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Godzilla 2014 vs. Godzilla Resurgence official debate thread

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Chris

AdminSpaceGodzillaApril 16, 2016

This thread will act as a debate platform for fans to discuss the differences and competition between Legendary's Godzilla and Toho's Shin-Gojira from Godzilla Resurgence. 

We can separate the debate into 3 main categories:

Design and Concept

Which Godzilla has the better design? Which influential concepts did the King of the Monsters the most justice?

Abilities in a Fight

If the two Godzillas ever met and engaged in combat. Which one is more powerful? How would that battle play out?

Film Style and Quality

Keeping in mind both are completely different styles of film, this category is likely to spark some diverse opinions. Those debating this category should be familiar with both film's backgrounds and messages.

Regarding Godzilla Resurgence, many debate points will need to wait until new footage and/or the film is released. As right now, we don't know much about Shin-Goji's abilities and film style. For now however, the design is open for comparison and debate.

Let them fight...

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You sure love the word "lie". An over exaggeration, lack of knowledge on particular subject maybe, not a lie. Stay on subject, don't devolve to insulting your opponent--or you won't have one. 

I don't even know what to refute in what you just said, please rephrase. Gman what you just said is not true, Godzilla was busy battling--it can be inferred that he was going to fry the eggs immediately after dealing with the beasts. But Ford took care of that for them.

Good grief.

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"Stay on subject, don't devolve to insulting your opponent--or you won't have one."

? Is that supposed to scare or intimidate me? Yeah, I pointed out you lied on a subject. It's not devolving to anything. It's simply pointing out that truth hurts. You don't have the power to ban people anyway Gg. That's staff and admins. That's actually more insulting on your part. You are a moderator after all. Aren't you supposed to sit and lead by example? The only thing it will cost me is PM'S with the staff and admins and maybe our friendship. 

There's nothing wrong using the word "lie." sorry if you're getting offended here but, lies eventually catch up and the truth does hurt. Gonna take this to the staff and admins now. You sent out a threat. Not very mature or moderator like. 

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? I didn't send any threat, I said that I will leave the discussion. I did not lie also, I did not know lol. Okay, Moderators keep articles on subjects--this is going way too far off. All I said was to stay on subject, and not say I'm lying, which I'm not lol. Even if I could ban you I would not.

Good grief.

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Guys I've already said it once. There's no need to close this thread yet, stop making accusations of one another, stop twisting what each other is meaning. Calling each other liars and assuming one is making threats is still not attacking the opinion. Ease. The hell. Up.

"Gman what you just said is not true,"

Unless I'm watching a different movie everything I said is true. Godzilla failed to stop the MUTO from reproducing, just as I said. The eggs had been laid.

"it can be inferred that he was going to fry the eggs immediately after dealing with the beasts. But Ford took care of that for them."

You mean the beasts that were busy pummeling him to a pulp and would have likely killed him had Ford not been the one to distract momma MUTO by cooking some eggs? Cool.

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That doesn't change the fact that, once he had time, he was going to kill those eggs. Gosh, feels like the same discussions we've had two years ago xD.

Good grief.

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 Wow. Still hard to believe 2 years have gone by this quickly. 

Umm...without human intervention, Godzilla wasn't going to get back up from the beat down he was receiving from the mutos. 

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I personally think he would, but maybe not. Nonetheless, if he had the chance, he would have killed those eggs.

Good grief.

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Guys DEAL WITH IT

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I think I'll chime in as the guy who WON'T be coming in with any previous baggage, eh?

If we go by VS. debate standards, Shin Godzilla isn't allowed to use anything beyond what he's demonstrated, same for Legendary Godzilla.

With that in mind, let's continue, shall we? The individual cells in ShinGoji's body undergo nuclear fission, which is how the main body has enough power to move and evolve. However, the process creates immense levels of internal heat, which is why he needed to make trips to the water, release heated blood, and shut down when he overclocked that process.

Legendary Godzilla is only known to consume radiation, not produce it from some kind of internal reactor system. However, his atomic breath is powered by that radiation, so it stands to reason that using it would drain him. According to the novelization and calculations done by some people on the internet, LegendaryGoji's breath is actually a gigantic natural plasma cutter, a real-life tool used for cutting through metals. The power source is radioactive, but the application is not.

The heat produced from nuclear fission processes is likely not as high as that of a plasma cutter, and, given it's non-nuclear status, Legendary Godzilla's atomic breath could make short work of Shin Godzilla if he could get in range. As well, Shin Godzilla's beams are radioactive, meaning that, though powerful, Legendary Godzilla could theoretically feed off of them.

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Yeah but so would Shin! He feeds on radioactivity too. Also don't forget that if Shin's rays hit G14 it would...cut him...

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@Gman123, 

Funny thing is, Shin Godzilla feeds on radiation as well. Also, if it is NOT seen in film, it is NOT Canon. 

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....... That's what i said....

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Also Ben didn't Serisawa said that Godzilla 14 feeds on radiation? It isn't seen but he says that.

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Actually not true. Films make up most of the canon, but authorized novelizations, like the G14 one that Gareth Edwards said was legit--do count as canon.

It's like the latest Dragon Ball movies and their manga counterparts, both are canon.

Good grief.

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Care to share and show me when and where Gareth Edwards said it was Canon? 

 

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Gareth Edwards annoucnes Godzilla Awakening.

Pave the way for the film? xD, doesn't get more official than that.

Good grief.

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Pave the way is for marketing purposes. I mean, the dvd and blu-ray say "watch the movie first then experience the awakening."

Again, the comic and novelization are not Canon. Both are written by people Not associated with legendary. 

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But they are considered canon. Whether it be for marketing purposes or not, it is still accepted by the creator and Legendary as part of the Godzilla experience--meaning it is apart of the story. However, I can see how it won't be accepted as it makes legendary Godzilla way too overpowered.

Good grief.

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They are not Canon. What happens in the film is the story itself. The thing is, Gareth Edwards and Max Borenstein never have said the words "it is Canon." 

They have to say that in order to be true and official. 

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Happy 100th comment opinion battle thread....

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