DestroyahX and Talisman- I get both your points and i respect all your opinions, I may have started getting a little harsh. But it was because you guys were saying things like, "Oh he didnt fight the millitary enough" and, "Godzilla is not epic." When if you would understand what i was trying to say was the new Godzilla isnt perfect! But its a amazing start to the era of godzilla. You should stop being negative about the box office because dont you want to see a better sequel?? Dont you? Gareth edwards whole direction with this film was to, On quote For the millionth time lol, "Not make a smash and bash film!" Just understand this film take it in it wasnt perfect but it really was perfect wasnt it? in its own way it was perfect. And destroyahx This godzilla was EPIC i dont get your points about that. Also for every person who says there wasnt any destruction caused by Godzilla Go watch the bridge scene and look at what he did, "Smash and bash instincts attacking." So guys let me reiterate my point, Godzilla 2014 was a incredible film but it was incredible as a INTRO not the actual thing. Im sure when that sequel comes, "Praying for 2016" Its gonna be incredible and you guys should be putting good energy into that.

GORILLAGODZILLA77897,

I wouldn't want a sequel with Gareth Edward's directing though. I would like to see a sequel, but someone else directing the movie. I think his vision of Godzilla is just not with the times. Its not that it has to be Pacific Rim, but, things these days have to be "awesome" 

Like I mentioned, they teased the Mutos in the trailers. All the focus was on Godzilla in terms of monster focus in the trailers. The movie it was Godzilla who was teased and the main monsters were the Mutos. They already showed Godzilla in the trailers but then tease him in the movie? I didn't like that. It was deceptive.

A newer up to date Vision of Godzilla by a director who has the "balls" and is not afraid of showing Godzilla. A director who actually believes in Godzilla as a character that will not become boring. That doesn't mean he has to show Godzilla all the time, but people are there to see Godzilla do what he does.

Just to add, a sequel with Edwards will be very difficult and I don't think it will succeed.

To many people are now aware of his style and the marketing that was behind his vision of Godzilla. People tend to have long memories. There won't be that initial box office push the next time and the movie probably would flop all together.

What is Edward's plan? More monsters I heard.

Okay, well that means less time for Godzilla yet again. The movie surely won't be called "Godzilla"

Can anyone see that the first movie in a trilogy (potential) has to really focus on the main character?

The next movies will be introducing other monsters, other things, less time for Godzilla.

Since Edwards introduced Godzilla as being rather weak, can Edwards really introduce monsters stronger than the Mutos?

He can't. He put himself into the corner with the first film. To be consistent, Godzilla would need help YET AGAIN, he would be limited in his atomic breath, and would need to sleep and fall down right after.

He can't ignore that. He did that in the very first movie.

Personally with him directing I can't see the sequels will be successful.

Well, then, Talisman. In your disgust with Edwards, who do YOU think has a greater love and understanding of Godzilla to use him right in a sequel?

@GorillaGodzilla - If you think its epic, well that's nice :) Unfortunately saying the film is totally epic will not matter to the studios. Legendary studios looks at the sales numbers to determine success because ultimately, people make big-budget movies for money. - That's the reality and that's what keeps them going, and that's what keeps the sequel coming too. Let's face it, movie-making is a very competitive and risky business. Having a small pool of fans say its epic is not going to keep Legendary studios afloat nor get it nearer to its ambitions of becoming a full-fledged independent production company - its the mass audiences that keep them afloat. Let's look at China, the first wave of audiences who went online to rate Godzilla after watching the show, only less than 12% of the 28,000 users who rated the show thought the movie was excellent. Likewise, people like you who think Godzilla is epic will probably form less than 15% of the world's audiences who felt that way about the show. But you know what? Over 80% of audiences who watched X-Men Days of Future Past actually felt the show was excellent and look at the box-office numbers. Nearly $700 million dollars. They must have been recommending X-Men a lot more than Godzilla to their friends and family isn't it? And you telling me to stop reporting negativity in Godzilla's box-office numbers is like being in a state of denial. I can choose not to publish the sales numbers here, but thats not gonna change anything. I can assure you Legendary studios is keeping a much closer tab than us on the sales, and if China turns out the same way like the rest of the world, I wouldn't be surprised they end up changing the director for the sequel and that's something you cannot change. 

@Talisman - Thanks for commenting and seeing the bigger picture here. I believe not only do sales numbers tell us how well audiences perceive Godzilla as a whole, it also serves as the best indication to Legendary Studios whether they are in the right or wrong direction. If they know that formula isn't working, they gotta either change it, or improve much better. I'm very sure Legendary wasn't expecting Godzilla to make around $550-600 million when they quickly announced a sequel for the movie at the start. They did so because Godzilla opened to such huge numbers at the start that projections got wild, so I guess the drop that followed must be pretty shocking too for them.

And lastly, I think you folks need not respond to GorillaGodzilla any further, because he is in love with the movie and we aren't gonna go on squibbling for that. (Saves your energy typing out your responses to him as well) I am more interested in paying attention to the 2nd to 3rd week of China's sales numbers because they will determine the course of the sequel. :)

@GMan123 - Instead of playing the question game on @Talisman to justify Gareth Edwards, I can tell you the answer right away. It's Anyone. Yes, Anyone out there. There are 7 Billion people on this planet to choose from.  Let's face it, Legendary Studios did not pick Gareth only because he was the best person for the job. They took a risk and a leap of faith with Gareth because of what he did with 'Monsters' and they felt they had a vision, and it was also budgeting, budgeting and nothing but budgeting in mind that Legendary had when letting him take on the project. Besides he's not as expensive as other epic directors to engage. So in the end its still down to the economies of scale here. Gareth Edwards is not a professor in Godzilla-nomics nor is he the best expert in Toho Kingdom by the way. What makes you think he is the right and only person capable of delivering? Right now the sales fall after its explosive debut is undeniable, the box-office numbers are clear enough to conclude that. If I'm running a movie studio and numbers aren't matching what I projected to make, do you think I would still stick to the same director?

And since when was I justifying Edwards? Where did I say that? I honestly want to know who else people see as plausible directors for the future. I'm not an expert with whose good at what, so I usually look at what other people say first.

@GMan123 , @TalisMan 

- And one more thing I would like to add here. When it comes to making movies, studios take a huge risk when it comes to producing a sequel, because there is a high probability most of the time that sequels fail to match what the original film made or even flop altogether. UNLESS you happen to be in the same league as The Transformers, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter or Star Wars or even Avatar, any thought of a sequel carries that huge burden of a risk. How then do studios determine if a sequel should be justified? - They look at audience perception, reception and box-office numbers. 

When we look at Godzilla's key market China, of the 32,000 people to date that went online to rate the movie, an alarming less than 11% of audiences actually thought the movie was excellent, while a majority of nearly half of them thought the movie was just average and being average is not going to cut it out here. Audiences can certainly forgive, but they will surely not forget. When you slap the sequel with the next Director as the same old Gareth Edwards, they would already know what to expect. - Average. So what are the chances that mainstream audiences will go back to watch the sequel? Say 10 - 15%? What are the chances that they might give it a miss? Probably half. A lot of faith from mainstream audiences has already been lost with the original, you can't expect them to believe in the vision of the sequel again. To make matters worse, they felt cheated by the movie's marketing. I think that's the greatest sin made by Legendary for this movie and they need to correct that. 

And let's say Godzilla ends up making $550 - $600 million here. Would Legendary Studios feel safe to invest much more than the $160 million which they did on Gareth Edwards in the first round, knowing there is a big chance audiences who have watched the original would give the sequel a miss? Audiences already know what to expect from Gareth who produced a Godzilla monster below their expectations, so how else awesome can the monsters get here with the same treatment applied? Audiences do not forget and if I'm watching the account books over at Legendary, I wouldn't want to carry that risk of making a sequel that ends up making me less than $600 million again while spending much more than $160 million this time adding more monsters and special effects.

Talisman- Godzilla is weak...... He is weak....How many damn times have said he isnt weak in this film... Im done with you talisman go watch your old godzilla movie i dont think legendary studios gives a damn about your opinions and probably neither do care about my opinions either. Destroyahx- your saying that people shouldnt listen to me because im giving the facts, When your obsessed with the box office. I dont mean to start a fight or anything but this is a, "Hater Post" You guys didnt care for the movie so you want to rag on it, And i understand your whole, "Everyone has there own opinion" and i respect that but you completly went against yourself when you said for people not to respond to me. If you didnt care for the movie and wanted, "More smashing less teasing" Then dont watch the movie or care about it. And you completly disregarded when i said dont be negative about it if you want to see a sequel. And there is gonna be a sequel who cares if Gareth directs it, I thought he did a very good job with a rather Cheesy storyline. But dont all of you just want to see a Godzilla movie after 10 years? Its been 10 years since a Godzilla movie, And your ragging on this one and comparing it to 98 WHICH WAS SCUM, "Sorry if i offend anyone by that" Godzilla 2014 was actually a Godzilla film. And talisman he doesnt fall in the dirt he is regenerating like he does in most Godzilla films. Go revamp your Godzilla history and come back here. also its dropping in amercia because you cant get tickets anymore, Its out of theatres! Saying that, "We arent gonna go squibbling for that." This post would pretty much be dead right now if i wasnt still talking to you guys. I have told you all enough facts i dont care about any of your opinions neither does Legendary or warner bros. When the sequel comes out and its really good look at these posts i have made and think about why.

And destroyah Xmen is more popular then Godzilla thats why there is more money in the office. Just like with every superhero movie. Also your not counting inflation Xmen only made 200 million in the us, Not that much more then Godzilla which made 191 million in the us. And xmen hasnt made 700 million yet. Your not even good at the box office.

Btw im done posting on this section so let your hater minds flow freely.

@Gman123 , @Talisman

- Earlier I was talking to you about how audience perception and reception is key to shaping the development or possibility of sequels for movies. As I earlier touched on the reception of the audiences in China (Godzilla's key market) whom almost half of respondants on one of China's most popular movie sites, rated and felt the movie was average, let us look at X-men for example. I'm sure you must be curious how Chinese audiences are perceiving X-Men Days of Future Past. 

Of the 108,226 movie-goers who rated X-Men to date, 38.2% felt the movie was excellent, the majority of 45.6% thought the movie was good, while 14.7% thought it was average, followed by a very minute 1.1% who thought it was not good, and a almost unnoticeable 0.3% rated it as mediocre. 

Therefore, audience perception is important because it determines how well people would go on to recommend the movie to others around them.

As a general whole, I believe Edwards should be given a chance to helm the sequal to Godzilla. Certainly he's seen the feedback generated by his first steps into full-scale film production and is interested in doing better for his audiences. Not only that, but the movie industry needs new blood to keep it fresh and interesting - to provide new perspectives! Perhaps Gareth was, hmm, overwhelemed by the sheer vastness of what he'd taken on and subsequently had a few false-starts within his film. We all flounder a little when we're first learning to swim. Even so, I dearly hope that Edwards will take to heart the buzz (both bad and good) Godzilla has created and produce a sequal that will bring us G-Fans together in its praise - not polarize us and touch-off arguments. That being said, next time, he's going to be treading water in the deep end of the pool! To that end, I say we should give Edwards a second chance to show us what he's got - sink or swim. Perhaps this is a flower that takes just a bit longer than usual to bloom - at which point it completely captivates everyone looking upon it! I'm keeping my fingers crossed! :)

I just want to chime in quickly. We’re talking about sequels and it’s looking like there will be at least one more, which is great. I’m hoping they can improve on the shortcomings of this film. I also happen to be amongst the group of G-Fans here who did not love the movie. There were some good things, and I liked it but ultimately found it disappointing and a missed opportunity.

Just one little reality check though. With the talk of sequels, I harken back to before Godzilla was released. In interviews with Thomas Tull and Edwards, when asked about a sequel(s), both held off on speculating, not wanting to jinx anything and also to gauge how this one was received. Edwards himself was on record as stating that it would be great to do more and he would love to be a part of them, but if not, this movie was a standalone movie, and wraps up as such.

So, he approached this as if it could be the one and only, one and done. Here’s my movie, here’s what could be my one shot at this. That being the case I myself would be pretty pissed and depressed having this as a “one and done” American Godzilla movie. If I’m the filmmaker looking at it like that, wouldn’t I want it to be a ballsy, awesome one time movie?

Opinions are opinions, but the numbers don’t lie. People all over were excited to see this movie. It opened huge everywhere, but then petered out, because it didn’t have that sustainability and good word of mouth. Hell, I’m a huge Godzilla fan but I couldn’t give it a resounding recommendation to others!

Think about it. We’re all hoping they can improve things the next go-round, but imagine if this was it. Truly a missed opportunity.

THEGMAN123,

Russo Brothers?

Honestly, I would go with Del Toro and get him a really good script. He is got "balls"

he is not conservative. Sure, Pacific Rim was a bit overdone, but, he loves Godzilla, and is a huge fan, I think we would finally see justice done to Godzilla.

Edwards is to wrapped into his own vision to listen to honest and good criticism. He is really set on what he wants.

I agree with Destroyah. Why do we have to assume it has to be Edwards? He made a dud. Sure the film did really well, but, only initially. 

With Del Toro, you would have somone who is not afraid to show Godzilla.

hey everyone, you want to point fingers at someone you point them to yoshimatso banno as he was the assistant director to this film remember?

I thought the movie was great it is in my top 10 favorites, still not the best no godzilla film to date can compare to the original 1954 film. :)

Yoshimatso Banno is the co-producer of Godzilla 2014 and not a director in this movie. He only helped obtain permission for the use of Godzilla from Toho Co. Ltd which was developed into the Godzilla 2014 movie today with the financial backing of Legendary Studios. He is currently planning for his sequel to Godzilla Vs the Smog Monster. 

For what it's worth, I loved Pacific Rim. I liked the characters; I got them. And then, of course, in between the human stuff, it had giant robots fighting giant monsters. You actually got to see them fight. Several times! I did not feel short-changed at the end of it. It's a fun movie, plain and simple. Blown away at how much money it didn't make.

right? So then looks like we will probably get godzilla vs the smog monster 2, like he had planned.

Thanks for correcting me on that destroyah-x still though i knew he was involved with the new film, i thought he was a assistant director so my apoligies.

@Bigbadben - Yes, it's the sequel the world demands! Godzilla Vs. the Smog Monster 2!

hmmm.... wonder how it will turn out?

@BigBadBen - Haha no worries, I only know briefly that Yoshimato initially started off with plans to make a first-ever 3D Godzilla movie, and used that to obtain permission from Toho to use Godzilla and Hedorah. Of course it then sparked off a lot of rumours and speculation that Godzilla 2014 would feature Hedorah as Godzilla's enemy but that wasn't the case. Turns out, he had meant to use them for his own sequel. And to realize his wish of making a 3D movie, he went about getting investors, and Legendary studios made a commitment to produce the new Godzilla film and co-funded by Warner Bros, where Gareth Edwards was chosen to direct it. Which is why we have an American-made Godzilla film today.

Talisman but Pacific rim was all fighting no story. Thats what made it not do well. What the Godzilla sequels need is 5/10 5/10 of fighting and story, A good amount of both.

@destroyah-x,

true when i heard about it as well he was going to actually rename hedorah to deathla in that plan that was scraped. I just hope that when legendary works on the sequal that they actually make it twice as good as the first, yeah sure there were some flaws with the new film but i still liked it for what it was...far better than tristars in my opinion. :)

@Something Real

- That is a very sensible and reasonable answer you just provided. But that said, the movie industry is a serious business, and how many chances does one get should one fail to bring in the numbers, especially for a movie that is no longer as small-budgeted as Monsters but we are talking over a 100 million dollars at risk here, considering that Legendary and Warner Brothers are co-funding the project. Therefore we cannot expect a director to treat it like his graduation project or competition masterpiece because mass-audience perception is at stake here. Which brings me to provide my further answer to you in my response below :)

@Talisman,  @KoldWarkid62 & @BigBadBen

Talking about Pacific Rim - It's a good show for Kaiju fans and it carries a lot of punch and awesomeness, but it does have its share of issues. The movie came with an odd/obscure title, which gives one no indication of what the story is about unless you actually watched the trailers, and not everyone from the mainstream audience looks out for such things and not everyone is a fan of Guillermo Del Toro too who is well-known for very unusual productions. To be honest, before I watched any trailer of Pacific Rim, my first thought upon hearing the movie title was that it must have been a disaster film that had something to do with volcanoes. There was nothing familiar that people could associate the movie with, and it ended up threading into unknown territory, unlike Godzilla which has been a household name in the world of monsters. Couple this with a lack of aggressive marketing, Pacific Rim turned out to be quite a mixed bag. Despite praises from fans, it's sequel today has yet to be greenlit despite Guillermo working on it, because again, box-office numbers are the determining factor. Over $400 million of sales may not quite be sufficient to warrant a sequel, but worthy of further investment should Guillermo be able to come up with a much fantastic sequel script.

As for Godzilla, I suspect Legendary Studios may pretty much stick with Gareth Edwards for the sequel because they probably expected Godzilla to make say, a modest $500 million? If that's the case, then Gareth has done a good job for the studio but fails to crush the box office. With the hype meter so high on Godzilla, projections really went wild here, but when the movie slumps as quickly as it debuted with explosive results, this calls for reflection by both the studios and the director. The difference exploring the sequels between Pacific Rim and Godzilla lies in their very foundations. My guess is, audiences are more prepared to forgive a movie that started off from obscurity, but are much more discerning and demanding to a movie that comes with a long history and reputation. Comparisons between their previous experiences and the new are bound to take place. As such, garnering an 'average' rating from audiencs around the world is not going to cut it out here. The only question left is, if the studio is giving Gareth the opportunity again to further Godzilla, will the mainsteam audiences be as willing to?  

DestroyahX- You sound like a pacifist, And your trying to make a point out of everything. We are talking about a Godzilla movie not LINCOLN, The movie is gonna break 500 million i am certain, Legendary is gonna give Gareth one last shot for the sequel, Also dude the whole franchise isnt depended on the damn BOX OFFICE. Also stop comparing Godzilla to comic book characters like Xmen, Those characters are alot more populaur and so are there movies, Thats why its made 700 mill, Also there movies are advertised alot more unlike Godzilla. This is the first godzilla movie in 10 years, Cut it some freaking Slack it did a great job with what it had.

I respect your opinion that there wasnt enough Godzilla in the film, But dude didnt that kind of make it more fun to watch? Because it doesnt get boring every scene that godzilla is in there not boring at all, every scene he is in is done right! unlike most Godzilla films. Compare this to G vs the smaug monster, Though that ones a classic the characters are dull and the storyline is kind of stupid. You guys have to understand that this film is like most Godzilla films. In Godzilla 1954 the ORIGINAL WHICH HAD NO OTHER MONSTERS, Godzilla was only there for 13 minutes. In this one he is there for 14 minutes, "I counted."

@Destroyah-X

Totally agree with you on the name and marketing of Pacific Rim. As cool as I think the movie is, the name really says nada about what the movie is about. I think they marketed it to a small degree and just let it sink or swim on its own. As much as I would love to see a sequel, they wrapped the first one up fine for me.

Back to Godzilla, have any of you guys seen/have "Godzilla - The Art of Destruction"? It's a phenomenal book. A lot of cool stuff, but it gets my blood boiling because there are so many sketches and concepts of Godzilla fighting the MUTOs, as well as other scenes that would have made for a better movie. You look at these pictures and imagine what should have been. There are even sketches of the military engaging him!

I keep hoping when they release the Blu-Ray, they'll have a G-Fan edition that has all those scenes in it, in addition to the throwdown at the airport! Yeah, right.

Destroyah X-: this movie also had X-Men to deal with the weekend after it came out, while X-Men only had an Angelina Jolie movie with witches to worry about, hardly a valid comparison. 

Also, the 98 movie's best competition was the first X-Files movie when it was already 4 weeks in and that movie made Neighbors OW-type numbers adjusted. It had virtually no competition to worry about all throughout its run, and still failed to hold. It had the 2nd lowest domestic/opening weekend total of all movies that year despite being marketed to death for over a year and no competition to deal with. If it were released today, to the 2014 movie's competition (which it's had every week since it's been out), it would be lucky to break $180 mil domestically.

It's no more a liability than Batman Begins failing to sell more tickets than Batman & Robin (and it did), which BTW, this movie sold more tickets than Batman Begins. Also, it just opened up in China and hasn't opened in Japan yet and still outgrossed BB, so don't even give me this "$440 mil is nothing to brag about" BS.

Kmanx89- You the man your the only one who is smart on this forum section. Woo yeay for smart people.