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What type of stories do you all like?

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Action oriented?

Human focused?

Origins?

Just curious 

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Good ones.

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@Gman

What defines a good movies is opinion and preference, so technically that doesn’t answer the question. 

As for myself, I tend to enjoy action but prefer movies that keep me thinking about them long after the credits are done. I enjoy movies that I can break down shots and find themes and just are entertaining or thought provoking.

I tend to like movies like Gandhi.

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SarcasticGoji,
Good movies are defined by how well they execute the story and themes that create the narrative. Bad movies fail at this.

How well that execution is done is up for debate, though usually based on set standards defined by rules of photography, storytelling convention and acting theory.

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Examples of well-executed stories: The MCU as a whole, Kong: Skull Island, The Dark Knight, Cars, Star Wars, the Sonic movie, etc.

Examples of bad stories: Godzilla: King of the Monsters (even though the movie was good otherwise), Justice League (The Whedon Cut), Frozen, the Star Wars prequels, Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 3, etc. 

Gman and Goji, here are examples.

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@Gman

But who decides what makes a story good or bad. Who decides whether it is executed well or if characters develop enough it still depends on preference.

What I really want to know is how you judge movies. What do you think is well written or executed.

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Movie's that click with me

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Also this has almost nothing with the discussion but what are those shoes Goji has on?

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Ok, how I judge movies.  I judge by (quality of) story, cast, VFX, action scenes, how they handle key plot points, etc.

KotM had 3 of those.

And I know that you asked Gman this, but I have an answer myself.

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any answer is a good answer

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well alot of stories I watch, read, or play some calls crap but I certainly enjoy them. 

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Yeah, the story was kinda crap in KotM, but the cast gave it their all.  The VFX and fights were well executed.

I do admit I liked it less the 2nd time around, but it's still good.

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2nd time watching it I mean.

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SarcasticGoji,
I sort of already answered this. I'm not judging if a story is good or bad, but if it's well executed. At their core, there's no such thing as a good or bad story idea, only if they're told well. And again, a well executed story is judged by set standards defined by rules of photography, storytelling convention and acting theory. There are many books, classes and theories written on those subjects that define how those are critiqued.

As a former film critic, the whole, "it's just your opinion" is not something I submit to. Maybe, "your informed opinion", but even then that's subject for debate.

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So you judge movies based on guidelines created by different storytellers

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SarcasticGoji,
That's one criteria, yes. Another is using that criteria to critique what type of story they're telling and how well they tell it. Obviously Ghandi is going to be a much different movie than Invasion of Astro-Monster. Saying one is better than the other based on their genre and type of film is preference. But judging them on how well they accomplish their goals while considering their influences and cultural inspirations is a more objective approach.

Film critiquing is more complex than even most modern day critics understand today.

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OOOOOOOOOOOOO

Roast.

But I totally thought Gman was going to say what was wrong with the good things about KotM...lol.

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Wow I put in my comment too late.  Was replying to Goji.

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I've critiqued King of the Monsters enough and am honestly fairly exhausted of talking about a movie I find both a frustrating experience and ultimately boring.

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BORING??? BORING????

You can say whatever you want but that's an overstatement but King Of The Monsters isn't boring.  But it can be frustrating.

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