Do you think Godzilla 2014 will reach $500M at Box Office before TRANSFORMERS aoe does?
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MemberMothra LarvaeJul-05-2014 2:18 AMI know its no biggy but just a thought do you think G2014 will get its 500 million at the Box Office before Transformers 4 does?
Godzilla is at $488 million right now.
while as for Transformers 4 even though its been out for barely a week its already in its 422 Million spot.
I hope Godzila does reach 500 million before transformers though it would mean alot :P
@GMan2887 - I'll keep this short and sweet. Again, the magic word - Projections. It puzzles me why you are even bringing in Pacific Rim, Batman Begins, Man of Steel and Clash of Titans for comparison when there's something clearly different with them to Godzilla 2014. - Their opening figures.
Look, these movies you mentioned dun even open to half as much as the $93M like G14, and certainly of course their targeted projections were different based on their openings. but in fact they all met their projected targets pretty well. You want to talk about Batman Begins? While it didn't do well overseas, it was a hit domestically and even got an Oscar nomination. That's what prompted the sequels that followed because it showed promise. And Man of Steel? Despite being a reboot from the not-so-popular 2006 Superman which left a bitter aftertaste, Man of Steel still earned $668 million at the box office. It opened at $116m in the US, of course the projection was going to be higher, and again it did meet its targets. It earned $291m in the domestic office. And Clash of Titans? Nobody's expecting a movie which opened to just $63 million to break any records. It still went on to make $493m on a budget of $125m.
So I dun get why you kept bringing in these titles to compare with G14 when its like comparing apples to oranges. And please, I cringed whenever you keep making it sound like Godzilla is a new-born infant in the movie industry that its failures today should be overlooked when it had a hell of a 60-year history and the King of Monsters title to back it up, and the fact that record-numbers of audiences turned up to catch Godzilla 2014 is proof of that. It's only the fallout after the 2nd week that's telling a different story.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
DestroyahX- I have been reading these posts. I didnt want to have to reply, And im not going to as of now, But i am soon, If this rant continues.
Good grief.
@BigBadBen: I almost forgot to reply your question. Yes, you are definitely one of the memorable ones on my list. On a light-hearted note though, because of your profile avatar, I always feel like I am speaking to the 'Undertaker' himself. :P
@Kaijujira: We have the latest box-office tally.
Godzilla 2014 - $488.9 million
Transformers Age of Extinction: $575.6 million
So Transformers hits the $500m mark first.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
Destroyah. Transformers is a much more populaur american franchise than Godzilla, Also parents can take their 5 year olds to see transformers, They couldnt take them to see Godzilla.
Godzilla got most of the teenage to adult audience, Transformers is getting every age group. Not to mention Transformers is expected to make 1 billion dollars. Godzilla was expected to make 700 to 800 million, 98 Still left a putrid sewer like taste in fans mouths, So they avoided this one, But after seeing how good it is they will see the sequel. And the sequel will be like the dark knight to batman begins. Btw Transformers has a 17% on Rotten tomotoes Godzilla has a 74% Much higher likeing froms the audience.
Good grief.
@GorillaGodzilla77897 - I'm glad you pointed out Batman Begins, but on the contrary, I think Godzilla will follow the path of Clash of Titans where it's sequal, the Wrath of the Titans, didn't do better than its predecessor. Unless some fixing is done.
Batman Begins first opened at a low $48 million because audiences weren't ready to accept the new reboot, considering the years they have been exposed to a plethora of Batman movies. I was one of those who didn't bother to catch Batman Begins because we would probably get the same thing we've seen before. But when the first wave of audiences gave their thumbs up to Batman Begins, along with many critics backing this dark reboot, many people in the US turned up to catch the movie, which is why Batman Begins earned more domestically than it did overseas, while the foreign market was still skeptical about the reboot. The result is of course a $206 million taking in the US, while the overseas market only contributed $167 million. Of course Batman Begins was nominated for an Oscar but did not win the award.
Next, let's talk about the sequel to Batman Begins - The Dark Knight. This movie didn't simply go boom because it rode on the coattail of its predecessor, nor was it because it was critically-acclaimed. It was the untimely death of Heath Ledger which cast a huge publicity spotlight on The Dark Knight, because Heath struggled with his role as Joker so seriously that he died as a result of it. This ignited the curiosity of the public greatly over Heath's role as the Joker, and how dedicated the star was. Needless to say, the public turned up in record numbers in the US to show their support for Heath's dedication, resulting in a domestic turnover of $534 million. The foreign market again was less supportive, but still managed a good $469 million, netting the movie over $1 Billion in combined sales.
As for Godzilla 2014, it's sequel is expected to have no such 'untimely' publicity like what The Dark Knight received (unless someone is gonna die tragically for real for his/her dedicated role in Godzilla's sequel), otherwise your guess that Godzilla's sequel is going to do much better is just empty speculation, because you do realize not many sequels in the movie industry go on to earn bigger bucks unless they happen to be heavyweight champions in the industry.
In the case of Godzilla 2014, it did open big, but we are not gonna deny that it lost steam, and when sales numbers aren't matching projections, then most definitely its not holding up well against the competition, and also because audiences are shunning the movie since the people who've watched it aren't recommending Godzilla 2014 well enough to others around them. The fact that Godzilla 2014 is the #1 weakest performing movie now in the $90-million opening league is already very telling. A tonne of movies that opened between $80 - $95 million all commanded figures well beyond $580 - $700 million and $1 Billion, while G14 is still stuck at a measely $488m, and there's still doubt if it would ever hit $550 at the end, and even at $550, would still make it an epic underperformer in the industry. This analogy is the same like taking an Exam Test in school isn't it? When you score an 'A' for your 1st section, it is expected that you would score an 'A' grade for your next 2 sections of your paper. But when start off with an 'A' only to end off with a 'C' in the last two sections, do you call it a success? :)
Like I've mentioned before, nobody cares about ratings. The majority of the millions of people out there are not like movie critics who watch and review tonnes of movies nor are they out looking for something artistic. People only want to watch a movie to de-stress themselves and have fun at the end of the day, why bother to stress themselves out like the critics of the movie industry?
That's why movies like Transformers Age of Extinction, despite how brainless or dumb critics call it, still earns a tonne of money, because critics are not representative of the millions of audiences at the end of the day. Do you know why Godzilla 2014 failed to replicate that kind of success? Because there was simply no fun-factor in watching the movie. Just when the explosive scene's about to take place, it just keeps cutting to the humans, the humans and the humans. You do it once, its fine, you repeat this 3-4 times, its pretty much a turn off. Even the final battle scenes just can't resist cutting to the humans once more. No wonder many general audiences dun see the need to recommend Godzila 2014 to others other them. Imagine if Michael Bay does the same thing in Transformers Age of Extinction. Just when the battle is about to take place, he keeps cutting the scene to the babes or the hunks. I'm sure people in the cinema will be trashing pop-corn at the screen and swearing. You get my point. :)
So do you think audiences will want to catch a Godzilla sequel knowing they may expect the same cutting to take place again? I can't tell you now how Godzilla's sequel will perform, but one thing I can say for sure is Godzilla's sequel will never open as big as G14. People will be wary first before they decide to jump on the bandwagon. The only thing Gareth Edwards can redeem himself now is to work on the storyline, work on his direction, and convince the movie audience in the next round well enough for them to recommend the sequel to others, so that the sales momentum can progress steadily, and not like what's happening now.
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
DestroyahX- Your starting to sound like a ranter, Calm it down. I dont think you have noticed, But Godzilla 2014 has gotten mostly positive feedback. My friend works at Fox news, And he told his coworkers to watch it, And they all loved it and told there friends, And there friends loved it to. All movie reboots are suspicious, Godzilla 98 left a bad taste for reboots, And after some lousy critics said there wasnt enough fighting and bad storyline, Those people stayed away from it. Destroyah X, You have to except that all sequels most likely do better than there predessesors, By the way you confirmed that in your text when you said, "Batman begins opened low cause audiences werent ready to except a reboot." Thats what some Godzilla fans felt like. Im not a fan of walls of text like you are, But i will tell you this. Godzilla 2014 made 160 million domestically in its first week, Transformers just made that much. And like i said before parents take there children to see transformers, While Godzilla was running mainly on adults and teens.
Good grief.
@GorillaGodzilla - Actually the more you speak, the less credible you've become. Lest you embarass yourself any further, Transformers is PG-13. Same goes for Godzilla. Oh sure, Godzilla was running mainly on adults and teens, but we have Godzilla figure and toys for sale for KIDS. *Face-palm*
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
@GorillaGodzilla77897 -
It doesn't make you look any more intelligent when you try so hard to irritate me by spouting nonsensical facts that come off your head. I say try harder. :) You claimed that Godzilla made $160 million in just the first week. Did you check the Box Office Mojo? Godzilla in its 52nd day debut is still at $197 million. So based on your claim, this means G14 took 45 more days to earn just another extra $37 million? The more I read your claims, they are as good as Fan-Fiction. Which is why I've said the more you conjure up untrue facts, the less credible you've become.
It is people like you here who represent the worst kind of fan there is to Godzilla, with no ability to accept both its positive points and its shortcomings. I'm not surprised lately this place has become much of a dead town. The folks who have the ability to reason, apparently have all gone missing in action it seems. I guess discussions and debates have become meaningless here thanks to fanatics like you who are devoid of reason, so much so that you were even willing to state false facts just to prove your point. How childish. Please continue to drive people away from this forum. Thanks. :)
" Your kind feared the Darkness. "
Ok, guys i thought we were done with this whole debating thing on how successful the movie was, at least we are getting a sequal and that might be the only one we get depending on how successful it is. No need to engage in a flame war here anymore guys.
@gorillagodzilla,
I appreciate you standing your ground with the new godzilla film, but there in absolutly no need to call someone out or make a challenge to someone over a freaking movie, i have to admit this crap is really getting old quick, so out of the kindness of my heart please let this stuff go, us moderators have our jobs to do and that is keep balance stored here on these forums. Thank you for your co-operation. :)
@destroyah-x,
No need to tell us where godzilla stands right now, yes the movie got what it needed to make a sequal, yes it doesn't meet with the standards on the other movies and that is because people are not that interested in a giant fire breathing dinosaur.
I completely agree with gman2887 on all of his statements, so lets bury this crap in the past and move on with our regular lives as we should. Thank you. :)
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Bigbadben- Sorry i started debateing again.
DestroyahX- Lets not start fights like are last arguement, But let me just say one thing to you, I mean it in the nicest way possible, You and me have a equal and opposite reaction with opinions, You are stating that i am a blinded fan who only thinks the movie was great, But you technically have been blinded into only thinking the movie is poop. Sorry for my language, But we both have fun with the movie it was a nice addition, But not without its flaws.
Good grief.