Monster-verse after Godzilla vs. Kong

They are going to beat the living crap out of each other then team up, and to be honest I hope they do. You can call me fanboy trash, an idiot, a gimmick lover, whatever, but we have seen them fight one on one before. I want something new and different. This got solidified in my head even more so while watching the Kong Skull Island commentary with Jordan Vogt-Roberts. He was constantly making references to the fact that he wanted something different than dinosaurs and he wanted the mother longlegs to be different by not shooting a web but by having those sticky tendrils. I wholeheartedly agree with this. We have seen that movie before. I also don't want G2 to be just another GTTHM, again, we have seen that movie before and it is awesome. We don't need another one. Don't get me wrong; I want to see them brawl and I mean full bore, but I would love to see the most iconic kaiju in history team up and beat a bigger threat, maybe the Siberian monster if it is in fact a monster.

I really really really hope they don't team up, of all the vs movies in history the only one the 2 combatants teamed up in is BVS. That's the vs movie we want to emulate and take from?

Just because BvS messed it up doesn't mean that GvK will. That Martha thing was just super cringe. I think they both will be confronted by a threat that one on one will kill them and then they realize that they have the best chance of survival if the join forces. I really wish people would stop using the BvS comparison, they are two ENTIRELY different things; one movie features humans, the other giant monsters.

But the dynamic still sits. You title a movie X VS Y people want them to fight it out. They want to see the winner, you don't do that then completely cop out and pull out a 3rd party that can fight both. If you do you don't call the movie "vs" you call it something else.

There's no point to them teaming up, especially if this is the finale of the monsterverse, you put the two biggest names up and watch them go at it, it's literally worked for almost every other vs movie up till this point and apparently works since they keep making more.

@morgoth9899, we may have seen Godzilla and Kong fight in '62, but the general audiences likely don't even know that movie exist. They do know that Batman vs Superman exists, and that they teamed up to fight a monster stronger than them. It would seem pretty unoriginal to use that storyline. I'd rather see a storyline from 1962 that hasn't been used in forever rather than something everyone saw only one year ago. But to each their own.

Save the team up for the sequel to GvK when the Xilliens bring in MechaG and King Ghidorah to destroy the world. Then they can become allies for the entire movie and we can all live happily ever after

I'm telling you here and now it is going to happen. There is a big point in them teaming up and that is they, Legendary, do not want to piss people off. I doubt Toho will have Godzilla be the loser and I doubt Universal will want to see Kong lose. Toho is VERY stingy (as you know) with what entities outside of themselves do with Godzilla so trust me he isn't going to lose on an American screen. There are subtle hints that a team up will happen. Producer Alex Garcia said in an interview while promoting K:SI that quote: "They will clash and who knows where they go from there." Also, in the beginning Gunpei (east) and Marlow (west) try to kill one another but then Kong shows up and they eventually become very close. Bro, here is one major reason why: The GA. They are the ones bringing in the dough. Legendary and these companies don't give a flying f@%k about what the fans want outside of Godzilla looking like Godzilla want. Look at transformers. There is a long video of Thomas Tull talking about concept testing Godzilla vs Kong and they loved it, if they didn't it would not be in development even though us G fans would love to see another it doesn't matter what we think/want. I will end with this, I am all about expanding the brand, i'm about progression and constantly changing; I hate living in the past and I hate doing things that are well enough by themselves over again. A team up is something different and that's why I want to see it.

@number1Godzillafan, General audiences next to Godzilla vs Megalon all know about King Kong vs Godzilla. Those are the top 2 movies baby boomers know of and when G'14 came out a lot of them were saying "I'd like to see Godzilla and Kong fight again."

@gman thanks for clearing up that G vs KG scene, I must have not paid enough attention when I watched it. Still, it was pretty savage of Godzilla to do that.

But a team up isn't different it just got used in the last VS movie that was made. As for it being a tie or not, have you watched any vs movies ever? They're always ambiguous with the winner, even the original KKvsG is to some degree. You can have them not team up and still not have one die. As for the general audience I've never seen any general audience see a vs movie and overwhelmingly say hope they just team up. They didn't say it for Frankenstein meets the wolfman, the original KKvsG, Freddy vs Jason, or either of the AVP movies, and all of those movies did fine profit wise, they never teamed up and people came to an agreement with how they were dealt with. 

And I can assure you the general audience even if they know about it probably have not seen the original KKvsG movie. This is a very niche fanbase, and that movie came out long enough ago that the target audience for moviegoers are most certainly not the ones that watched that movie, or likely saw it at any point. 

I still don't want to see them team up. I saw that just a year ago with BvS and it sucked. But we'll see what happens 2020. Best of luck to ya

Thank you, Durp. You hit the nail on the head.

Not to go against anything anyone here has said but, "When I was pursuing who I thought should win between Kong and Godzilla, it was natural and fitting for the film to end in a draw." -Tomoyuki Tanaka. This was translated from the "Toho special effects resource book". 

I agree with Durp. It defeats the purpose of the "vs" title of having them team up, but it's not like we haven't seen monster team ups in the past either. Assuming the general audience take, the typical non-Godzilla fan will see the title "Godzilla vs Kong" and instantly think oh, a fight between the biggest Kaiju icons of pop culture. That is the main reason why people will pay money to see the 2 duke it out. All in all, only time will tell what will happen. 

@number1godzillafan and goo luck to you you little shit! :) seriously go fuck your mother and sister and stay out of the convo.

@Im Durp your name suits you well. I'm guessing you're young and don't get out much or don't know people outside of your parents, but I assure you in my travels I have heard those things. In many Facebook comments and forum posts a lot of older people in particular cite KKvG as a film they have seen as a kind it made a lot of money. LOL

I don't think the very existence of Batman v. Superman negates the possibility of any "versus" movie ever ending in a team-up ever again. Batman v. Superman doesn't own that idea, and it's not like no other studio could ever pursue that idea and do a better job.

Godzilla and Kong are both being set up as the protagonist monsters. The audience is meant to sympathize and root for them both. Each one will have gone through at least one film beforehand where they are the "hero" and defeat some other, more malevolent monster. Having them fight to the death or having one simply triumph over the other, who is suddenly presented as an antagonist, would be unsatisfying from a narrative standpoint at least in my opinion. Godzilla and Kong are both very territorial. It's easy to justify why they would fight. Just get them in the same location and they will probably fight. Heck, maybe Kong could resent Godzilla for his disregard for human and other wildlife casualties in his battles, since Kong is more conscious of other animals.

Coming up with a legitimate reason for them to fight together against a common foe would be an interesting challenge for the filmmakers to tackle, and one I'd like to see. Maybe someone who hates Godzilla or Kong intentionally pits them against each other, hoping they will kill each other, leaving the human protagonists to attempt to stop them. If Godzilla, Mothra or Rodan end up fighting together in Godzilla: King of the Monsters, it will have already set precedent for Godzilla to fight alongside another monster. Kong is also intelligent enough to recognize a friend or foe and know where to focus his rage.

I contest the notion that Batman v. Superman's infamous "Martha" scene means no versus movie should ever end in a team-up ever again. If the filmmakers are talented enough, they should have no problem overcoming the perception left behind by that film and creating a satisfying film that delivers on its premise and concludes the monsters' character arcs. Plus, judging from reports around the time just before Godzilla vs. Kong was released, Legendary and Thomas Tull were confident that Godzilla and Kong could fight and "possibly become allies." Obviously things have changed since then, and nothing is set in stone, but it shows that Legendary may have had the thought of a team-up in their head from the beginning. Their press release announcing the shared universe even referred to Godzilla and Kong as "heroes," making the idea of one being the villain and the other the hero seem less likely to me.

Personally I'd prefer for them to team up, but I also want their battle to be the focus of the film. Godzilla and Kong are both the "heroes" of the MonsterVerse, and it would be anticlimactic in my opinion for their arcs to simply end with them fighting each other instead of some major threat. I'd like to think the existence of Batman v. Superman alone won't determine what direction Legendary takes with the film.

Morgoth has been given an official warning. If one more thing goes south in this thread it's locked. Try to carry on in a civil manner.

TKOTM

I'm not saying that because BvS did it badly it can never be done well, just that when people see VS in the title they expect that to be the main point of the movie. I would prefer if when the VS title is used the monsters don't then team up, it's a personal thing, but I don't think that just because both of the monsters were more in terms of "good" in their own films doesn't mean they have to team up, it just means the loser doesn't necessarily need to die.

@Huge-Ben

you are right. I just thought the idea of how our govt would try to react to the citizens poinbt of view, I wasn't trying to shove it down peoples throats. just thought it would be cool. not trying to offend here. I just loved how in The Return of Godzilla and Shin Godzilla you see how the Japanese govt tries to deal with this threat through a bureaucratic approach. you can sense this dark glooming cloud of a giant atomic monster and what its affect on the world through these points.

Ah, Gman, always there to restore the balance

morgoth, There's no way you'd actually say anything like that to me or durp in person without being dropped to the floor so just give it a rest on here. Also I made this thread so I will reply to whomever and whenever.

This thread was intended to be about ideas AFTER Godzilla vs Kong so that's what it should be about. If you feel you actually have an idea worth sharing that is related to that topic specifically then go right ahead and share it with us. I don't care if we talk GvK ideas too, but like Gman said, just be civil.

No aliens and MechaGodzilla, Legendary could do whatever they want with the MonsterVerse but plz no Aliens and MechaGodzilla, Those 2 could hurt the MonsterVerse especially MechaGodzilla, not because is unrealistic its because MechaG wouldn't make sense, why would anyone build a slow Godzilla like robot when they can build fast and agile Humanoid robot?