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HinikunaGoji

I'm fine with them being the sizes that they are, but I feel like they might be pushing it a little with their constant growth, considering that Godzilla's almost 400ft tall and Ghidorah's over 500ft tall. Personally, I always felt that Godzilla's size in the Heisei series (287-328ft tall) was a good size for him. Going over 400ft seems a bit too crazy (Godzilla Earth being over 980ft tall was way too oversized in my opinion).

sonictiger

I particularly love the intro to KOTM. Bear Mcrearys score was amazing. I saw the movie in IMAX when I first saw it, it was amazing

Smaller is better for tokusatsu. It allows for more detailed miniatures and for the effects style to create more efficient shots that place characters with the monster. Koichi Kawakita once lamented that making Godzilla 100 meters in the Heisei series was a mistake for this very reason and had hoped he would go back to something more manageable in the future. This eventually happened in the Millennium series, of course, but Kawakita was no longer a part of the series by then.

The anime/Hollywood monsters can get away with bigger due to the start-from-scratch, digital nature of animation and CG. But the risk it runs there is making the monsters so big that it's difficult for the characters to relate to them--It certainly makes shots including both more difficult. Sometimes this is the point in order to convey a more "god-like" separation between the two. Other times it's just a nuisance for scenes that include some sort of connection between character and monster.

SasquaDash

Godzilla Reached 300 feet in the 90s…

Honestly I’m fine with it. I don’t want to see a Godzilla that gets absolutely unseeable in skyscrapers.

eh, kind of

MonsterVerse just is amazing with it's intros

SasquaDash

I actually really like the concepts in the anime trilogy, I was more talking about the films finical success, but since we’re here….

I get everything about you’re complaints, but Godzilla Earth is amazing. I feel they nailed him. Even though it takes him 15 minutes to move an inch, he had a very good screen presence to me, and the themes (music and philosophy) really worked and resonated with me. He actually felt god like.

But Monsterverse has a better grasp of the franchise as a whole. They know how to introduce main kaiju in a generally satisfying way. 

HG, I didn't leave anywhere lol.

SD, Legendary only knows because they don't really rely on IP for the most part.

HinikunaGoji

In all honesty, it felt like Polygon didn't "get" the franchise even when they had access to it. It seemed like it was a giant monster trilogy that didn't want to be about giant monsters and it actively tried to avoid having the monsters in it. It seemed like they used the monsters begrudgingly, as if their involvement got in the way. They didn't even seem to understand the monsters that they used in the films, from turning Godzilla into a metallic plant, Mechagodzilla into a city, and Ghidorah into celestial tapeworms, they really seemed to not know what they were doing. That, along with the directors and writers essentially looking down at the the franchise and the fanbase, with some of them even stating how they didn't even bother to watch any of the movies because the felt it was "below them", it's honestly baffling as to why Toho would give them the rights to make anything involving Godzilla. Seriously, the 1998 film felt more inline with what Godzilla was, and that's saying something. People can say what they want about Legendary and the Monsterverse, they at least know what they're doing for the most part, and seem to get the franchise and the appeal of it.

HinikunaGoji

I was just listing an example who worked on the godzilla IP, I would have also mentioned Tri-Star buuuuuut that is a HUGE sore spot for some fans

Xenotaris

I don’t think polygon will get the Godzilla Franchise anymore.

Based on the reception of they’re last outing, I doubt toho would take that gamble, as the anime trilogy didn’t preform amazingly

sonictiger

I know that, but….

Did you leave canada

HG, It's a Stranger Things quote.

Well I did say "Biollante, she is a rose hybridized with Godzilla and Human DNA" so the human part is still there.

What I am trying to say is she is a Human + Rose + Godzilla hybrid. Which is her character core much like Godzilla is a radioactive reptile of sorts, Rodan is a volcanic pterosaur, Mothra a benevolent divine moth and Ghidorah a mostly evil dragon that sometimes comes from space

Xenotaris,
As I mentioned, I don't think it has to specifically be Erika. But I do think a similar human element should be injected.

I was referring to Biollante's connection with Erika, it is inevitable that should Biollante be used again be that Toho, Legendary, Polygon, etc. Biollante would probably have a radical different backstory or suspiciously similar backstory to her Heisei incarnation.

Xenotaris,
Divisions, to varying degrees, I don't particularly care for.

Xenotaris

But as said before, Sarunga is too married to Hinduism. It’s name sarunga, is based on Sharanga the bow of Vishnu. Theres too much mysticism in Godzilla and sarungas roles in the show, that if you take him out. He’s basically just Barbara again

G. H. (Gman) 

This isn't the first nor second time Toho allowed one of their kaiju to be missing a key character to its original creation when in the hands of another studio.

Godzilla and his connection to the atomic bomb

Mothra and her connection to divine motif and her fairy priestesses

King Ghidorah and his surviving human alien victims

Mechagodzilla and his original alien masters

hinukagoji,

i left florida!

The religious and scientific parallels in Singular Point are incredibly central to the story's themes. They really help make the show stand apart from other continuities while also driving home the comparative nature of religion and science found in the series since its inception--Particularly all of Honda's films.

I agree Salunga is too married to those themes to use haphazardly in other continuities. Much like I think Biollante doesn't work as well without Erika as a human component. Perhaps the monster doesn't need Erika specifically, but it needs some form of that humanity infused into its background.

sonictiger

“If anyone asks where I am, I’ve left the country.”

Which country did you leave?

Better be ready, because Godzilla's now looking for his new foe....

wow

On the physics side, i understand perfectly. But I wasn’t expecting the religious themes in the story

monsterzero9

I didn’t figure it out on my own, someone I know had to point it out to me. There’s a lot of Hinduism in the series 

.....hindu?

(i still dont understand singular point)

monsterzero9

I want sarunga to stay in singular point, he fits into the very specific Hindu mythology of the show. Rather than monsterverses mythology.

or they could bring in krystalack and have him be a mixure between goji, homo sapien, and, of course, krystals!

(or they could make sarunga......)

If Legendary doesn't make an original kaiju then they could bring in Biollante, she is a rose hybridized with Godzilla and Human DNA or controversially Bagan, a Godzilla/Ghidorah hybrid.

Makes perfect sense.

Also yeah Madison Russell has dealt with aliens and robots, so a GMO is next probs.

Thug Life indeed, monsterzero9

if only i was awake

which is weird because im normally up until like 1

i think he came around 4 am??

uh someone hook me up with a 'zilla tail because when he comes back, i'll be waiting...

nobody cared :'(

also sonictiger, 

and then you can do that multiple times and then edit it into a music video and make de monys.

whatch out robbers we comin to geet you

What to do if there's a robber in the house.

Step 1:

Step 2:

My plan is come from behind to grab their head and...

Godzilla approves.

why did i post this