipated things in mainstream media. But a Godzilla movie with this many leaks? This is almost unheard of, even with more popular franchises! This is kinda ridiculous! But good on them for trying to get it back under control.
I actually really like this idea. My one problem with it is that it would mean that Ghidorah is once again the pawn of an alien race. I feel his alleged status as a destroyer-of-worlds is negated whenever he's somebody else's pawn, and I liked how KOTM made him the top-dog again. The Anime Trilogy did it too, but I'm not too terribly fond of their version of Ghidorah.
Also, consider the storm MV!Ghidorah generates. If you look at the monitors during Stenz's briefing at Castle Bravo, you can see that it's actually grown. The hurricane over Washington is just the center of all that. So given that his storm would eventually cover the whole planet, you could imagine what that would do to things like, say, sea levels, or photosynthesis, or...you get what I'm saying here?
It certainly was implied how the Titans have the ability to restore nature via their radiation deposits and it was also directly implied that Ghidorah was affecting Earth's atmosphere to suit his needs / environmental requirements. So, I absolutely see this being a possibility.
I would love to see this angle explored in future films. We already have confirmation that Ghidorah is an alien, why not have him be one of many terraforming vehicles for an alien race?
And then... introduce Gigan to the mix! Monsterverse phase 2 - I can see it already!
1. Sounds partly like a slower version of the music that plays during the part where the humans destroy the control gyroscope in Destroy All Monsters. Given Ifukube's tendency to reutilize older work, I'm gonna guess Battle in Outer Space maybe?
2. Akira Ifukube
3. A chase scene? I don't know, I haven't seen that movie.
(a) Let's see, it kinda sounds like Ifukube's Ghidorah theme, so...Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster?
(b) Akira Ifukube.
(c) I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the final battle scene from Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster.
For giggles, I'll post some trivia from the second soundtrack challenge, which I cancelled a couple of years back:
Elite Question
What movie is it from?
Who is the composer?
What scene is it from?
@TheLazyFish
You can't take my word for it because I don't know for sure, but I have heard that Mechagodzilla has a pretty small role in the film.
Yes, when important plot points are revealed on the internet from movies such as GvK, it's very irritating. I remember about a year ago, this same situation happened with KotM when images of a toy of Burning Godzilla were leaked on this website. After things like that are spoiled, it's almost impossible to void to avoid them (unless you live under a rock for a few months). However, it was your choice to watch the leaked videos from KotM, and you can't blame WB because they were not forcing you or anyone to watch these clips. In fact, they were on the internet taking down these leaks like crazy. But yes, I do agree that people should keep spoilers to them selves unless they can discuss them on threads or platforms regarding the spoilers.
I agree so badly. I had the MechaG spoiled for me by a recommended video on youtube that appeared in my notifications. I wasn't going to watch it, but I already saw the thumbnail and title at that point, so it was already spoiled for me. I mean, WTF?!!! I actively made it so I wouldn't be notified from my main sources of Kaiju news in preparation for this movie, and then this comes up in my notifications?!!! So, I then checked my usual sources because at that point, what's the point? I already had MechaG spoiled. I was actively going to avoid the trailers, but now I know the huge twist. Fucking great. Still going to see it. I mean, you get to know the complete story by watching the movie , even if some of it is spoiled. It'll still be an enjoyable experience... but nowhere near as enjoyable THANKS TO THOSE FUCKING LEAKS. Seriously WB, get your shit together! How do you have so many leaks?!!!!!!
I love them both, but I feel like the first one really needs something to help make it stand out. That kinda also applies to the second one, but to a lesser extent. I like Gomi's drawings of the first, but I also agree they still need some more things to add. I suggest HUGE armored plates like on an Ankylosaurus to add to the first one's back, as well as some weird horns and spikes along the top of the head. Maybe put a bunch of quills on its back, or give it fishy scales or bird feathers? Maybe axolotl gills? A head crest, maybe similar to a Lambeosaurine Hadrosaur? I don't know, just throwing some stuff out there.
For the second one, I love the design, but the body and head kinda look a little bare. I just feel like a little something should be added there. Maybe the aforementioned Axolotl gills? Maybe make it so its mouth opens like a Sarcastic Fringehead (look it up if you have no idea what I'm talking about)? Maybe give it a dewlap like some lizards or birds, and make it big and blue like some lizards? Some kind of covering on the head, like a crest, spikes, horns, armor plating, etc? For the chest, maybe another one of those protruding bones you have on it? Maybe on the legs, add some sails that protrude along it, like old restorations of Amargasaurus or a Spinosaurus Sail? I don't know, just throwing out some weird ideas.
Don't mean to be critical, they look AWESOME. I just want to throw some ideas at ya.
Yeah. Though I prefer it when we all have different opinions, but all respectfully listen to one another. Those are the sweetest moments, in my opinion.
It's also hard to disagree when ALL the music is awesome XD.
It's absolutely incredible how we disagree and argue over the movies themselves and which ones we consider the best, but then we get to the music and all of a sudden we're all pretty much on the same page.
Moments of finding common ground like this always make me feel a little happier. :)
I don't care. Whatever it is, I'm ready to play it. But in my opinion, I think that the game could be like smash or Marvrel vs Capcom or Jump Force.
Dude, why Rodan? He's just napping in a volcano near Mt. Fuji. So he's fine.
Yeah. Blue Oyster Cult made it in 1977 and it's on their "Spectres"(1977) and "Don't Fear The Reaper: The Best Of Blue Oyster Cult" (Feb.8, 2000) albums.
I am in a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE minority in which I actively seek out spoilers. Why? Because I can't stand not knowing what happens. I had my friend spoil endgame to me because I wanted to know what happened to Thanos. I thought that if he died without me not knowing before hand, I would be pissed. Therefore, I had him tell me what happened in endgame. I knew that Mechagodzilla, and Kong having an axe would be in the movie WAY before the leaked images came out. But I still will be looking for any information because i'm concerned about Rodan. So...yeah.













