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ChrisRemix Funny enough, in my rewrite, I actually planned on having Emma get shot through the head by Jonah after the ORCA proved to be no longer necessary when Ghidorah takes control. I've since decided against it, and I'm now switching over to simply fleshing out her arc and improving it's execution. I kind of view her as a representation of the folly of Man; she believes that she can bend the world to her will to solve a perceived problem, it blows up in her face and instead causes more chaos, and she then realizes that her actions aren't going to get her the balance that she wanted and will instead result in extinction, so she tries to fix it. And she can't even really do that. All she really does is distract Ghidorah long enough for Goji to get his third wind and fry him to death. But even then, the damage is still done.
As for Ghidorah, not to sound like a broken record, but I'm certain that the MonsterVerse, as it is now, is only meant to go up to Godzilla vs. Kong. I'm going into this movie just assuming that it's going to be the last one.
Whatever Ghidorah did in KOTM, it's going to have a lingering effect on the plot of GvK. The world of the MonsterVerse wouldn't be in the state it's in now if it weren't for him. He's literally changed everything. Ghidorah himself may be gone, but his impact is still going to be felt in the events of this movie. And that's not even considering that somebody might buy off Kevin from Alan Jonah and use it to create something worse.
Let me give you a non-Godzilla example; the Green Goblin from 2002's Spider-Man. Goblin is one of Spider-Man's arch-enemies–probably the worst–and they used him in the first movie. Some would argue that was a waste, having him so soon. But then in Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 3, the Goblin's actions end up having a profound effect on Peter Parker's life, especially in regards to his friendship with Harry Osborn. Goblin may have showed up comparatively early, but he left a lasting impact on the series.
dk At least they developed. The most development we got out of 2014 was Joe Brody changing from alive to dead.
he could still potentially turn on us if we do something he doesn't like
Agree. I would like to see this happen. This basic point was debated here:
https://www.scified.com/topic/49432
It would be the complete culmination. After that, to add insult to injury, the last scene of a movie would show the world carrying on without humanity.
JurassicKaiju14 KOTM characters were good but didn't seem to really develop until about a third of the way in. After that, yes, they were very good.
@JurassicKaiju14 The prequel film I stated above would completely be in Godzilla’s perspective. Its his story, through his eyes with the audience witnessing the journey to fight Ghidorah for the good of the planet. KotM’s characters lacked some depth. I personally believe Emma shouldn’t have had a redemption moment. She was solidified as a villain because of her belief and they attempted to redeem her later on by showing she changed because of Madison. If anything, she should’ve just stayed a villain who gets what she deserves in the end. That would’ve played out a lot better. Her dying still believing in her jaded cause. Ghidorah was definitely shown off too early. He IS the main threat and should be treated as such with a proper slow buildup to his grand finale. With the Monsterverse ending with a pure, god-like battle for the world with Godzilla, Mothra, and Rodan against the biggest evil the world now faces: *King* Ghidorah.
UNPOPULAR OPINION: Final Wars Godzilla is OP to the point where he's honestly just not that interesting for me.
And MonsterVerse!Godzilla is a "wimp" as you say because he wasn't meant to be a hyper-powerful super-duper Godzilla; he was meant to be a more realistic take on the character. It's only with KOTM that the more Toho-elements of the character are making the transition over to him.
I do agree that Ghidorah showed up a bit sooner than I thought he would, but then again, I don't think Warner Bros. really planned for the MonsterVerse to go on for as long as us fans hope it will. The initial plan after 2014 only went as far as Kong: Skull Island, Godzilla: King of the Monsters, and Godzilla vs. Kong. I think the latter is meant to be the soft-ending point for the MonsterVerse; if it succeeds, then more installments may be in the future. If not, well, at least they got their original saga completed without it getting smacked down in it's birthing stages like Universal's monster universe.
I personally feel like Ghidorah was made menacing enough in KOTM, but I do agree that, as cool as they made Mothra, I would have liked to see them do a little bit more with her. Oh well. Maybe if GvK succeeds, she could wind up with a solo movie of her own. I like to think that she somehow rushed her metamorphosis in KOTM so she could aid Godzilla sooner, so it would be an interesting opportunity to show off what the Queen of the Monsters can really do.
I think I'd really like to see a movie where the focus is really on Godzilla himself. Both 2014 and KOTM have been about him fighting some bigger threat, but I'd like to see a movie where Godzilla is the center of the problem. I've seen a lot of people derogatorily describing the MonsterVerse Godzilla as a hero, which he's not–he's more of an anti-hero at best; he's fighting for his own agenda, and we're just ants to him. I think I'd like to see a movie that reminds us that, as much of a natural guardian as he is in the MonsterVerse, he could still potentially turn on us if we do something he doesn't like.
dk, I actually liked KOTM's characters better than 2014. Rewatching the latter, it felt more and more like these were just people that the camera happened to be following around. Ford's near-constant run-ins with the creatures kept happening to the point where it was actually kind of ridiculous.
By contrast, KOTM's characters felt to me like actual characters. They changed and grew over the course of the film based on their experiences, or the consequences of their actions. Mark Russell comes to understand that, even with all the death and destruction he may bring, Godzilla is not necessarily the enemy he thought he was. Emma Russell, meanwhile, realizes that her frantic scheme to "save the world" has only resulted in far more destruction than humanity could ever hope to achieve in almost the blink of an eye, and sets out to undo the damage she's caused in her misguided crusade. The dialogue is rather weak in spots, of course; I won't deny that I could have written the movie better (and I am, as a matter of fact), but I think the concepts and ideas are definitely there.
I don't think the creatures should be killed off. I see the franchise to be about balance and KOTM is the one who keeps it. Kong was OK but I just don't see him besting a creature with nuclear breath.
I found both movies lacking a bit with characters. Without good characters, no amount of action or effects can mask that short coming. Hopefully GvK is delayed to flesh out characters we can care about.
I guess here's my recreation of the joke? It's not really that good lol.
You're a mean one, Lazy Fish
You're as clumsy as a banana peel
You're as authentic as a catfish, you're as nice as an eel, Lazy Fish
Dear God, do you really need that big a meal?!!
You're a toddler, Lazy Fish
Your stomach's an empty pit
Your hearts covered in urchins, your soul is glued to a couch, Lazy Fish
I wouldn't reel you in with a thirty nine and a half foot fishing pole!
You're a vile one, Lazy Fish
You have fungi in your gills
You're as lazy as a feverish pancake crocodile, Lazy Fish
Between the two of you for a job, I'd hire the crocodile!
You're uglier than Death's scowl, Lazy Fish
You look like a used paper towel
Your face makes me want to howl, you're incredibly foul, Lazy Fish
The three words that best describe you are as follows, and I quote, "The, Lazy, and Fish!"
You're not a good plotter, Lazy Fish
You never follow through, like a sea otter
Your face alone is bad enough that it can cause a slaughter, Lazy Fish
Your soul is a garbage patch in the middle of the Atlantic
The most deplorable assortment of trash fish imaginable, a triple tangle of ten nets.
Quick, cut the damned line!
There, I finished it! Are ya ****ing happy?!!!! (Flips table)
"We're All To Blame."
We may not all be to blame, but we all suffer the same.
Humans made a bad situation worse just as they did in Kong Skull Island. Hmm... I wonder if they will have learned a lesson by the time GvK comes out. I would bet they will do the same stupid things again and survive smh.
The original song is We Three Kings of Orient Are. Lyrics withstanding, it's a pretty cool Xmas song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDqTL49OwDA
I don't know what song you're referring to lol. Almost finished the new version of it, though. Should be up by 11:20 at the latest. Then I can go work on something... else.
TheLazyFish How about finishing this idea- "We three heads of Ghidorah are" lol!
I am not sure how or why G 2014 is counted but whatever.
Based on the OP standards, a single movie could be epic.
Peter Jackson's King Kong checks those boxes (except for maybe super natural elements) for starters.
Just about every Godzilla movie I have seen has all those elements.
dk
No, I never actually posted it. Gmkgoji, Flyleaf-Rapt0r, Titan of Water, dantefrancis, and I have been working on something called Godzilla Extinction and we've been working on it on a Google Doc. We usually crack jokes at one another when we don't really have time to write, but have time to talk. A couple months ago, I wrote this on there, and after a day or less I deleted it. So yeah... it's kinda lost to time. I'm going to try and rewrite a new version of it, though. Should be up soon.
... I'm not entirely sure whether this is spam or not.
TheLazyFish Mr Fish song. Start digging in your post history. If you posted it, it will be there. Happy digging lol! We have to see it!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceLjG7szG8s
Cya after the break man! Have a good one!
THIS IS GLORIOUS!!!!! Oh my God, this is hilarious! Oh god, I don't know which I like best! I mean, I friggin love Shin... but this is kinda true lol.
Gmkgoji
Oh yeah, I completely forgot that you were doing that King Ghidorah is coming to town thing! I also forgot about "Mr. Fish." I didn't save the lyrics, and since my memory is poor and I did that about 2 months ago, it's probably lost to time. I mean, in theory I could scour two months worth of the document's history and find it... but if you read my name, you'll know why I can't do that.
dk
What goods am I supposed to be coughing up? XD
Ironically in reality I have sympathy for Shin Godzilla and feel sorta sorry for him. He just seems to live in such a miserable existence.
I liked the Mr. Shin and King Ghidorah coming to Town they were funny
Love to see a Monsterverse rendition of Bagan, Gigan, Titanosaurus, Zilla, Desghidorah, Monster X, Megalon, Gamera, Gyaos, Biollante, and Varan
Your songs have inspired me. Please bear with my Godzilla themed version of Oh Holy Night. I admit that it sucks but here it is:
Unholy night, the stars are no longer shining
‘Tis the night that our fears come to light
Lay the world to rest from its environmental tortures
Avarice and ignorance has awakened The King
Fall to your knees and hear the shrieking screams
Oh night un-devine, The King is reborn
Oh night undermined! Kiss your ass goodbye!
Gmkgoji Good stuff! This could be a cool Xmas song/Zilla theme thread!
HAHA! That is one of the most creative things I have seen around here in a long time!!! Upvoted!
Oh ho. You should see the "You're a mean one, mr. Fish" done by Thelazyfish. I'm sure he'll comment that.
But now, for my kaiju-themed christmas song!
You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, i'm tellin ya why, King ghidorah's coming to TOWN!
He's making a list, a...hit list? He gonna fight Godzilla and whoop his ass, King Ghidorah's coming, TO TOWN!
HE SEES YOU WHEN YOU'RE SLEEPING, HE KNOWS WHEN YOU'RE AWAKE, HE DOESN'T CARE IF YOU'VE BEEN BAD OR GOOD, HE GRAVITY BEAMS YOU ALL THE SAME!
You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, i'm tellin ya why, King ghidorah's coming... TOOOOOOOOO TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN!
This sounds cool, but it would need to be done right for it to be okay in my book.
Otherwise, it just sounds lazy.
Okay, good bye everyone! I'll be on winter break, but I might be able to go on here. If you want to talk to me, my email is gojira2112@gmail.com. If I don't get back to you or it doesn't work, tell it to Gmkgoji or MinecraftDinoKaiju as i am really good friends with them. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
