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This is what happens when things go mainstream. Many people won’t actually understand it.
I agree about the “true godzilla fan” thing.
But Kamoebas V.6 did share a video that annoys me, I don’t have the link. Honestly though, it seems that YT seems to have two types of people. Older Goji fans and the newer ones. Unfortunately the newer ones seem to only think there is monsterverse and sometimes shin. Ones that make fun of older movies, I have yet to see.
@KaijuFan_6754 Uhm okay, your point being? Does that mean you need to familiarize yourself with the previous eras Godzilla before you can call yourself a fan? I mean I really, REALLY like Harry Potter, but I've never taken the time to read the books. Does that mean I have to familiarize myself with the books as well to make me a Harry Potter fan?
Yes, I feel very much invested in just the MonsterVerse. It certainly gave me what I wanted. But the people that just follow GVK and nothing else knowing DAMN WELL that there's much more than meets the eye for Goji
And yes, the Transformers reference was very much intentional.
What the "fans" forget is that without the existence and continuations of the heisei and showa, the Monsterverse wouldn't have existed.
Also, please don't start with the whole "true Godzilla fan" stuff. To be fair, it IS understandable when people say for example that they are Comic fans because they've watched the MCU, but with a franchise so diverse and not to mention BIG, when ARE you call yourself a "true Godzilla fan". If you're a fan of the Monsterverse but nothing else, I think you are still 100% allowed to call yourself a Godzilla fan.
It's full of dumb people now,it become mainstream cause of memes,and the dumb meme people started shitting on the og
I'm also very conflicted on this topic. On the one hand, it's great that Godzilla has become as mainstream as it has and the more fans of what we love the better!
But as SarcasticGoji mentioned, I'm also slightly afraid that this will lead to the fandom being split between fans who enjoy everything Godzilla and Kaiju related and fans who only enjoy the Monsterverse and nothing else. It's a place many fandoms have gone done with the Transformers being the most infamous example of this with Star Wars not far behind.
Of course, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with thinking this way about anything. It's that constant fighting between the 2 about which is the best that has me worried. Now I don't see this happening to the Godzilla franchise as much as those other fandoms, but it's something I'm keeping my Gigan visor out for.
And yes SarcasticGoji, things are getting worse for Big G on YT....
These Godzilla fans aren't true Goji fans. They are idiotic fools that only care about attaching themselves to viral topics for no reason just to feel "cool" and it's really DUMB.
The way to stop it, try to rival it.
It’s just this irritates me as well. I sort of thought, that maybe that they’d want to learn more and explore the franchise, but the people on YT just seem to only be fans of the MV godzilla. I mean 14’ was my first G film, and I literally wanted to watch other godzilla movies, not just monsterverse. I thought others would do that.
Youtube hasn’t really been a good place for godzilla, and it’s getting worse.
Fans who didn't grow up with the classics. It's hard for some to appreciate the authenticity of the source material. Boils down to immaturity really. I'm fortunate that I grew up on the classics, I remember going to my local Blockbuster or Jumbo Video and renting 2 or 3 Godzilla movies at a time (back when video stores were a thing lol). So for me, having grown up on those I have a healthy respect and appreciation for them. Newer films and the Monsterverse are dramatically more advanced, visually so it's difficult for some to compare the two generational differences. Although I still love watching the classics and in many cases far more than the Monsterverse flicks. But, to each their own I guess. It's all a matter of perspective.
Tom's the best looking male cat I've seen since the age of 3.
Bruh KaijuFan_6784 I love Tom and Jerry.
Yeah, it goes to tom
Just kidding. I don't know any good looking male actors.
no it goes to tom
Love it! It's so catchy.
I think the "Kamacuras-Kumonga hybrid” looks more like an hybrid of Megalon and Gigan. But I have seen leaks that say something very different...
KaijuBuildz
Correction, the god-like honor goes to Godzilla and King Ghidorah
I mean, Tom Hiddleston is quite literally god-like with his appearance!
Then dont do it.
But MG’s AI was built on King Ghidorah’s neurons.
Mechagodzilla's body and artificial intelligence existed before Ghidorah took over. So Ghidorah's consciousness possessed an already existing titan, like how a ghost can possess a living being.
But aren’t Mechagodzilla and Ghidorah the same characters in monsterverse, just different forms.
So if the teams are dedicated to alpha titans, will there be a team Mechagodzilla?
That makes sense, I have noticed these trends have stopped around the millennium era.
SarcasticGoji,
I think the way Taiwan uses "dinosaur" and Germany uses "Frankenstein" & "King Kong" are the same. In those respective countries, the words stand in for "monster" and are popular selling points. What seems bizarre, misleading and almost like a copyright lawsuit to us, must be more accepted and understood in those countries.
SarcasticGoji,
I think there were some attributes taken from Titanosaurus--The colors, as you pointed out, and the orange fins around the head and snout. It's almost like Eiji Yamamori really wanted Titanosaurus and Varan to be in the show, so he made Godzilla's forms out to be variations on those designs.
Fuyuki Shinada did something similar when he designed King Ghidorah for GMK. He was so disappointed his Varan design wasn't going to make it in the movie, that he used Varan's face for each of King Ghidorah's heads.
Granted, Yamamori is clearly doing something more explicit that he wants to be noticed.
I’ve been doing some research and it seems the Tawainese Titles Include Dinosaur, as a replacement for Godzilla. In fact Godzilla vs Biollante is called Big Dinosaurs
Another title for GMK (2001) in mexico is The Invasion of Godzilla
I never thought the first one looked like Titano other than the coloration.
SasquaDash,
Yes, but the deal is no different than the one Toho has with Legendary. If we wonder why Toho is allowing this in Singular Point, we should also lay blame (or praise) at their feet for Legendary's films too. They may have approved aspects for all three studios, but they're not the creative studio behind the Monsterverse or the anime.
And I think it's becoming more obvious why Bones and Orange have done this. Monster designer Eiji Yamamori and the animators are clearly very much fans of the series, but whereas Titanosaurus and Varan wouldn't fit the story (or rather, they have the self-control not to shove them into the story needlessly) they're using design attributes as an homage for something else entirely.
Normally, I'd pin this as "lazy" but, quite frankly... well look at it. It's not exactly a carbon copy of the Titanosaurus or Varan we've seen before.
Yes, but Toho is still involved with overseeing the project, so these choices were made with their approval.
I'm just wondering why they made these "new" kaiju so similar to the old ones if their meant to be something different...
SasquaDash,
Orange and Bones. Not Toho.
KaijuFan_6754,
Why? They're Legendary's designs.
SarcasticGoji,
It's an interesting thing Orange and Bones are doing with this series--Using aspects of other monster designs for something else entirely as an homage to past monsters. The main thing is only the hardcore fans will notice it and anyone new will likely miss it.
I don't think I can recall another franchise that has done something like this. If nothing else, it's a roundabout form of fan service that doesn't stop the story in its tracks, so I'm appreciative of that aspect. Oddly, the Titanosaurus >>> Varan >>> Godzilla evolution is something interesting to think about and not entirely off base. It also adds to the commonality between all these monsters the story may or may not be alluding to. (I don't really want to give anything away.)
I'm fascinated by this approach. It also reminds me I need to watch episode 7.
Mechagodzilla is smexy
ok im kidding
On the kaiju male front, King Ghidorah was absolutely beautiful in King of the Monsters
I am a straight male and I think Ken Watanabe was cool looking
correction: most of the kaiju only share certain traits not a whole design for example the varan one
