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Vera Farmiga, Kyle Chandler, and Millie Bobbie Brown are all pretty well known actors.
though i do agree, KOTM is a movie for the fans, not general moviegoers. I believe the GvK will fix this, and bring in a large general audience. This is because more people know who Kong and Godzilla are and would want to see them fight, but not many people aside from the fans have any idea who Ghidorah, Mothra, and Rodan are, so KOTM winds up looking less interesting to people.
I have friends who aren't Godzilla fans who didn't want to see KOTM but did say they are going to see GvK.
The monsterverse's only chances of a future now are for KOTM to break even, so they don't get a loss on that, and for GvK to be a BIG movie, like in the 700-800 range, to make up for what they didn't make on KOTM.
Gvk also doesn't have a big movie releasing around it. KOTM released the week after aladdin, and the week before X-Men Dark Pheonix and The Secret Life of Pets 2. A release earlier in May might have been better for the film. But GvK doesn't have too much competition around it as of now, so more people will see it.
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Yeah. A success is still possible, but I really only see it breaking even after its time in the theater.
But yeah, I do see GvK being a success, whether or not it will be enough to ensure future movies in the monsterverse remains to be seen, but i really hope it is.
Hi ever since I was old enough to remember I was watching Godzilla movies. I loved it, so cool seeing these guys battle it out. As a kid I took it all seriously and hated when Godzilla would lose even if he was the "bad guy" in the movie. Now as an adult having these movies come out is so cool, I'm hoping for more after kong. And maybe some Mecha King Ghidorah.
actors that no one knows who the hell they are.
Lolwut?
there won't be any films after GvsK, You can bet on that. We are witnessing first hand when you give a fan like Dougherty the keys to a franchise they will fuck it up with his shitty fan fiction-like script and actors that no one knows who the hell they are. A least Gareth Edwards for all his flaws as well, Made a godzilla film for everyone, And the Box office numbers reflect that.
Also it can be Super-X. Monarch or militaries will use this machine to defence cities, but A.I goes mad and G & K will fight it.
I think for the film after GvK, if the studios will use the plot with alien-kaiju - it should be Gigan. And maybe we can get alien-race like in some classic Godzilla films. Dudes from Final Wars for example.
G. H. (Gman): Hahaha, fair enough. ;)
Does someone know just how much Legendary is getting in terms of % of the box office from China (or whatever other metrics they use).
As much as I'd love them to, I don't think they'll bring up mechas right now... can't think of a way they can do it without being just '????'
I think your points are very good, tho I doubt kotm will end up as a success... Still, hoping GvK does better, and is enough to show there are still people who love Godzilla/Kaiju
Godzillatheking123,
If I were to give an official warning to everyone who didn't contribute something we wouldn't have anyone here without official warnings--Including myself and Chris.
It does occur to Legendary may be able to keep more of the Chinese revenue since it's owned by Wanda, but I've not seen any source or confirmation of that so far.
This movie could have legs and break even, or even make a profit. if that is the case this movie wouldn't be a flop, and then you have GvK which is more of a gurunteed success than KOTM was. I think the monstervers has a descent chance of going on after GvK, but maybe like a movie every twoish years like they have been doing. I don't think kaiju films are big enough to put out one a year. they wont make enough return on an annual basis i think. IDK, that is a whole other topic though lol.
Godzillatheking123: Being a troll is a ground for a warning. He's not contributing anything to the discussion.
As for dvd/blu-ray sales, I know that. It may not contribute officially to the budget, but heck, it is revenue to the studio, they would be happy to receive money as a business. If there is great sales, the studio is not going to just ignore that.
As for box office, China is a getting to keep a little less than usual this time, compared to other movies, athough I need to check where the source came from, but that's what I read.
Godzillatheking123,
Whether or not he's happy about the movie failing at the box office is not grounds for a warning. So he won't be.
Also the industry doesn't normally factor Blu-ray/DVD sales into budgets this big. For some reason they see receipts from those sales as a cherry on top. I think they're crazy, but it's how it has always been and that line of thinking hasn't really changed.
I think it's a little early to say whether or not the movie is a flop, but it isn't looking great. Among the theater takes, distribution costs, overseas theater/distribution costs, massive marketing campaign and two-thirds that China gets to keep in their territory--It's going to be a tough battle. It actually opened as high as Shin Godzilla in Japan, but we can't really factor the money it makes there. Per the agreement with Legendary, Toho gets to keep all the money it makes in Japan. (Which makes sense.)
Hopefully it has Skull Island legs. Regardless, I've braced myself for the extreme likelihood GvK will be the final Monsterverse entry. I've expected that for the last couple of years--Best to embrace what we're given while we can.
Speaking of break-even, let's not forget DVD/Blu-ray sales as well.
macumbalove: You are forgetting whether the movie will have a long leg or not. The thing is, you are taking positive glee in the failure of KOTM. No Godzilla fan, even if they dislike the movie, will want a Godzilla movie to fail. That means you a troll.
Chris...perhaps you should consider sending a warning to this macumbalove, or maybe ban him if he keeps up this behavior?
Emperor GorillaGodzilla: Sounds like a troll to me (or haha, maybe a closet critic who can't stand moviegoers loving this film). Sure, it's perfectly legitimate to critique the Godzilla fanbase, I mean, honestly, certain corners of the G fandom needs a good reality check. That being said, this fella seems to say nothing but negative things about Godzilla, his fans and wishing for the failure of KOTM. I really don't see what point there is for him (or her) being on a Godzilla forum...except to be a troll and rile people up.
macumbalove: Ummm...what actually are you doing on a Godzilla forum?
^Is there a reason why you're being so overly critical to the fanbase and a great film like KotM? If you hate the Godzilla fanbase so much then why are you on this site, talking about it?
And it will be another movie that audiences laugh off the screen.
macumbalove,
If any of those are in the movie, it's a little late to change at this point due to any reaction. The movie is deep in post.
dang. Hopefully GvK can bring some big bucks to the box office, because the monsterverse's future is counting on it!
The MUTO's bodies are covered in an iridescent, metallic grayish-black exoskeleton. papas games
LMAO it won't be Gigan, Jet Jaguar, or Mecha King Ghidorah. You guys need to get out of your adolescent fan bubble. Mainstream audiences are laughing Godzilla 2 off of the screen right now and you guys think the aforementioned characters will be in G vs K. LOL never change Godzilla fandom.
It absolutely 100% is. I've been saying this all along and everyone thought I was a troll.
macumbalove Yea, it's looking that way :/ What a shame... I guess Godzilla is more niche than we'd like to admit
The True Winner: Debate Week
I'm staying with the God Of Zillas, The King Of The Monsters, The Killer Of False Kings, GODZILLA!!!!!!
The monsterverse is finished.
Doesn't matter, This one will flop harder than kotm.
oh wow, im gonna have to get one of those haha
Batman v Superman heavily teased that "one will fall" as well, and they wound up teaming up in the end. It would be a poor buisiness decision to kill one off. i think that one of them will be very close to besting the other, and then a powerful foe, like mecha king ghidorah, or something else created with ghidorah's DNA, will emerge and they have to fight, that way there is a clear winner, but both are still alive so that nobody is too upset. If one does kill off the other though, as much as i love kong, i hope it is godzilla, he would be a better lead for future monsterverse movies because he is a bigger name.
This leak was debunked, the guy who did it gave a false leak for another movie.
I am going to stay with team Godzilla, to me, Kong is another false king.












