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Which King Ghidorah?

"Sometimes the only way to heal our wounds is to make peace with the demons who created them". I think this sentence pretty much sums it up.

Titan of water got it spot on in my opinion.

Titan of Water,
I've heard this argument before and the problem is that while nuclear power and radioactivity can be a "neutral" tool Godzilla has always been about the warnings of that tool.

Whether or not radioactivity is good or bad is irrelevant, because this franchise was birthed on one side of the issue. Honda himself even hoped the original film would put an end to all nuclear proliferation. Tanaka wanted to maintain the anti-nuclear theme throughout the Heisei series, which is why he attacks a nuclear reactor ever so often. Godzilla films have not always been about nuclear proliferation, granted, but it began that way and has been a reoccurring theme throughout the 65 years of the franchise.

Garbage like magical radiation triggering regrowth, a Japanese character setting off an atomic bomb (which by the way, doesn't even have that much radiation, it's mostly just an explosive, making the entire point of detonating it moot) and the use of Burning Godzilla as a video game-y finishing move negates much of what the franchise has been about. It's my biggest issue with the film and I can't believe we live in a world where there's a pro-nuclear Godzilla flick.

Well said, friend of Titan.

Commentary on this thread by a friend from Wikizilla:

So I saw that there's this thread going on over on SciFied's Godzilla News page, and seeing as how I don't have an account but you do, I just wanted to share my thoughts on it.

I almost feel like Serizawa's sacrifice is a sort of reconciliation between Man and Monster. Both sides have done terrible things to each other. We dropped the bomb that either mutated or awakened Godzilla, and left him the last–and first–of his kind. He's slaughtered thousands, if not millions, in return.

But there comes a time when people need to move on from the sins of the past. When we must put aside our woes and rivalries to strive for a better future. To quote Serizawa, "Sometimes the only way to heal our wounds is to make peace with the demons who created them."

Serizawa is a man who's family bore witness to the Hiroshima bombings. And now, all these years later, he takes that weapon of destruction and turns it into a force for good. He turns death into a new chance for life, so that the whole world can wake up and live again.

Nuclear power on it's own is a neutral tool. How it's used depends on who that power is given to. If you give a knife to a surgeon or a murderer, they will each use it a different way. Nuclear power is capable of great harm, yes, but it can also be used for great good. Nuclear power is one of the cleanest sources of energy we have on hand right now, at least in terms of greenhouse gases and carbon emissions.

I've noticed that Godzilla changes as the real-world changes around him. When he first debuted in 1954, he was, as everyone knows, an allegory for the horrors of nuclear warfare. But then, as time went on, he shifted from an all-out monster to a much more benevolent guardian of Earth, as seen in the late 60's and early 70's. Coincidentally, and even as far back as the 50's, nuclear power was harnessed not as a force for destruction, but as a new source of energy. I doubt Godzilla's shift to a hero had anything to do with it, but it is still something to note. And then he was rebooted in 1984. Tensions between various Cold War powers were very much tangible, and nuclear war was yet again a big concern, and Godzilla was shifted accordingly. Shin Godzilla was made in response to Japan's facing of several natural disasters in recent years, such as the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami.

In other words, Godzilla can represent both ends of the issue. I think the MonsterVerse incarnation is a good example of this. He could very easily be a threat to humanity if we do something he doesn't like, but at the same time, he's also our biggest saving grace against worse threats like the MUTOs and Ghidorah.

And that's my take on the issue.

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I argue it's MORE important than the infinity gauntlet. It's basically as important as the Avengers! I mean, it killed the main villain and spawned one of the most powerful beings ever known.

That is really interesting. I mean, if Michael Dougherty really was being loyal to the franchise, then he should've made that a big point in the film.

Then again, he wasn't loyal to what the Oxygen Destroyer represented as a whole and decided to instead have it make a cameo and never be mentioned again (Even though it is literally equally as important as the Infinity Gauntlet. This is for any Marvel fans who read this in the future. You're welcome.), so who knows, really?

I want Breaking Benjamin merch and I have none ;w;

Or, what about Flyleaf? Beautiful Bride sounds pretty cool, it kinda sounds like a battle...

this is what you get for me being raised listening to this stuff.

Yeah it does seem pretty pro nuclear to me. The fact that the radiation literally restores ecosystems is a big clue, as well as Godzilla being revived by a nuclear bomb. I mean, if Mike or the writers have a pro-nuclear stance, they’re allowed to have that worldview, but they shouldn’t have put it in the movie. I think they could’ve been more respectful to the original without compromising their own world views.

So getting back on topic, Kong is not going to win against Ghidorah. Ghidorah's arsenal is too powerful, he can fly, he can regenerate, and even when Kong gets bigger in 2020, he is still smaller than Ghidorah. Kong will just die to Ghidorah, no exceptions. Sorry, Kong fans.

Valid point, but I don't think so. I think the main point of the helping plant thing was more focused on the good of working with nature than radiation. If it really is a metaphor for Pro-Nuclear... the ending is kind of genius. Godzilla brutally kills Ghidorah and destroys all of Boston, with one person saying "Glad he's on our side," with another saying "for now..." Then all the 17 woken up Kaiju stand around him and bow down, despite being able to kill him. If each Kaiju is a country, then Godzilla is probably America. Ghidorah, with his 3 heads, would represent the axis in WW2 in my opinion. The middle head would probably be Japan, since it was the one affected by nuclear warfare and the middle head got brutalized in the film. The other Kaiju, despite probably being able to kill Godzilla, stand down in fear and respect, so Godzilla, or America, is now the main superpower. So... I guess that makes Kong Russia during the Cold War? SOVIET KONG!!!!

I mean, if it really is a metaphor for nuclear power, then it would be a kinda genius representation of WW2 at the end. But I kinda doubt it, I think it's just meant to be an environmentally driven film rather than nuclear warfare. But its still possible. Thanks for the thought provoking question, I never would have thought of that!

That's an interesting thought.

Very strange....................

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Ganimes V.8

Dude, how am I supposed to know you're being sarcastic?

R/WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSh

IT MEANS YOU DIDN'T GET THE JOKE!

Oh. Okay,then.

Whoosh is the sound when the joke flies above your head.

Ganimes V.8

what does "r/whoosh" mean?

I have this hanging on my wall:

r/whooosh

This was on one of the Iwi women's forehead in Kong:Skull Island:

You're, right.

Imagine Godzilla fighting Ghidorah to this song:

CARL DOUGLAS - Kung Fu Fighting OFFICIAL SONG ...

https://www.youtube.com › watch

MADE IN CHINA

He is dead.

I know right? She got from it china, I think.

He has to be WAY bigger than Ghidorah for the size to make much of a difference. Really, Ghidorah pwns Kong because of his arsenal, and Kong having no abilities or experience against creatures like Ghidorah.

Dude thats sweeettttt I have the 2014 Godzilla poster in my room next to a ton of other Godzilla posters :D

Really? Nice.

That's only 4 months away. My mom bought me the poster for it last christmas and it's hanging in my room between the posters for the 2014 Godzilla and Kong:Skull Island.

Yeah definitely Kong has grown but I wont make any calls till Godzilla v Kong trailer comes around

Godzilla is 393 ft tall and last we saw in Kong:Skull Island, Kong was 100 ft tall and that's 47 years between 1973 and 2020 so he has to grow

But we don't know for sure. That's why I won't make a call till the trailer rolls around.

Ganimes Kong has GROWN a lot since Kong was last seen. He could be as tall or a little shorter than Godzilla for all we know.

Ganimes V.8

 actually, Ghidorah's 521 ft tall

King Ghidorah is op, practically.

Kong COULD win via strangulation and luck, but Ghidorah WOULD win. His regeneration, flight, ranged attack, etc. Kong is unequipped to handle something like Ghidorah. 

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