Mothra Leo and Zilla Junior's Birth: A Lazily Made Theory

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You can't really use Ellen Ripley, Batman, or James bond because we know what male and female humans look like but for a creature like godzilla we never get to see any gender variation of his species.

Also we have a female batman, she is called Batwoman or Bat Girl.

We have a female James Bond, generic cat suit spy chick.

We have a male Ellen Ripley, generic space-opera hero dude.

I mean no disrespect to these characters but you can't compare godzilla to human characters for one thing humans get a lot more screen time and have diverse roles.

We do get a male Mothra, his name is Mothra Leo or Rainbow Mothra

Saying that a female tyrannosaurus feels better to call it a he is sexist, that would be like me saying it feels better to call dogs he despite that said he is giving birth or saying all cats are shes when you can clearly see that one of them "girls" has a nut sack!

Xenotaris

No, that's not the same thing. Those are different characters, respectively, each with their own personality, backstory, motives, etc, even if they are similar. Making a female Godzilla would be the same character. Again, not against it, BUT that's why you CAN compare it to a human character, because we always focus on an individual Godzilla. It's like if you said making Mikey from Monsters Inc into a female wouldn't change anything because he's not human. 

Well, by THAT logic, assuming any creature is he or she before, as Ian Malcolm puts it, "lifting up their skirts" is inherently sexist. The only difference between that assumption you make and what Muldoon said is that Muldoon said and acknowledges it. He's not saying it's "better" to call Roberta he, he's saying why they accidentally call Roberta a he instead of she or why they just do that. 

What Lazy said, my point is that Godzilla is a character, (originally)a reawakened irradiated male dinosaur. To use G VS KG as an example: Godzillasaurus is a species of theropod dinosaur, Godzilla is a specific male member of this taxon who has been mutated into a larger creature with the ability to emit an atomic beam from his mouth. So while there could definitely be an onscreen female of Godzilla's species somewhere down the line in a future movie, GODZILLA himself will always be male.

Funny you should mention that, as science has occasionally made mistakes like that, not necessarily by gender bias, but more through a lack of information. Hyenas are an excellent example. Female hyenas are larger than males, and their genitals are actually incredibly similar to the males'. Scientists observing them originally saw the bigger animals bossing the smaller ones around, saw "under the skirt," and based on other carnivore social structures like lions, assumed the big ones in charge were males. That turned out to be dead wrong, but it took more observation and studying of the animal's anatomy before that came to light. These scientists weren't being sexist, they were simply drawing the logical conclusion based on the limited information they had available to them.

Although Toho's official position is Godzilla is always male, Ken Satsuma who played the Heisei Godzilla from 1984-1995 felt a need to play Godzilla's gender ambiguous depending on the movie or scene. He cryptically said:

"When Godzilla shows up, sometimes it’s a male, sometimes a female. If you want to know about the family tree, I can’t tell you. It’s very complicated."

Also when Yoshimitsu Banno tried to fund his own movie, Godzilla: 3D to the Max (which eventually morphed into the 2014 movie), his story treatment claimed Godzilla was female, calling her, "Godzilla: Queen of the Jungle".

The unmade A Space Godzilla would have retconned Godzilla to be a female alien from Godzilla Planet. This is before her pregnant body is turned into a rocket ship by humankind and jettisoned into outer space. So there's that...

Oh yeah, I heard about that last one. Made it to a magazine too, though I feel that kinda puts it in the same position as the Marvel or DC alternate earths, canon but not the "real/prime thing," Whatever constitutes that for Godzilla. :P

Considering there's 12 different canon continuities in the Godzilla franchise...

Hmmm I think I might be using the wrong word but I wasn't calling any scientist sexist. But yeah there were several concepts cancelled films of introducing a female godzilla.

Also Godzilla himself has been in several continuities all of them male or given male pronouns.

Showa has three Godzillas: Original, Second Godzilla, and Minilla

Heisei has three godzillas: Original, Second Godzilla, and Godzilla Jr.

Tri-star has the most Godzillas: Mama "Daddy" Zilla, Zilla Jr, and legions of Baby Godzillas

Millienium has seven godzillas?: Original, Second Godzilla (G2k), Second Godzilla (GvMG), GMK Godzilla, Kiryu Saga Godzilla, Final Wars Zilla, Final Wars Godzilla and Final Wars Minilla (Yes Included Zilla as a type of Godzilla)

Monsterverse has two Godzilla: Dagon/Adam and Godzilla

Reiwa has three Godzillas: Shin Godzilla (not counting his multiform 5th form), Godzilla filius, and Godzilla Earth

Well, Dagon never got a pronoun besides "it." 

"Is... is it him?"

"No... this is much older."

And then Dagon's never referred to again. Dagon was intentionally left ambiguous, so we can wonder what kind of relation Dagon had with Godzilla, if any. 

The Millennium and Reiwa monikers are not continuities but eras.

The Millennium era has 5 continuities. Reiwa has 2.

There are two Godzillas in the Godzilla 2000 continuity.

There's only one Godzilla in the Godzilla x Megaguirus continuity.

Two in the GMK continuity.

Two in the Kiryu Saga continuity.

Two in the Final Wars continuity. (Minilla is the second.)

One in the Shin continuity.

And finally two in the Anime continuity.

G. H. (Gman) "There are two Godzillas in the Godzilla 2000 continuity."

Is there an official source for that? I don't recall that being mentioned in the film. Then again, I've only seen the American version, so it's likely not the most accurate source.

JurassicKaiju14

It's not directly stated if I remember right, but there's two because it's like Godzilla Returns in 1984. It resets the timeline to take place after the first movie, which means that Godzilla 1954 took place. Since the Godzilla in that movie died, that has to mean the one in Godzilla 2000 is a separate individual, especially when considering the very different design and somewhat different powers as well. 

JurassicKaiju14,
Yes. Before godzilla.jp was turned into the Godzilla Store's official website, it was Toho's official Godzilla website.

The godzilla.jp confirmed the Godzilla in Godzilla 2000 was the second after 1954 in the circled paragraph of this screenshot:


Translated to English:
"The huge monster that suddenly appeared at Cape Nofuku in Hokkaido was the second Godzilla after the one that had landed in Tokyo in 1954. This Godzilla appeared in Ibaraki Prefecture and a battle between Godzilla and a huge UFO broke out. Finally, the UFO revealed it was the monster Orga from space that evolved by taking the cells of Godzilla's body!"

Though this isn't mentioned in either the Japanese or American versions, I highly recommend watching the Japanese version for a different tonal take on the film. Not to mention the fact some creepy moments were cut from the American version.

G. H. (Gman) Thanks for the confirmation.

TheLazyFish,
There are exceptions, however. In Godzilla x Megaguirus it's clearly stated that Godzilla attacked in 1954, but was not killed. The events in that continuity do not follow the same events from 1954 that we're used to. That Godzilla appeared in 1954 and returned in 1966 & 1996 before the events of the film in 2001.

The Final Wars Godzilla is the same way. He appeared in 1954, but was not killed. Just sealed away for many years before the X invasion in "20XX".

G.H. (Gman)

Ah, still haven't seen those two I'm afraid. Well, I watched Godzilla V.S. Megaguirus when I was a kid, but it's been so long that I forgot almost everything except my mother made a joke how I'd never do for her what the Meganula did for Megaguirus and that Godzilla survived two black holes lol.

I meant to say Era, not continuity