Why there might be two Godzillas

My idea is that the HALO jump scene is part of the climax. I DID read something along the lines of a huge surprise in the movie somewhere, particularly near the end of the film. But I think a Godzilla vs Godzilla fight would be kind of a ripoff (at least if they looked the exact same). Perhaps there is a true big bad that is revealed towards the end?

This theory seems to be similar to the "Star Wars Episode 3" thing where Anakin was part of the climax, and not a completely different "thing" from Obi Wan. It sounds confusing, but I just wasn't too fond of that idea. 

Quote: ok, I totally agree that it could be Godzilla. However, I just can't see how that it being "Godzilla vs. a Muto" would be such a highly-secretive plot point. After all, the reviewers ARE talking about other monsters, so the fact that Godzilla is going to be fighting them can't possibly be "400% more awesome". After all, just about EVERY Godzilla movie ever made (exc 1954 & 1998) have him fighting other giant monsters.

-You know, that is actually a a pretty good point. I have thought about this when reading descriptions of the 20 minute sneak peak, and it seemed too late to go as far to call a fight with the Mutos spoiler material. If it was the bigger Muto that Godzilla was fighting, then why would it be so "spoilery" considering how the embargo date ends in less than 2 weeks. Hmm...  interesting

I think the 400x more amazing quote could mean a number of things, but I'd put it more along the lines of a potential very close homage to an old foe rather than 2 Godzilla

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Well they did say something along the lines of Godzilla fighting SOMETHING. And that is why I have doubts about the big surprise being the 8 legged Muto, because we already know what it looks like

It's been speculated that the 8 legged muto isn't the big boss monster for a while. It's the flying 1 that is getting all the attention, and is thought to hold that title. A lot of Godzilla's most popular friends and foes are flying(Rodan Ghidrah, mothra) so a homage would most likely take form from that monster.

I think the winged Muto is the smaller of the two. The 8 legged Muto is apparently supposed to be the brute in this case

The last quote means absolutely nothing as far as what the final scene depicts. All it says is that the teaser trailer gave us a glimpse of Godzilla for the purpose of giving us a glimpse at Godzilla. Nothing more. The teaser trailer where we see Godzilla during the Halo jump is obviously made only for that teaser, and the real scene will show something different.

It truly is as simple as that RF.

What you're doing with these quotes is you're trying to force your own desires and wishes to see something that you consider awesome like a Godzilla vs. Godzilla battle into them, and you're misinterpreting the information that's being provided. It's a very common mistake. Also, quotes aren't facts. They're quotes. Facts are literally "indisputable" pieces of information, and a quote can be disputed all day every day.

Observe! (please ;P)

"We also learned a plot point that makes the film 400% more awesome." That's an opinion, and it's got absoutely no meaning whatsoever except to say that the person who it comes from thought the movie would be 400x more epic than they originally expected based on what they saw in the footage. Does that mean there's another Godzilla? Absolutely not. Where you're getting that idea from? I have no idea.

The second quote simply states that Gareth asked them not to talk about the monsters, but this has been the case since the beginning. Ever since the 2012 comic con, details about the Mutos have been hidden and asked to remain confidential. It's nothing new.

The third quote also says nothing about another Godzilla. All it says is that in Gareth's opinion, watching a movie with a monster like Godzilla, most people want to see it fight something other than humans. That's all it says. Gareth believes that most people want to watch monster vs. monster. However, what else exists in the movie besides Godzilla? Muto monsters. There is nothing in that quote to say that there is another Godzilla in there.

The fourth quote, as I stated already, simply states that the teaser trailer's Halo drop scene is different than what's actually in the final movie. That is nothing new. Lots of trailers show scenes that don't make it into the final movie. Again, there is nothing to say that another Godzilla is in the movie in that fourth quote.

The picture you posted just shows a big, flat, red claw/spike of some kind. Does it bear a resemblance to Zilla's spines? Yes, but where are the rest of them? Given the angle, if it were Zilla or another Godzilla, then you would have to see the rest of them since there is a bit of symmetry to both creature's spines. There aren't any other spines/spikes in that picture. The chances it's Godzilla are pretty much zero.

Its a theory bro... He can speculate if he wants to. If there is a major spoiler involved (which there is), it is obviously more than just showing Godzilla or not. 

I personally think these early screeners are talking about The Muto monsters. Remember the toy leak came "after" this 20 minute screening. I think that these people were just wowed with the BIG Muto in the 20 minute clip, since they had no idea what it looked like including 99% of us at that time. The key to remember is the 20 min screening was "before" the toy 

When they said they were sworn to secrecy about things my first thought was they were protecting the identity of Godzilla's main foe. I know we've been ove rthis a thousand times - there aren't any other classic Toho monsters in this film excet Godzilla - but I'm starting to think that's not true and we will see modern re-imaginings of some classic monsters. We've already seen a good candidate for Rodan diving into the ocean so...yeah...I think when they jump in they're going to get an up close and personal look at Rodan for the first timeas he takes on Godzilla.

Quote: I personally think these early screeners are talking about The Muto monsters. Remember the toy leak came "after" this 20 minute screening. I think that these people were just wowed with the BIG Muto in the 20 minute clip, since they had no idea what it looked like including 99% of us at that time. The key to remember is the 20 min screening was "before" the toy

-Then why were they asked to keep it a secret from Gareth Edwards? The embargo itself will end on the 17th of this month, as the pictures from Sunday were only leaks. It makes no sense to treat such a thing like a spoiler if we already know that Godzilla will be fighting other monsters, let alone when the toy embargo ends in about a week and a half.

Quote: I personally think these early screeners are talking about The Muto monsters. Remember the toy leak came "after" this 20 minute screening. I think that these people were just wowed with the BIG Muto in the 20 minute clip, since they had no idea what it looked like including 99% of us at that time. The key to remember is the 20 min screening was "before" the toy

-Then why were they asked to keep it a secret from Gareth Edwards? The embargo itself will end on the 17th of this month, as the pictures from Sunday were only leaks. It makes no sense to treat such a thing like a spoiler if we already know that Godzilla will be fighting other monsters, let alone when the toy embargo ends in about a week and a half.

Movie title: Godzilla
Not Godzillas.

I think it'd be a really generic idea and it would come off as uncreative to the general public.

@everyone

just wait until more information is leaked that is 100% proof of this or better yet wait until the movie :)

Just my silly opinion......I would like to think that something "BIG" is coming, but most of those screeners were not hardcore G-fans like us. I just think that they saw a Muto and creamed there pants. Most of those people came in with the mind set that Godzilla was going to just rampage a city alone.....lol. These guys (screeners) dont hit up these forums like hardcore G fans like us......they got dozens of movies/ shows to review that most dont even deal with Kaiju. I just think they went in open minded and were blown away by the CGI. I may be wrong about that theory but until something concrete comes out and I aint talking about this brilliant PR game of secrecy that Gareth Edwards is playing.......I am staying grounded......Go Godzilla.

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Just got home from work and I'd like to respond to a detailed critique (thank you!)

@TW_G-FAN2014  With all due respect, I think you are missing the forest for the trees. Yes, we can evaluate each quote separately rather than as a group and determine that they don't say much. THIS IS TO BE EXPECTED because each writer was sworn to secrecy so they are trying to not give away anything.

But they do each give away a slightly different part of the "forest", allowing us to step back and see something larger in their comments (which I never called facts, btw).

For starters, they all agree that there is something big that has not been divulged yet... one calls it a "400% more awesome plot twist". Another calls it "something huge" added to the skydiving scene. Another calls that scene "every bit as dramatic" and "not what you expect".

Ok, if someone wants to look at that and conclude "Godzilla fights a giant bug", then by all means do so.

I don't see it that way at all. I think the writers are hinting at something bigger, more dramatic, and in the HALO jump scene in SF.

What is it? I don't know, but I seriously doubt that it's a MUTO. There were several already hinted at BEFORE the 20-minute preview was given and, like I said, Godzilla already has a long established history of fighting monsters.

Why do I think it might be a "Godzilla-like" kaiju? I don't know. I'm grasping at straws and hoping someone else has a better idea. I did show a screenshot going around showing what appears to be Gojira spines that don't match Godzilla as an example, but I am open to other possibilities.

But that it's just a MUTO/bug? That's not worth the secrecy.

did you guess ever think it could be either a monster with g dna or a really big monster that is a hoamge of an iconic toho monster (from the showa if you think the heisei monsters are iconic). and i find the latter the most sensible

@GodzillaFan1995

There are some really cool Toho monsters and, of course, some really terrible ones too!

However, the director has been adamant that Godzilla is the only Toho monster so I really don't think there will be any others -- are any that are too similar for obvious intellectual property considerations.

So if it's another kaiju, it's probably an original. I have a warm spot for Ghidorah, so I would love to be wrong, lol.

i said a HOMAGE 'not' the actual toho monsters monsters