Godzilla Vs. Kong: Is It Going To Be A Good Movie Or Bad Movie?

I agree with you SarcasticGoji

SarcasticGoji,
We don't know if it was underwater in Antartica or not, that's merely fan speculation.

But if we're talking about how well written King Ghidorah is, that's the majority of my issue. He's not.

King Ghidorah was more intimidating when characters talked about him than when he was actually on-screen. We constantly have it rammed down our throats how Godzilla's rivalry with King Ghidorah is "legendary", but we don't see King Ghidorah do a lot himself. We never actually see him destroy a city, ala prior movies. He retreats during the first battle after Monarch arrives (of all things), it was confirmed by Dougherty he would've lost against Godzilla in the second battle had the Oxygen Destroyer not intervened and he needed Rodan's assistance after Mothra arrived to help Godzilla in Boston. So much for visual storytelling establishing their rivalry. Not my favorite incarnation of the character by a long shot.

It really highlights just how well his introduction was handled in the original, 1964 debut. In that film there was build up--He was the last monster to show up in the movie, because the film built up to his big reveal, saving him for the final act - We were shown he's an alien, not told, because he landed in a meteor (*gasp* visual storytelling!) - We're highlighted how powerful Godzilla and Rodan are by seeing them pound each other for half of the movie, giving audiences an idea how strong King Ghidorah must be if they have to team up with Mothra - We watch how quickly he can exterminate a single city, especially compared to Godzilla & Rodan - The military don't even bother mounting an attack on him. This is not about comparing which incarnation is stronger. This is about which was established better as a threat in terms of cinematic storytelling and build-up. Honda, Sekizawa and Tsuburaya nailed it. Dougherty and Shields decided to write the least effective route for a villainous nemesis possible. The Monsterverse version just comes off as a bully that needs a world of monsters' help at best.

Destroyah is totally going to be in a future MonsterVerse movie due to the Oxygen Destroyer.  But it doesn't make sense how Ghidorah exactly knew how the ORCA was a machine, it was being used from far away and how did Godzilla not sense the ORCA?

@Gman

I agree, but I didn’t say he was well written. I just liked that he was the villain, not used by aliens. In the anime, it also played on the common Showa storyline of aliens controlling monsters, while Anime Ghidorah controlled the Exif,

Exif sounds like ORCA ngl.

Again, never watched it.

Exif the Alien race that worships Ghidorah. They are also called Xiliens 

ohhh nvm xd

Actually the Exifs are based on the Xiliens, they are not Xiliens themselves

@Xeno

They are inspired by the Xiliens, But the Exif have three names. The Exif, Exiles, and Xiliens. So they are Xiliens, not just inspired

ok

I need to rewatch the Godzilla anime to confirm that

Actually this information comes from the Anime Movies’ Website not in the movies. My theory is that Xilien is their name in their language

They're only called Exif in-film. Toho's English press information for Planet of the Monsters does call the Exif characters Xilliens. It was later copied into their English website. This is the only material that lists the Exif as Xilliens.

So the press mistakenly referred the Exif as Xilliens

Does that not make it Canon?

How did this go from GvK to the netflix anime godzilla?

We talked about KOTM and it’s writing quality (in which many of us have strong opinions on) then to Ghidorah, then Anime Ghidorah (I love the backstory and appreciate them trying something new), to me incorrectly calling Exif Xilliens 

"Canon" may not be the right word. It does seem to solidify them with an alternate name in terms of licensing. But there doesn't seem to be any in-universe reference.

*Sigh* ok goji.  I guess more power to you then.

I mean both Exif and the Xiliens are good at deceiving humanity but the two species function in complete opposites despite their similarities.

Xiliens were known for their ability to control kaiju (including King Ghidorah)

Exif were the ones being controlled by a kaiju

*Cringes in the fact that I've only watched the WB MonsterVerse movies*

I recommend watching the old godzilla films, most are hit or miss but they are fun to watch.

On a side note, most Showa Godzilla movies post-Destroy All Monsters relied heavily on stock footage from previous films except for Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla.

90's Heisei series borrows heavily from certain popular American movies

The millennium series are just stand-alone films except Godzilla against Mechagodzilla and Tokyo SOS

The Reiwa series so far includes one live action movie, Shin Godzilla, while the rest of the current Reiwa movies are anime.

Yeah, but I'll decide after Godzilla Vs. Kong comes out.

Xenotaris,
Not to spiral so far off topic (which we have already), but the Exif being a spin on the Xilliens where they don't have control over the monsters is an interesting direction to take them.

The Bilusaludo were also inspired by the aliens from Blackhole Planet 3 and they were controlled by their "monster" in a psychological reverence as well. Part of the anime's schtick is how the monsters transcend the physical and thematic versions of what we're used too. The turning of the tables on alien races that normally have full control of these things was an excellent way to get that across. So I don't mind the take.

@Gman

I noticed the Bilasaludo thing too.

The Anime also had an interesting that Kaiju were a filter for civilization. Filter being a challenge that only some civilizations can successfully beat. When civilizations be advanced enough, kaiju appear. All these filters are theoretical science in the real world, but I found the concept very interesting.

When talking about the Anime most people complain about the lack of action. I’ve never had that problem. The only thing that I might change is to have the rest of Ghidorah appear and descend on Godzilla after a while to raise stakes. And make Ghidorah more desperate to return to the Void.

I don't have any issue with the Exif being an alternate counterpart to the Xiliens. I was just pointing out the difference between the two species. I would have had the Exif just flat out be xiliens since Toho produced the anime, they shouldn't have any licensing problems

We totally went off topic Gman.

I think it’s a good thing

WHY?

Xenotaris,
Sorta. Toho produced it in the same way they did Legendary's movies. It was Polygon's production, so everything licensed had to be vetted by Toho.

@SonicTiger
Because if we stayed on the same topic the entire time, then the discussion wouldn’t continue

G. H. (Gman)

Oh so Polygon it isn't a subsidiary of Toho, hmmmm