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Willnotbenamed

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Will Ghidorah in this 2019 film look more like

1.This fan art design

or

2.This other fan art design

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NateZilla10000
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Yeah this is a kaiju flick. All scientific accuracy instantly flies out the window with that.

There was no point in life's time on Earth where the environment was "more radioactive than the present", for instance. That was a big point of the G2014.

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The Legend of Brian
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I do want to respond to Gman, since while I do agree the wingwalker idea would be a poor decision and not something I'd personally prefer, I think if that's the only major change they make to Ghidorah, I'd be more willing to look over it as artistic liberty. 

Since the anniversary just passed, I think Godzilla 1998 would be a good example. Let's say hypothetically all that was different in '98 was the design. It had the atomic breath and wasn't killed by the military(or ran away). Would it still be Godzilla? I think technically yes. Godzilla is an irradiated amphibious creature that walks on two legs with massive dorsal plates and breathes an atomic heat ray, broadly speaking. It's a radical redesign, but if that were the only thing changed, I think most would consider it Godzilla. It was this radical design change on top of the other changes and just a generally poor movie that made it easily acceptable for the fans to say it's simply not Godzilla.

In the case of Ghidorah, if it's a golden three-headed dragon that fires gravity beams that resemble lightning bolts and has two massive wings and two legs it can stand on (if they do the wing walker design, I'd hope Ghidorah would at least be able to stand upright for some length of time), I think it'll look OK at least. I'm not saying I'd like it, or it'd even work, but I don't think an aesthetic change like that is worth saying it'll be a total failure. I can appreciate the filmmakers wanting to at least try something different, if Toho even allows them to of course. 

I just think it's a slight rush to conclusions to say that if Ghidorah is a wing walker, it's not Ghidorah. Hell we can't even be sure if the technology had been available back then, Ghidorah could've very well been a wing walker in some of the older films. 

The idea of an evolving Godzilla a decade ago would've been called sacrilege, but I think most of us here like how it turned out. It can't be as dumb as Kaiser Ghidorah at least. I'd argue that was an even more radical redesign compared to wing walkers since it added appendages. 

I do maintain a "it's not broken so don't fix it" mentality for the design, but to a certain extent, I think something new would be a good direction to go in so long as it's not REALLY different

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The Legend of Brian,
The thing is Toho has established that "King" Ghidorah is different from other incarnations. We have two other "Ghidorahs" that are fundamentally different, though loosely related in design--But it's very clear they're not King Ghidorah. If it's a golden three-headed dragon that fires gravity beams that resemble lightning bolts and has two massive wings and two legs it can stand on... It could be Keizer Ghidorah... (He did stand on his hind legs.)

Toho has gotten away with multiple designs of King Ghidorah without changing the silhouette of the character. It works. If Legendary is too lazy to avoid the countless fanart out there depicting a Wing-walkdorah then it fails.

Though the point might be moot... These images were taken at the 2018 Licensing Expo. I'm not prepared to roll out an article that says, "KING GHIDORAH LEAKED" or "IS THIS THE 2019 KING GHIDORAH", but take a look at the screen in the image followed by what the screen says in the second image.

I'm going to do a little more investigating, but... God I hope so...

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Looking in to it more, it seems unlikely this represents a final King Ghidorah design. Still... It's encouraging that a very traditional representation of the real King Ghidorah is shoehorned between footage of the 2014 movie. Here's a youtube video of the images. It should start at 15:57, but if it doesn't now you know where to slide to:

https://youtu.be/cjiMJyFPaA4?t=15m57s

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I hate to be the barer of bad news, but that pic looks suspiciously like the same cave painting from the end of the Skull Island movie.

But hey, that just means they're marketing an upright Ghidorah more, so maybe it means they're trying to keep the classic silhouette.

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^Not only that, but it's a Toho presentation, not Legendary. It won't be Toho that reveals the final design. But like you said, the fact they're advertising the real King Ghidorah gives me hope.

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Plot Twist: King Ghidorah is actually only spreading his wings, JK

Anyway, why not have Ghidorah vary from knuckle-walking to standing on two legs? It can work if you did it right.

For People who are too lazy(Wait, are those new BC Godzilla figures?).

Godzilla Generations was a beautiful game! I loved the fact that there's a laser cannon inside of Dr. Serizawa's eyepatch.

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I can absolutely agree with the silhouette argument. If the solhouette fails to look like Ghidorah, then the production team failed at a fundamental level. I'd also agree with the Jurassic Bootleg, if they alternated between the two, like an attack and defense stance, I'd be somewhat OK with it. 

On the note of multiple creatures being Ghidorah, such as Kaiser, god forbid we get a wing walker, but would it be correct to view the Monsterverse Ghidorah as a variant? Similar how we do refer to Kaiser Ghidorah as different to King Ghidorah. 

From the one image we have seen so far, I hope all this discussion is moot and it's just a simple design update like we got for Godzilla. 

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"Monsterverse Ghidorah as a variant? Similar how we do refer to Kaiser Ghidorah as different to King Ghidorah. "

That is entirely up to the people making the movie. The only thing it needs to be a member of the Ghidorah family is basically 3 heads and a dragonic form. But to be KING Ghidorah, which is what they are certainly marketing and such, there's more stipulations to match along with the base 3 head one. Golden body, two wings, two legs, gravity/lightning beams, etc.

Again, if the film makers just want to make a new Ghidorah, then all they'd essentially have to do is make a unique looking three headed dragon. But if they want to do King Ghidorah, a simple three headed dragon isn't going to be enough to earn the title.

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Though I'm talking about as far as us fans would be concerned? If it had everything that makes "Ghidorah" Ghidorah but was a wing walker, would we as a community view it as a variant like Kaiser? 

Sony referred to their monster as Godzilla, but we as a community agreed that it wasn't Godzilla, even before Toho made the Zilla name. 

So if Ghidorah does turn out to be a wing walker, Legendary would refer to it as KING Ghidorah, but would we as a community look at it as just a Ghidorah varient, since it's not so far removed from the Toho creation as Zilla was. 

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All this talk of what the Ghidorah design's going to look like, and yet, am I the only one thinking of what Rodan's and Mothra's designs might look like?

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I think the reason their is so much discussion is because Ghidorah stands the largest chance of being messed up. Mothra is a giant moth and Rodan is a giant pteranodon roughly speaking. There's a lot of room to work with.

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For Rodan, yes. Just find a picture of a real Pteranodon, increase its size, add the parts that distinguish Rodan, and there you go. Lol.

For Mothra, though, I feel like she might get her wings changed a bit, like she did between the Showa and Heisei eras, and from her look in GMK to her look in the Kiryu saga and then back to her pre-Kiryu look in Final Wars. Plus her color pattern changes too, so one wrong color error, and it might get disgraced.

 

Do you see what I mean for both of them?

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I do, but I think as long as they don't chose ugly/mismatching colors, it won't be so much of a problem. I do think that mural that was released last comic con is pretty indicative of what Mothra will look like, so as long as it looks like that, I think it'll all work.

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