how to include King Caesar into the monsterverse

Well this was fun and informative!

The picture above is cool too.

Looks awesome. Can't wait for the forum about Gorosaurus.

No worries, he is next on my list. I have some ideas already.

 The reason why Black Panther was successful at the box office because of 1) Marvel, everyone knows Marvel, they can literally make a movie about Squirrel Girl and it would make lots of money, 2) His introduction in Civil War, everyone knows that he was awesome in that movie and 3) Nobody knows who's King Ceasar is aside from us. Just wanted to say that. Anyway back to the topic.

 I really really like this one, I think is by far your best! But I kinda disagree with King Ceasar having telepathy, I just can't imagine him having telepathy.

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Do you mean like when they gave Lucario the Pokemon telepathy in his own movie when he didn't have it to begin with in the series?

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Similar, I can get behind legendaries having telepathy but a non-legendary? C'mon(Lucario still cool tho).

I think Mothra is the one monster in this Monsterverse I can see having telepathy. That and maybe King Ghidorah.

King Ceasar should be able to heal other monsters. I remember back in 1974(at least in the English over-dub version) that the Simian aliens where worried that King Ceasar might have the ability to bring other monsters back to life. Since it was hinted that Mechagodzilla could have killed Godzilla, maybe the Simians where worried that King Ceasar would have the abilities to heal Godzilla or bring him back from the dead.

But he cant heal himself, that would be the takeaway. That's what I think he should have instead of the ability of telepathy.

yeah, "black panther" wasn't the best example. marvel can make a movie about anything and it will be successful. but this is how I see it: phase 1 and 2 of the monsterverse need to have the things it 100% needs (like Godzilla 3, kong 2 or a solo movie for Rodan/Mothra) and the phases after that can be more experimental (like a King Caesar solo movie or a remake of Gorgo/Gamera/TBO2F/etc.) Marvel has done this too with movies like guardians of the galaxy and Antman being made after movies like iron man, Thor, Captain America, Avengers, etc. I hope that around phase 3 (if it ever happens) the monsterverse will have around the same amount of recognition as the MCU.

the telepathy was more of a way to make King Caesar connected to the legend mentioned in the forum. also, it was a way to make King Caesar be more connected to humans in this story.

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Probably the best opinion and summary so far on this forum. Also, no spoilers for the next forum, but in your opinion, is Gorosaurus at least plausible enough to be in the Monsterverse?

Oh he definitely is plausible in the monsterverse. He fits right in and there aren’t that many other kong enemies besides him. Also the rights for Gorosaurus already lie at Toho. They could just make a new enemie for kong 2, but I think Gorosaurus would be a cool Kaiju by himself and would be a cool throwback. I don’t even think the rights for Gorosaurus would be so expensive, especially if he is in just one movie.

No worries, I won’t spoil anything here for the next forum. I only will tell what monster is next (being Gorosaurus). I could make and upload the forum for Gorosaurus within a week, but I think I will keep a 2 week gab with each forum. This is so I can hear and share more of your opinions over a longer space of time.

@KaijuWorld There was something I forgot to mention about the quote I gave you. Here's the line: "Unlike its smaller brethren, this creature dragged its tail across the ground in order to remain balanced due to its utterly gigantic size." What I forgot to mention (although not sure if you know this already, let me know) was that Gorosaurus is actually, according to the Godzilla wiki, a relative/descendant of the Allosaurus (Btw why isn't there fan art in which Gorosaurus has the color scheme of the Walking With Dinosaurs Allosaurus? If someone can make it, let me and KaijuWorld know and it might be included in that forum.). That is just to clarify what it meant by  "smaller brethren". You're welcome.

I will mention you in the forum, just not this forum. I will mention you in the Gorosaurus forum. Or was that not what you meant?

@KaijuWorld Not really. I was just clarifying something on the quote I found. Also, what do you think of my suggestion for the fan art? It is cool if you picture it. Here is what I mean:

Walking with Dinosaurs Allosaurus:

Gorosaurus:

Can you imagine the color scheme/ design? Just imagine it.

I like the connection to the allosaurus you made there. I personally don't do fan art myself. the one for Gigan on the last forum was to visualize the muto as Gigan. the thing is, gorosaurus's design doesn't need much of an update. his design already really looks like a real dinosaur. I would imagine it looking something along the lines of this artwork made by the same designer of the thumbnail photo for king caesar.

btw, let's save some of this controversy for the actual gorosaurus forum. this is a forum about king ceasar after all.

Ok. Also ( Sorry if I'm asking for too much too fast. ) , can you please do a forum on Godzilla Junior (the one from the Heisei era, not Minilla)? Please?

that is an interesting choice and a challenge that I would like to take. maybe they could bring back the plot of burning Godzilla, although I would rather want to see something new. the king of the monsters might not be the only one of his kind. junior could be a cool inclusion if Godzilla ever dies.

I am not saying Godzilla will die in KOTM. I mean who kills one of there flagship characters in a cinematic universe in his second movie *cough* Superman *cough*.

I have a question actually about all of Godzilla's sons. if Mechagodzilla 1, 2 and 3 are trademarked as the same character, why isn't that the same for minilla, baby/little Godzilla and Godzilla junior? also, if Godzilla junior grows up into an adult Godzilla, do the rights of the character change to regular Godzilla or does it stay as Godzilla junior?

I get that your idea for King Ceasar is grounded from the legend you provided to us. Im just saying that Mothra will most likely have that ability in this Universe. I bet that Mothra will have some kind of relationship with Millie Bobby Brown's character(don't ask me how or why, its just an educated guess at this point) and she will be the conduit for Mothra's messages.

So in giving King Ceasar a similar ability will seem pointless in its character towards humans and the like. Mothra will have telepathy covered in the Monsterverse. King Ceasar would need something else of divinity in the monster world. So giving King Ceasar an ability of healing or resurrection of other monsters would be pretty cool. In my opinion of course.

@KaijuWorld I'm not sure, but I think the copywritten character part is probably because they were looking for a design average for Godzilla's son for the time each character was made (Except Final Wars Minilla. That was because it marked Godzilla's 50th Anniversary.) Also, I hope that the rights stay as Godzilla Junior.

@KaijuWorld, now Im not an expert on licensing for Toho monsters or anything, but I can tell you what I learned about what Legendary can and cant do with TOHO trademark characters in terms of Legendary's Monsterverse.

 "junior could be a cool inclusion if Godzilla ever dies."

Godzilla can not die in the Monsterverse, he can be defeated but not killed(I think Toho learned there lesson from 98). So Godzilla Jr or any other son of Godzilla used in this Monsterverse can not take over in that way.

"if Godzilla junior grows up into an adult Godzilla, do the rights of the character change to regular Godzilla or does it stay as Godzilla junior"

In the Monsterverse, Toho wont let them have more than one Godzilla. I don't know if that means babies or younger versions of Godzilla(once again maybe learning there lesson from 98) .  So Godzilla Jr or any other form of Godzilla adolescence will stay an adolescence. There cannot be more than one Godzilla. So no 2 full grown Godzilla's at the same time.

"if Mechagodzilla 1, 2 and 3 are trademarked as the same character, why isn't that the same for minilla, baby/little Godzilla and Godzilla junior?"

That is a great question and I don't know why Toho keeps all Mechagodzillas under the same trademark all in the same package other than having the same name. I guess Minilla stays the same throught the showa series except for the dream sequences in All Monsters Attack, and also because his name is Minilla. But its the same character. Baby Godzilla, Little Godzilla, and Godzilla Jr all are different in the Heisei series. The character is technically the same baby from GVMG2 but he grows into different monsters all throughout the series. So the design of the character changes and is named differently in each film due to its size. So while Mechagodzilla is still called Mechagodzilla in 1974, 75, 92 and in 02 and 03 (aside of Kiryu), maybe that's why they keep it all in the same trademark. But like i said before, Im far from an expert on these things. Im sure others on this forum are more informed than I am on this matter. What Im saying here can be disproven or changed. Im just trying to bring what Im aware of on this subject to light.

I would love to see King Caesar in the monsterverse. Not expecting it though, but I do agree with the Black Panther comparison, if you can get enough word out about your franchise you can bring in some of the more obscure characters and make great stories around them.

@KaijuWorld I forgot to mention something: love the way Baragon looks in that picture along with Gorosaurus. Gorosaurus' round head could be improved on a little bit (refer back to images), but other than that, still looks good.

Small update for the next forum

the Gorosaurus forum is done. It will be uploaded upcoming Monday morning so look out for it. I could release it now, but I want to keep the 2 week gab between forums. In the forum, you might find a part of the story that references a certain controversial Godzilla kaiju.

Will I be mentioned in it, though?

Yes you will. You will be mentioned in the in- and outro of the forum including the quote from toho kingdom.

Thanks. Can't wait for it. See you then.

To that, I say "Black Panther"

so tru lol

I like the storyline! it's a great storyline, but it's sad that Godzilla V Kong is going to be the last Monsterverse movie. Hopefully Toho will like the movies so much that they'll renew Legendary's licence for a few more years so they can make more movies.

Well, it has never been confirmed that the monsterverse is going to end, but yeah hope it continues as well.

also, I feel my King Caesar's story would work better in the new Toho cinematic universe than in the Monsterverse. Fortunately, this topic could fit with the TCU as well :)

Hopefully Toho will like the movies so much that they'll renew Legendary's licence for a few more years so they can make more movies. dunkin donuts survey