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How Many Monsters Is This Movie Going To Have???

Madison

MemberMothra LarvaeFebruary 26, 20143406 Views8 Replies

So I know most people are assuming just 2 Muto's from the toy announcements awhile back (talking about a winged Muto, and an 8-legged Muto), but I'm beginning to think there may be A LOT more. 

1. Winged Muto (the one diving into the water that people keep talking about being Rodan). I'm not sure if it this is actually Rodan, but it definitely is another monster. Key Point Here: It's NOT very big. When compared to the plane falling into the water behind it, as the ships in the distance, this monster is only a few times larger than planes it's destroying, and SMALLER than the ships....which Godzilla has already been showing to MUCH larger than the ships. 

2. The Claw/Hook Monster: It's HUGE. It can't be the 'winged' Muto #1. It looks way more like a leg to me than a wing, but either way, that hook was WAY TOO BIG to belong to the winged Muto we saw earlier. My guess is this may be the 8-legged Muto. 

3. 2013 Comic-Con/Airport Monster. For those who saw the footage, they described a SMALL, multi-limbed monster. Probably NOT #1 because of the multi-limbed thing and lack of wings, but it POSSIBLY could be #1, if the wings/limbs are just tucked in for different shots respectively. The size of #1 and #3 seem to be similar at least. Can't be #2 because it's tiny (relatively speaking)

4. The Spiked Monster destroying the railroad (shout out to E.T.N. for this one). If you slow down the trailer during the railroad destruction scene, you see the spines of a monster tearing it apart as it moves under the tracks. But those spines ARE NOT Godzilla's. They just don't match the description. Spikes are too big to for this one to be #1 or #3. It's possible the spines are home to #2....maybe. 

5. The Centipede Monster from 2012 Comic-Con? I know...I know...it was 'concept' footage. But almost ALL of the other 'concept footage' shown made it into the December teaser, and is probably in the movie. So I honestly think that Centipede Monster IS in the movie somewhere. It's huge, so can't be #1 or #3. No spines or giant hook claws, so it can't be #2 or #4. 

6. Tentacle/Nuke absorbing Monster. Granted, that appendage could really belong to ANY of the other listed monsters, or it could be eggs instead of a monster at all. I'm less confident about this one, but who knows....maybe. 

7. The monster who left the skeleton behind. I don't think this is Godzilla's skeleton. It just doesn't look like it. No spines/limbs. Not wide enough. This monster looks long dead, so I don't think we'll actually see it in the movie, just it's remains, so I don't think that counts, but still, a weaker possibility. 

8. That surprise cameo TOHO Monster that hasn't been shown at all in the trailer imo, and I'm 99% sure doesn't exist in the first place, but everyone seems hell bent on believing in.

If #2 and #4 are the same, and #1 and #3 are the same, while #'s 5-8 are either non-existent or a part of #1/#3 or #2/#4, then that does technically leave us w/ only 2 monsters....but I'm doubtful that's the case.

So that's my tally. AT LEAST 2 new monsters, probably 3-5, and POSSIBLY up to 8 or more new monsters for this movie. 

What do you guys think? Only 2? Different interpretations of things we've already seen? Any monsters you may have caught that I missed here?

 

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RodozUl
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Well surely we have at least two in the movie, I hope three, and maybe a reference of another one previously killed by Godzilla could appear.

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Its really...A confusing mess. Not your thread, but all the distorted clips. But I`ll try to answer your questions.

I believe that what we are seeing are creatures that are simmiliar to each other. I believe them to be a reptillian/insect mix. And i believe there are only about three. My proof? Jack s***. No, i have nothing. But at this point, its as good as anything. 

Also, number six looks more like an eggsack to me. Why is it on a nuke? Well, think about it. In the forrest scene, we see them find something nuclear, and its covered in goey-stuff. I really think there are some egg-laying stuff from the enemy monsters.

Number 5, there i no way i will ever end up believing it to be in the movie. Why? It was in the concept trailer, and has never been shown since in any promotional stuff. Just keep that in mind.

7 i think belongs to a dead, unmutated Godzilla. Again, no proof, just guessing. For my theory to work, it couldnt be a MUTO since insect dont have skeletons like that as far as i know. My biology is slipping.

And 8... *BEEP* 8.

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I know we have a lot of time till May to get nuts about the details. And I admire your forensics, Madison, no doubt!

But I LOVE how little we are being shown, right now. It just kills me how so many movie producers (because I don't think the directors would do this) get cold feet down the home stretch, and just start revealing EVERY good thing about a movie. Can't tell you how many flicks I've just decided NOT to see, because I felt I'd seen just about every worthwhile moment in the trailers.

This second trailer? Outstanding, because it's still CREATING new mysteries for us to ponder and geek out on until May, not ANSWERING them! Though I know it's impossible, I'd be perfectly happy if very little else is revealed until show time. Maybe some more character/relationship fleshing out, because I think that like the best of em' ('Pitch Black' and 'Monsters'are perfect examples) this is going to be a character-driven masterpiece as much as a special-effects driven one. 

We've got a REAL question here: if 'Pitch Black' and 'Monsters' were, by their directors' own admission, script/character-driven due to a LOW special effects budget, and we all know that however much we loved 'Chronicles of Riddick', it surely collapsed under its own weight because director David Twohy was given a BIG budget, then can Gareth Edwards defy expectations by turning in the best of both worlds, a script/character-driven big-budget masterpiece?

I'm betting YES. What say you?

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i have a feeling that there is a godzilla clone or complete freak of nature that has godzilla's dna

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Madison
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@ FELIS, I totally agree with you on the trailer not being spoiler-rific. For example, I really don't see what the point is in seeing this new Spiderman movie in theaters anymore because of how much they have given away. Their marketing took it from something I was going to see as a matinee a few weeks later, to something I'm just gonna Redbox or stream online. 

For Godzilla, we G-Fans all know there are going to be new monsters in this movie because we've been following it, but for general audiences, I've loved reading/watching the youtube comments and trailer reviews where it's JUST NOW dawning on people that there will be other monsters in the movie and that's ALL they know :-) So for them, it's built up intrigue and curiosity to go SEE the movie and what it is all about. 

I dunno, that trailer did a better job of selling tickets that weren't already pre-sold of any trailer for any movie that I've seen in a LONG TIME.

As far as whether or not Gareth Edwards will be able to avoid the 'big-budget' pitfalls that have plagued directors in the past, I would have to say yes. Partially because I'm biased with fanboyism and hype. And partially because I don't believe Gareth could have assembled THAT cast if there wasn't substance to the characters/plot in the movie. If the movie had all weaker actors or only ONE star, I'd be nervous. But they got several respectable people who wouldn't have signed on to a cheesy, one-dimensional production.

@GODZILLAFAN1995: I'm not sure about Godzilla's DNA, but I do think there will some sort of link/vampirism or something connected with the fact that Godzilla is a radioactive monster, and at least one of the Muto seems to feed on radioactive energy. 

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I disagree w/ you on #5. Even if it's a minor monster, something killed by the Japanese military in a flashback sequence, I do feel we will see SOME rendition of that centipede monster in the film. It seems a waste of resources to design/render something in that detail to not use it at all. I'm not saying it will fight Godzilla, or be important to the plot, but I do strongly feel we will see it. 

#6. Yeah, those definitely may be eggs instead of a monster. Regardless of what it is, I do think it's cool, the link they are drawing between the Muto's and radioactivity. Maybe they'll have a scene where Godzilla blasts a Muto with his breath, and all that makes it do is grow in size and power? 

#7 You're right, insects don't have skeletons like that, so those wouldn't be insectoid remains. I'm not sure though that all the Mutos are insectoid. 

#8 LMAO... hahaha, yeah I'm with you on that one :-)

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I'm just taking a closer look here at the "Rodan" monster. I took a picture of the one in the trailer, and compared it to the 2004 Final Wars Rodan.

In my opinion, they look similar. Here is another picture of Rodan flying:

You also said not much larger than a plane, and the 2004 rodan and this older one look very similar to the creature we saw in the trailer.

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It was neat seeing the flying Muto pictured in the trailer. Someone on the Toho Kingdom Forum made this animated gif (from the trailer) of the Flying Muto in another scene...

...and this comparison image of the Muto Train scene and that flying scene...

So I still think it will be the 2 Mutos (one winged and one land based). I know the trailer showed an egg looking thing at one part, making me wonder if we will see multiple baby Mutos.

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I really like the way you think. Unfortunately, I believe that Godzilla will fight only two monsters, the winged one and the 8 legged one (which is likely aquatic). I really love the design of the thing in the 2012 teaser; it was almost like a multi legged monitor lizard, really cool. And while it is definitely possible that the red spines destroying the bridge are those of it or something similar, many people have their doubts. We will have to wait and see (I actually theorized that it was the 8 legged muto). But to go along with what you said:

1 and 2. I believe the winged muto IS the clawed one. It was described as having claws

3. I also think that was the winged muto. According to many sources, the winged monster is so much smaller and weaker than Godzilla

4 and 5. Personally, this seems to line up perfectly. The 2012 monster is both reddish in color, somewhat spiky, and 8-legged. It is entirely possible that this is the thing destroying the bridge

6. I think these were actually Muto eggs, not a tentacle

7. I believe this is belonging to a species of Godzilla

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