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i hereby alive this topic.

should i still write that Robot Masters vs FW Gigan? i remember being so pumped about it i even drew a comic which of course never got finished lol

then again, i never started writing it

sonictiger,
That isn't the first time WB did this. Bryan Cranston is an infinitely bigger name than Millie Bobby Brown and he was advertised front and center as the main character for Godzilla '14. The ads and trailers made it look like Cranston was going to go up against a villainous Godzilla and we ended up getting something different.

To be fair, regardless of their quality, Godzilla vs. Kong and Kong: Skull Island were probably the two most honestly advertised of the Monsterverse.

Also, they basically set up Madison for a larger role but didn't even have the decency to follow through with that in Godzilla Vs. Kong.  So it was all basically a wasted effort on WB's part because they were claiming they were doing all this stuff with an insanely popular actress when in truth they weren't.

The thing is, the fact that they were advertising Millie so much (due to name value) makes WB look more pathetic than they already are as they're basically saying that they have no faith in this movie being watched.  They went to insane degrees to push the fact that they had an insanely popular Emmy-Nominated actress in this movie about monsters beating the heck out of one another just because they're not sure how many US Godzilla fans are there and they don't know if casual viewers will care about the movie so they're basically bribing you to see it at this point.

What's annoying about KOTM is that sure Madison did stuff but WB forced the claim that she was the main character so far up our [REDACTED] that people were expecting that and then....we all know what happened.

LOL

Jack Capellini

I wouldn't be surprised if they go in that direction either, they did tease the idea of Kong finding others of his kind in the Hollow Earth during GvK. I think the idea of Kong interacting with other Kongs is a really interesting idea. The only time that's been done was in King Kong Lives, and while that movie is really bad, the idea of Kong finding a mate is a cool concept and, if done right, it could make for an amazing movie.

I meant to say Shimidah instead of Shinomurah. My apologies.

@SasquaDash: I really like that idea, and it honestly wouldn’t surprise me if that’s the direction the next MonsterVerse film will go in. It’s much more realistic than Kong fighting Gororsaurus or King Caesar. 

Plus, the rumor that the next MonsterVerse film will be titled “Son of Kong” gives some credence to this theory. However, we should keep in mind that the Hollywood Reporter article that originally reported on this rumor stated that “Son of Kong” was only one of many titles that were being tossed around. So it’s entirely possible that the next film won’t be Kong centric at all, or maybe it’ll revolve around Kong discovering more members of his species in the Hollow Earth, but he won’t have a son. 

high school in a nutshell

Hear me out,

What if the next MonsterVerse film focused on Kong finding more of his kind, the major conflict being his attempts to fit in with them? Think about it, Kong's been alone for most of his life, he's never interacted with another member of his species, so how would he react to being among other Kongs? How would they react to him? Living in isolation on Skull Island may have resulted in Kong behaving differently than the rest of his kind. Maybe the Hollow Earth Kongs view him as an outcast. Kong wants to be part of the group, but for the most part the others don't want him around. This could lead to a pretty emotional story, Kong's finally found others of his kind, yet he's still alone. Kong's journey could be him trying to gain the trust and respect of the group. Another conflict could arise from the social structure of the group, Kong's used to being the ruler of Skull Island and "bowing to no one", so what happens when he has to follow the command of others? Maybe the troop is being lead by a older, aggressive, battle worn silverback who views Kong as a threat to his leadership. This could eventually lead to Kong challenging the silverback which could lead to a massive battle for dominance. Maybe at the end of the film Kong defeats the silverback or ends up defeating another titan that threatens the troop, allowing become the leader of the troop and finally earning the title of "King Kong". Kong could also find a mate within the troop, finally giving him the happy ending that he rightfully deserves.

sonictiger

GvK really didn’t Celeb bait, sure they had famous actors, but it was no where near the advertising of Millie Bobbie Brown for KOTM

I don’t really hate him, sure he was unnecessary but I was expecting that

a lot of people didn't like Josh but i actually didn't mind him

Finally, someone who actually likes Madison

Even if Rodan had celeb-baiting like KOTM and GVK, it would not work whatsoever.

HinikunaGoji,
It's made $166M world wide off a $185M budget. It hasn't even cleared its budget and still needs to make another $100M+ just to break even. It won't happen.

I fear a solo Monsterverse Rodan movie, for example, would be a similar bust.

sonictiger

Decent doesn’t mean bad. I just wouldn’t expect a superhero movie to be an artistic masterpiece. Though I didn’t go see it so I wouldn’t know.

And after researching Suicide Squad did flop. It only made back 14% of budget

Anyhow, I think Kong needs to fight revamped versions of his 2005 monsters and some original content similar to the Skullcrawlers and Warbats and Hell Hawks.  I think a mix of both is in order.

DECENT?!?!?!? DECENT????? Anyhow, I would say if the movie doesn't have the title of Godzilla or Kong....Yeah, it could flop hard.  And I don't think moviegoers will fall for celeb-baiting for a third time since Millie Bobby Brown was wasted twice.

I already made an article on this, so I'll stop here.

True.

If the Monsterverse is to continue, it can not rely on Toho IP. Including Toho's most popular monsters didn't sell King of the Monsters on the general audience in any territory, even Japan. So spending money on licensing fees for even less popular characters seems like a bad idea. It needs to find a different way to go about things if it has any intention of surviving.

HinikunaGoji,
I was referring to 2021. It's a decent movie and all, but it's relatively obscure comic book material that has become one of the biggest financial flops of the year.

I think doing the same with obscure Toho IP would lead to similar results--Good movie or not.

sonictiger

none, really. I’ve already voiced my thoughts up there

sonictiger

those are monsters Godzilla should fight in my opinion

He can't write good human characters anyways so....maybe he'll do better but I DOUBT IT.

Oh well the 2021 version is amazing.

Also thoughts on the statement?

How about Hedorah or Gigan? That would be cool....

 kong's fought so many lizards it's even a trope on TV Tropes!

Gorosaurus is the only Toho monster that should be in the new Kong movie. He is originally Kong’s monster anyway. I do agree that Kong deserves his own rouges gallery rather than piggy backing on Godzilla’s. I want him to fight some mammalian kaiju too!

Kong. MUTO Prime evolved to hunt and prey on Godzilla’s species so it is more prepared to handle Godzilla than any other Titan. Kong is an alpha and definitely strong and smart enough to take MUTO Prime. He should be able to match its physical strength and is faster and more agile. Kong is also a better fighter who got mad hands. Mid dif Kong with out the axe. Low dif Kong with the axe, but he no longer has it or needs it anymore so I’m sure we won’t see him use it again.

sonictiger

when referring to suicide squad I think it means 2016.

Also to offer my own take, I think the MCU is so successful that anyone will watch it and the critics will adore it no matter the actual quality (example: Captain Marvel) and Toho's monsters have more of that cult status and I think there's potential after the success of Godzilla Vs. Kong.  Unfortunately it's hard to tell given the current rights issue making it's future uncertain.

Also people have flocked to KOTM and GVK solely because Millie Bobby Brown was in it, which sort of repeats Gman's statement about Marvel: "If a movie has the Marvel logo, audiences flock to it."

That's all I have to offer for now, feel free to display your thoughts.

Me too even though The Suicide Squad is a masterpiece

just imagine

out there in hollow earth

there's a sinosauropteryx

Hmmmm.....I don't know

I'm kinda in the mid here

It’s always possible. Since the Hollow Earth shares a lot of similarities with the primordial world from Journey to the Center of the Earth, I could see dinosaurs popping up in the future. 

Observation:
While I'm not entirely sure I agree with Jack's assessment, I do think the MCU is in a unique position to do things other cinematic universes can not. After watching The Suicide Squad flop as hard as it did, (followed by titles like Birds of Prey) I don't think obscurity is bankable for WB.

If a movie has the Marvel logo, audiences flock to it. That's not the case for everything. A solo Mothra or Rodan movie, especially in the current climate blockbusters exist in, is financial suicide. I think Jack's nailed it about one thing though, if there's a chance for a solo film about those monsters it's coming from Toho.

Even then I don't think they have a great shot. As popular of a character as she is, the Mothra trilogy didn't do great business. (Though they were made on much smaller budgets than the Heisei and Millennium Godzilla films--Probably for the best.)

@HinikunaGoji: I feel that Toho making a “World of Godzilla” cinematic universe is our best chance of getting Mothra and Rodan solo films. 

Kong beat Goji with a Goji-Axe.

Kong would have won again if he used his axe in round 3.