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@Kage432

My guess is that it was the airport scene I was talking about. Sorry, I thought Ford was inside a TRAIN. XD My bad.

But it wasn't the MUTO's head, was it?

After watching the wondercon footage repeatedly I'm convinced that it was the MUTO's arm that smashed the train in half. it's head or mouth didn't look big enough to do the job.

The scene with the soldiers on the train tracks or the airport scene? If its the latter than it was caused by the Muto. If you are talking about the scene with the two soldiers on the tracks, that scene was not in the wondercon footage.

I'm willing to bet that white thing was probably an early concept for the MUTO monster.

@COCKZILLA - Impossible. It has already been scientifically proven that animals of basic intellect do not feel anger. They can be aggressive, but anger and aggression are not one and the same.

As for that last bit you mentioned, I don't even. I don't.

Oh cmon, animals also get angry. But do they get the "I will avenge my people" emotion. It's more "f*ck off and die". 

And ts you can add "I could've used paragraphs so it wouldn't be an eyesore reading this" on the title when you do rename it.

Im just fuelling discussion. Saying your opinion amd getting your jimmies rustled when someone disagrees makes it seem that YOU think that your opinion is final lol.

@JUNKERDE - Too true, but at the moment we don't know for certain what Godzilla's full mental capacity is in this film, so all we have to work with are present facts and speculation based off of said facts. GTBETTA35 seems to believe that Godzilla can't experience a desire to avenge the fallen but he believes Godzilla to be a herald of balance, or something meant to restore order if you will. I just explained to him that you can't have one part of the coin and deny the other. If Godzilla's purpose trully is to restore order, he'll have to undertand the basics of right and wrong, or else why would he want to do such a thing? The only other alternative is that nature made him do it and we both know where that discussion will go...

At the end of it all, we can't say if he can or can't experience these emotions and desires and as such, I would appreciate it if memebers, not you, would refrain from acting like its already confirmed that he can't.

trollbait 

yeah he probably has emotional qualities but I'm not seeing the vengeance thing. 

@GTBETTA35 - "Until a threat to his survival from an ancient foe forces him to appear." Thanks for that bit of information, now allow me to explain it to you. For Godzilla to be a creature of PURE INSTINCT he would not be allowed the ability to experience anger, only instincts that ensure his survival which translate into aggression, correct? That is what is defined as instinct at its basis, and its what animals are at their core. FROGNATION intiated a rather compelling thread that explored whether or not Godzilla could be capable of emotions such as anger. In that thread many interesting points were made but one fact remained certain, only beings of higher intelligence could experience complex emotions like anger, and Godzilla comes from stories upon stories that explore those emotions and intellectual abilities being accessible unto him. Heres the link if you want more details:http://www.godzilla-movies.com/community/forums/topic/33765

Now then, that being said and from what you've already stated, Godzilla should be incapable of anger or wanting to avenge anything, its slly right? Well, you wanna know what else is silly? Asserting that claim while attempting to argue that Godzilla wants to go out of his way, out of the safety of the ocean to confront two monsters that could potentially overwhelm him - doing all that because they pose a threat to his survival. But doesn't that seem rather odd for an animal, to remove himself from safety and reveal himself to the enemy thus giving up his advantage just to have a brawl? And taking in account that you believe him to be a paragon of balance, well that further complicates his basic instinct because now you are implying that Godzilla has some sense of right or wrong, some sense of justice, restoring balance is something only a being with those understandings can accomplish. Why else would he restore balance? Because its instinct to stand against evil and repel humanity's arrogance? What sense does that make? Thats not what creatures with lower intellegence spend time doing. Thats an act of a creature of higher intelligence, a creature capable of feeling complex emotions like anger, hate, fear, and the desire to avenge. No animal would ever put itself in harms way for the sake of anything beyond its own survival or the survial of its offspring, and certainly not to start a fight with a monster that is unaware of its presense, giving up the element of surprise and potentially endangering itself. That isn't instinct and it never will be.

Great drawing, absolutely love it.

Read this this morning. Awesome article. Sent it to some friends and colleagues who don;t quite understand big G.

Godzilla wants to be left alone and live out his days in isolation. Gareth and Max say this, but because we woke the MUTOs up, he has to restore balance, because they act as a threat to Godzilla, and we have to pay the price for our arrogance. That is it. I don't need to dwell into this incredibly silly claim that he's trying to avenge anything. Not only does the packaging say they're ancient foes (who dont just fight when they cross paths, what kind of silly stuff is that? They've obviously hunted eachother or else the story would be pointless. Who wants to see a movie where Godzilla fights 'that guy he runs into from time to time'?) But it also says he awakens from his solitary slumber simply to end the threat that has awoken.

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@DANZILLA93 - Don't worry, It got me once or twice as well :) 

I know speculation is ok but when you say somethinv is and you dont actually know that just gets on my nerves sowe have to wait and see the movie

Johnsmith you dont know what they are your just asuming you havent seen the movie we have to wait and see what they are

@GTBETTA35 - Well for starters allow me to address the points you made that are wrong. First of all, Gareth did say Godzilla is a force of nature, he did, but comparing him to an earthquake, or a volcano is nothing more than hyperbole. Do earthquakes walk? Do volcanoes have children? Can a tsunami bleed? Of course not. Secondly, being rivals or foes in no way suggests that you constantly hunt each other to the edge of extinction. The actual definition of foe is simpy an opponent or enemy, that is all, everything that happens within that relationship is not tethered to the title. It doesn't mean they are always looking to find each other and end things, show me on the box where it says that they do and I'll admit to being wrong. If you cannot provide a source with proof then there is nothing further to discuss on the matter. And as for Godzilla wanting to be left alone, doesn't that better serve to conflict with your earlier statement about them actively hunting each other?

This is some really cool art.

Nice work.

To be honest, I'm going to have to say that it's just natural instinct for Godzilla to have hatred for MUTOs.

Although it would be interesting if he was trying to avenge passed relatives, I really don't see it happening.

1. They're gills and it's nothing bad, End of.

2. I agree with DANZILLA93, PUNCTUATION IS YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!!!

Bummer, my first multiple post oopsie. :P

You're welcome, Kage432! :) Keep up the discussion!  Don't let goobers like Cockzilla (I feel wrong just typing that name) bring down a perfectly valid hypothesis.  Part of the fun of being pumped for a movie is speculating on areas where the answers remain a mystery.  Bring it on!

No, I read the whole post. Gareth has said time and time again that Godzilla is like an earthquake, a volcano eruption, a storm, a hurricane- a force of nature. Now, please tell me, do any of those things seek to avenge anything? And they DID seek eachother out, as it is printed on the back of one of the action figures that they were ancient foes. And I think Gareth even says in an interview with Max Borenstein that Godzilla wants to spend his days unbothered before our arrogance with the MUTOs makes him wake up.

@SOMETHING REAL - Will do my friend :)

Is anyone else fed up with posts complaining about or over analyzing the gills?!  Let alone one that is impossible to read? :P

1: If they are gills, they are there to increase realism.  If they are not, they are just a cool scale pattern.  Either way, they look awesome.

2: PUNCTUATION IS YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!!!

Thank you guys for your thoughts, and of course to DANZILLA93 for the throwback Godzilla vs Avengers scan lol. I'll keep this ship rolling then.

@COCKZILLA? - Wait, so getting past the rude forum members that I seem to be attracting and for the sake of discussion, if Gareth said that the Muto are connected to Godzilla's life cycle, why would I forget about the creature's possible motivations for wanting the Muto dead if they present a threat to not only him but his potential offspring? Ignoring that "shit" seems to be the opposite of creating threads that provoke everyone into speculation regarding what we DO NOT KNOW about in the upcoming film, do you follow? You may be right of course and everything in Godzilla is driven by *mere instinct, but its always fun to speculate. BTW, I'm thinking about changing the thread title to READ THE OP ;) lol

Just kidding! :) I actually read your WHOLE post before commenting!

Its an interesting idea you have there!  Revenge would be a good motivation, and one that audiences could understand and get behind.  We'll have to wait and see! :D

Getting past the stupid title and for the sake of discussion. G's beef with the monster is more instinct than personal. As gareth said regarding the mutos, it's a major part of the godzillas' life cycle. So forget the "you kill mama, me kill you" shit.

well Just Bandai puts more effort in to it and neca does not it is kinda like Damm and STE.

@SOMETHING REAL - I understand you 100% my friend, but in my honest opinion, as a member of any forum site you have the personal obligation to read the opening post or OP before making a post. If you can't do something as simple as that than why even post? You'll sound like the odd one out more often than not. That isn't something I imagine anyone wants, am I right? Read the OP, do it for yourself if not for anyone else.

'Is Godzilla seeking vengeance against the Mutos?' could work. I wouldn't worry about it until you get a bunch of people saying 'WTF Godzilla isn't owned by Marvel DUUUUURRRR'

I don't feel that I should have to go to that length but if I must may I ask what I would have to do to get the change requested?