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To Gareth Edwards: The Direction Style of Godzilla 2

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Umi Kun

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Hello,

This is my first time posting so please excuse any mistakes if there are any.

This is my question/suggestion to Gareth Edwards. I'm take every chance there is that this would actually get to him.

I just bought my Bluray of Godzilla today and after viewing the Extra Content, I see that Gareth Edwards was trying to use this technique where he puts the audience into the places of the people in the movie. Like from inside a car, from a helicopter, from the school bus on the bridge, etc. This is all so that we can get the sheer size and massiveness of the creature that is Godzilla.

My question is: Will he do this again in the second movie ? And below is my suggestion.

While I do understand that if you were to once again "introduce" Godzilla to the audience, it's important to let them know how giant Godzilla is. But in the second film, it would be a battle royale of 4 giant monsters. I believe using the techniques in the first film like the foreshadowing and the teasing (cutting away from battles) a second time would be completely unnecessary and quite honestly, annoying. I can guarantee a disastrously low rating if the Gareth Edwards make the audience approach the second film the same way as the first. And it's not only because the fans will be angry, it's also because then the movie probably deserve a low rating.

When you've chosen 3 monsters from the already existing Toho's Godzilla universe, it's obvious you wanted to appeal to the past fanbase. And these aren't any monsters, they are considered Godzilla's ultimate rivals. When you handle things like that, you need to hand over the spotlight to them.

Bottomline is, please just use the "impossible angles", no-one ever has been labeled guilty for doing that. Less focus on the humans, which most of us don't really care about (except if you can find other Bryan Cranston(s)), and of course, more shots of the monsters. Seriously, 11 minutes of Godzilla out of 123 minutes of a movie titled "Godzilla" is a but ridiculous, don't you think ? Many of us were understanding the new approach but there are many others that feel a bit cheated.

Thank you for reading !

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1.Rodan, Mothra and King ghidorah will not be the only ones godzilla fights in the sequel.

There will be more. Remember Gareth's Monster Island concept for the sequel.

2. The screentime in the movie was not the issue, Godzilla was awesome when ever he was on

camera. 

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Im gonna go ahead and say it as it is; You can have your opinion, and your suggestions. But im very sure Gareth will STILL use the same style. Godzilla wont have much more than 11 minutes of screen time, and the other monsters not much more than 6-7 minutes. Thats what he does, thats how he does. And frankly; Thank god for that.

But how do i know im right? Gareth himself said in an interview thats how he would do it for once. And there is no way he would just all of a sudden change style.

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I'm not sure he'll change his methods either. But I do hope he will insert a more interesting group of characters (but still keeing Serizawa and Vivienne). 

"Daddy's home- cake every night,"

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I don't think HE would change it. I will hope, however, that the studio will MAKE him change it. Anyone with sense over there has to know that even though the movie did well, that it could have done better. And I think the overall critizisms were consistant and fairly obvious.

And just to add, the Bu-ray is a practically worthless load of crap. It's so dark you can barely make out what is happening. Even more frustration from this film. What are these people thinking?

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Ewwwww, what you want is Michael Bay Transformer crap? NOPE.

 

I prefer a story, an actual story. Not just action with action and more action. I like the human perspective field of view and like it a ton more than birds eye views and over the top camera angles. I watch Godzilla movies for both the monsters AND the human characters, because lets face it, if the movie doesn't have ineresting characters dealing with whatever terrible calamity in the wake of these monsters, there really isn't an interesting plot besides monsters brawling, and if that's all they showed there wouldn't be much of a movie. Animal fights usually last less than 20 minutes with either fleeing the victim or the hunter fleeing/dying. It wouldn't make sense to have an hour of battling between Godzilla and a foe, especially since they want these movies to be remotely believable when it comes to animalistic behavior.

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Umi Kun
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@ZillaHater.

Well but the teases would be annoying and pointless because...why tease something people had already seen ?

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@The True Batman

Not exactly. I was just thinking about how the teases would be pointless. There's obviously a lot more from Godzilla that we could have seen, but we just...didn't.

I do want an actualy story, I do. But I want the monsters as well, they are also characters and they need to be treated just like any other human characters. And more screen time for them means, very likely, less screen ime for the human side.

It's not like I said "Screw the humans ! Make only the monsters appear !" I'm just saying more of this and less of that. Maybe from 90% human + 10% Monsters, they can push it up to 70% humans and 30% monsters.

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Just remember that "less is more" with the new Godzilla. For the most part, when he did show up, Godzilla made his appearances count, though I do agree that a bit of extension on those particular parts would be nice. However, I do NOT want any sort of "super full-out" stuff you see in most other films. At all.

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@The-True-Batman

I like I good story too. I don't remeber seeing much of that in this film. In fact, this movie was hack writing at best with nothing original or interesting to offer. My five year old son was able to point out that the killing of the MUTOs brood was the same as the killing of Zilla's brood in 98. And then there's that force feeding of info of as to what Godzilla is and where he came from, with no suspense or mystery surrounding him whatesover. And then there's Brody going from one place, to another, to another, while all the while unable to complete calls to the one dimentional character that is his wife. What was her name? Oh yeah, who really cares.

The first 15 minutes at the power palnt nails it, and then from there, there isn't anything wonderful.

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ThePike- Class A Micheal bay lover :).

Good grief.

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ThePike- So what your saying is, you didnt scream when you saw Godzillas first appearence,

You didnt scream when he used his atomic breath, you didnt scream when he killed the female Muto. And i have a feeling your son really enjoyed the movie but your using him as an excuse to say things that know child could really think of.

Good grief.

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@GorillaGodzilla

Let me get this straight, you're trying to diss a guy for something he didn't say ?

He also said he demands a good story (like all of us do). So CLEARLY, he's no Michael Bay lover. A Michael Bay fan who demands a good story ? Those people don't exist...

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Let's be clear....I don't like, or dislike MB movies. In fact, I haven't seen too many of them. I've seen parts of the first 3 Transformers movies, and quite frankly, can't figure out why some of you people think the story writing is so much worse than Godzilla. None of it is very good. But at least MB gives you something else, that being the Tranformers doing just what you expect-FIGHT! Godzilla gives a thin story, frustrating cut-aways, and short action drenched in utter darkness. So even the fight, which is the thing you most want, can barely be seen.

No, I did not scream when I first saw Godzilla. Should I have? It was cool, sure, but screaming? Really? Although, I did feel like screaming in frustration when they cut away and never returned.

And, my son DID love the movie. Of course, he only saw about 20 minutes of it because he couldn't sit through all the talking. When I told him I wouldn't FF to the fighting, he started to cry. So I did, because it was getting late anyway. So sure, he liked the same stuff we all did. He didn't have to sit through the travels of Ford. Doesn't change the fact that a child spotted an unoriginal idea from a mile away.

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Yeah, the scripting and story could've used some extra work, but at least it doesn't feel as out of place in a movie like this as some of those "action-y-er" flicks where only the explosiveness is of any importance to the whole product.

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-Pike Have you ever seen a Godzilla movie? In almost all of the movies Godzilla only appears for 10 14 minutes, look at Godzilla vs Hedorah, or 1954, or Godzilla vs King Ghidorah or Gigan.

The storys are populated by overall bland characters, with one or two major fights in the film.

Gareth was trying to redo that sort of aspect, and wanting FIGHT FIGHT. And FIGHT FIGHT makes you a Micheal Bay fan.

Good grief.

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Every time Godzilla is on screen it is amazing, just like most Godzilla films.

Good grief.

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@GorillaGodzilla

Now now, let's not try to label people, and let's be real, who's actually a Michael Bay fan lol ?

And besides, since you're such a big Godzilla fan, I'll have to ask if you're really not frustrated everytime they cut away from the battles... If there's 11 minutes of it in 123 minutes, can't they at least actually show him clearly for 1 whole minute in the final battle without the darkness and the smoke shrouding him ?

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Yes there is a whole minute of battle, 11 minutes is fine with me, if Godzilla looks fine and fights amazing.

And no i wasnt frusturated, i loved every minute.

Umi Kun your obviously not a Godzilla fan if you think every film is jsut them fighting.

Godzilal only appeared 8 minutes in Godzilla vs Gigan. 10 ins Godzilla vs king Ghidorah. And get this Destroy all monsters? 7 minutes of Gojira. This is actually a higher screen time then most.

Good grief.

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i have to agree with the umi kun. i was watching the movie with my grandma yesturday and even she thought it was boring. "she kept asling why do they keep cutting away the fight was only starting" i love godzilla but i dont love cut aways. they really are annoying.

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GG...Yes, I have seen every Godzilla movie. I own many of them. I'm forty and have been watching them since I was a young child. For every movie that you mention with the short screen time, there are others with more. G 2000, a little more than 20 minutes of Godzilla, in an hour and a half film. That's JUST Godzilla, not scenes in total. So that's almost half the film. And you know what? I liked that film more. If it had the level of effect as G14, it would blow it out of the water. Most of the Heisi and Millenium films showed a lot of Godzilla, so please stop cherry picking. And although I love the early Godzilla movies, I would not use them as a benchmark for good film making. It's 2014 after all.

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