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KaijuBuildz

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Mechagodzilla is one of if not the most iconic of Godzilla’s enemies. With the release of “Godzilla monster planet” which also included Mechagodzilla, I wanted to make a topic about why, when and how Mechagodzilla could fit into the Monsterverse. I know that the expansion of the Monsterverse is right now only matter of time and seeing if the upcoming movies are successful enough (for which I’m crossing my fingers for), but let’s just imagine more movies are on the way.

 

First, lets talk about why Mechagodzilla should be in the monsterverse. Mechagodzilla is part of the Toho top 5 (the rest of the list includes Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra and King Ghidorah). Mechagodzilla seems to be the number 2 of this list in recognisability (obviously after Godzilla) according to the people that I know at least. You don’t have to be a hardcore Godzilla fan to know this kaiju. The idea is pretty easy to understand and the idea of Godzilla fighting a robot version of himself will definitely make people get their attention. Especially seeing that Godzilla has really become popular over the last decade. Mechagodzilla could also fit in really nicely in the Monsterverse and might even be set up for Mechagodzilla to join. Later on this in the “how he could fit in” part.

The only problem that with adding Mechagodzilla in the Monsterverse is “pacific rim”. Pacific Rim is getting a sequel very soon and people who want to see Mechagodzilla join are afraid that pacific rim might overshadow the idea of giant robots fighting monsters. When Mechagodzilla joins, people might be like “oh, another giant robot fighting a monster”. I think this problem could be solved in 2 ways. 1 is to stop making pacific rim movies and let Mechagodzilla in 2023 or something join. That way people will be like “this we haven’t seen in like 5 or 6 years”. The 2nd way of doing this will be explained in the “how he could fit in” part.

 

Now let’s talk about when Mechagodzilla should be added. Legendary tried to sign a contract for all of the top 5 Toho monsters. Out of these monsters and Mechagodzilla was the only one that didn’t get and I think we finally know why. In “Godzilla monster planet” Mechagodzilla is present and will be more focused on in the sequel. This might be why legendary didn’t get Mechagodzilla, because Mechagodzilla already was planned for the Toho movies (at least until the “monster planet” trilogy is over). This is also the reason why Toho can’t make any live action Godzilla movies until after 2020’s “Godzilla vs Kong”.

Back to Pacific rim argument, I think that there have to be a few years of space between the next pacific rim movie and the introduction of Mechagodzilla. I think a gap of 5 or 6 years should be enough.

My conclusion is that Mechagodzilla should be added in Godzilla 3 in 2023 or later. Maybe this is a bit of a big gap between 2020’s “Godzilla vs kong” and this movie to keep the Monsterverse fresh. So what I was thinking is adding in 1 or 2 movies in between like a Mothra stand alone movie or a “kong 2”.

 

Now finally let’s talk about how Mechagodzilla fit in the monsterverse. I have a couple of ideas starting from most to least likely.

The first idea is by using the origin of Mechagodzilla 3/kiryu. For the people that don’t know the origin of Kiryu, I will give a short explanation. Mechagodzilla/Kiryu was made by the humans to fight Godzilla and defend Japan. This version really took the realistic problems of making a giant robot like fuel and broken parts during the fight. This version of Mechagodzilla also explained why Japan would make a robot that looks like a Godzilla instead of just making a death star or something to kill Godzilla. Its because this Godzilla was made around the skeleton of the original Godzilla. This origin makes the most sense in my opinion and it looks like legendary might have accidentally set this origin up because in the beginning of 2014’s Godzilla you see a giant skeleton. If this is a Godzilla skeleton is up for debate. if it is a Godzilla skeleton than it could go like this. monarch and military agree on taking the monster problem in their own hands. They take the skeleton with them and turn it into a robot to fight monsters that might attack the world. Of course, this is just a simple explanation for the idea and you can defiantly create your own reasons why they would make a giant robot and how an entire story could be based on this idea. Just use your imagination. This is, in my opinion, the way to go.

The other idea I had is the 2nd way Mechagodzilla could avoid the pacific rim problem and that’s by crossing over the 2 franchises and making Mechagodzilla a Jaeger. I don’t really know how this would work, but it would make sense of “the giant robot looking like Godzilla problem” and the “Pacific rim taking the giant robot movie spotlight problem”. Personally this is not the way I want to see this happen, but it’s a way none the less.

 

This is the end of the forum. I am really hoping for the Monsterverse to be successful and can’t wait what the future might bring to it. But hey, if dc can make about 5 movies with only 1 or 2 being good movies, I think the Monsterverse should too.

Any opinions are welcome and maybe you can make some of your own theories about how Mechagodzilla could fit in.

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But Shin doesn't fully explain everything. They just make the situation believable and above all relatable to Japanese audiences.

Shin just goes into the fact that Godzilla is the most evolved being on the planet to summarize his abilities. It is no where near like the way fans are trying to theorize how Legendary is operating. 

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aliens are being used a lot. but as I said in my original forum the monsterverse doesn't need aliens to make Mechagodzilla. I do see some flaws now I think about the idea of Mechagodzilla without aliens, but if legendary finds a way to do Mechagodzilla realistically without aliens I will be impressed.

but then again aliens have become such a trend recently with sci-fi movies in general.

and about the American movies being more theorized about, well that is the thing. the American movies are more popular than shin and people are expecting a lot from it including a new version of Mechagodzilla. people are really hoping to see more of this universe and what it can bring. mechagodzilla is up there in the "Toho top 5" for a reason.

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^I cant disagree with anything you said there.

I'm just trying to point out things that could work. Aliens and Mechagodzilla just make sense to me. Why would we build a giant robot to fight a monster when we can fit all of mechagodzilla's weapons on military vehicles or planes? Im trying to bring in some kind reasoning behind the need for a giant robot in the Monsterverse. If you have a giant robot, aliens cant be far from the story. I mean why not!?

Any situation with Mechagodzilla is going to be a stretch in this Monsterverse. Might as well add aliens to the mix to be able to expand the universe for more monsters to be added in possible sequels. 

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I might have a possible reason for the military not using the same weapons for Mechagodzilla on regular tanks and planes. I think it is because the only way to hurt these MUTO is by pure strength. You saw what tanks and planes did to Godzilla, Kong and the MUTO’s and that is nothing. The only way these Kaiju can be hurt/killed is by pure strength of something as big as them (aka mechs). You need to fight fire with fire.

Also, tanks and planes need pilots and when you have a lot of pilots getting killed by these Kaiju, the military wouldn’t have much left. The military needs something else to deal with these situations. something that doesn't need many pilots to control (and even control from a distance) and can take the battle to somewhere were the kaiju can't cause any deaths or damage.

btw, there just so happens to be a Godzilla like a skeleton (from the first scene of the 2014 movie) that can support all of that weight of tons of metal (maybe the skeleton possesses regenerative capabilities). I am just saying.

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@KaijuWorld Is this forum done, or are you still going to improve on it?

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I don’t think so. I think it is pretty good as it is right now. I will be answering any questions that are asked on this forum though. depends on what you mean with “improve”. Why are you asking?

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Again, it's because I have come across forums like this where it seemed like a long time since the last time anyone replied to them. Just saying that it feels unsettling that a good forum is just left to waste for a long time on this website.

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Movie about godzilla for example 3 can start on 2200 year and future humans make reconstruction of fight godzilla and new MechaG and maybe create portal to 2020 year ( like king ghidorah from 1991) and now we are on the middle on movie when scientist analise godzilla fighting agains king ghidorah , mothra and rodan and make concept weapons agains godzilla. And now godzilla go to destroy one of nuklear generators when army try stop godzilla new mechagodzilla land behind godzilla and start fight, after a fiew time fight godzilla and "Anty godzilla" godzilla back to the sea and maybe new kiryu with future pilot join to earth defence force 

Thats a idea

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I think that if a crossover with the Pacific Rim universe happens it would be way better... And have Godzilla reappear in the future before the events of Pacific Rim and have a Godzilla and MechaGodzilla team up against some kaijus

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I agree we need a good modern Kaiju game. the 2014/2015 Godzilla game was a let-down for me because It's only 1 player. Alex Merdich's Daikaiju Battle Royale is fun, but it gets boring after a while and playing 2 player is hard. I think I'll make a post about a modern Kaiju game.

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Over time I am starting to like the 2014/2015 game more, but we all know that there is way more potential with a kaiju game than the game gave us.

Also, I'm interested to see your post on a game.

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A monarch super weapon 

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this aged horribly

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Oh look. My first and only post in this thread turned out to be true. Imagine that.

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