My Rant to Godzilla 2014 ranters

GMAN- Such as what? Just curious.

Most haters dont understand what they were going for with this movie. It wasnt meant to be just a smash and bash with very little and story and cheesy characters! I think the idea of waiting and putting Godzilla at a later time is just really perfect. Think about it in the old movies you knew he was coming in like 5 minutes. But in this one we got Serizawa saying awesome stuff and a force of nature. and we see the destruction the mutos are causing then!... the tsunami comes and Godzilla rises and then its just so awesome. And every seen with him in it is perfect and they made it perfect for a sequel.

This to me is by far the best and most realistic Godzilla movie. Here is something to switch you to my side. If your a grown up your gonna like G 14. If your a baby your gonna LOVE GODZILLA VS THE SMOG MONSTER, "Not saying that one wasnt great."

Liking a movie has nothing to do with maturity or age. This movie wasn't so complex you need to be an adult to understand it, actually storywise I think this is on the more simple side, and the characters weren't so complex a child wouldn't understand their motivations, or reasoning. 

@ThePike

Actresses set up as strong female characters with absolutely nothing to do during the third act but watch the mayhem. (Elle Brody and Yukari Yamane)

Notably interesting characters/actors being introduced and then dropped before the second act. (Joe Brody and Emiko Yamane) Although this was a handled better in Godzilla '14 since Joe actually contributed to the plot momentum.

Scientists being used as expositional pieces to explain the monsters and then dropped with nothing to do by the third act. (Dr. Serizawa and Dr. Ijuin) It's slightly better in Godzilla vs. Destroyah, but only because Ijuin came up with a left field, deus ex machina to minimize Godzilla's meltdown.

There are other comparisons, but they escape me at the moment. I truly adore both movies, I just think they're both equally middle-of-the-road films than representations of the best or worst of the series.

Gman-All fair comparisons. But what cannot be compared is the Godzilla action, which is the major problem with G2014. Gvs.D starts with Godzilla rampaging through China, and by the time you get to the end you've had plenty of monster action with two major fights. Godzilla meltdown threatens to destroy the earth. Junior is used as bait and is killed, which is a tragic moment. Godzilla shows despair at the loss. This can be mirrored somewhat by the loss of the MUTOS brood, but they are supposed to be the villians, so that is a desired result. Godzilla's meltdown is again a heavy moment that I'm sure has made more than a few G fans well up with tears. And then the revival and mutation of junior, the birth of one Godzilla through the death of another. And let's not forget that Destroyah...a truly terrifying, demonic looking monster. A sharp contrast to the somewhat mundane MUTOS.

What do we get from G14? Godzilla shows up at the end. Briefly fights, and leaves. That's it. Done. A nice decapitation I suppose, but aside from that, we never really lock in on the action. It comes quickly and ends just the same.

So while you make good points, I feel you're pointing in the wrong direction. I could have lived with the mediocre story of G14 if the action was better. It wasn't. In Gvs.D, it is much better.

GorillaGodzilla77897-I'm an adult who saw this and says it's mediocre. Most of the other adults I know who have seen this movie think it's mediocre. Most of the children I know who have seen this movie think that it's mediocre. It's not because we didn't "get" what the filmakers were trying to do. It's because what the filmakers made was VERY MEDIOCRE. I'm beginning to think that there are some people out there who are just easily pleased and don't really expect all that much from these movies. I do. The human action was not all that interesting or clever and the Godzila action was barely there. That's a failure on two fronts. This movie has great effects and they didn't blow Godzilla's design. That's it. That's what they got right, and in 2014 and the budget they had, that should not be considered a no brainer.

"But in this one we got Serizawa saying awesome stuff and a force of nature..."

I mean, this is an asset? Serizawa is saying awesome stuff!?

I usually like to keep my comments civil, but really, you can't be serious.....

Gman-Please excuse my sloppy writing in my response to you. It's been quite the morning...

Durp004@ Wha...what? I never said godzilla 2014 wasn't my favorite movie. Godzilla 2014 is actually one of the greatest godzilla expeirences of my child hood.

Now please some of you seem misunderstood. I'm not specificly slamming the ranters.......kinda. I'm mainly talking about WHAT there ranting about. Just for the sake of a (mr.I don't remember your name)'s question. How does godzilla vs destroya and G-2014 share the same problems. hmmmm this is actually a tough one o_____o.  Well both godzilla's are bulky right...heh. OK FINE YOU WIN!. But I like G-2014 better cause it takes a more realistic aproach. Godzilla vs destroyah is just TOO supernatural. Thats all I got for that. 

Yes I understand we all have our own concerns and opionins(spelled it wrong). But please understand i'm not trying to make clones of me our anything, but i'm just pointing out whats a litle tiny bit dumb to count as a flaw for this movie.  (I suck at spelling) I close out with this......the godzilla movie that cares about both humans and monsters...focuses on the theme of the original gojira.....and at least tries to make good human characters is the best gojira movie. Just because a gojira movie doesn't have "More" gojira and cheesy super natural slap fights doesn't mean its not a good one. Story is much stronger then just sitting in a boxing match watching godzilla and the bad guy duke it out...in my opinion that is.

ThePike@ I think (in my opinion) you just expect to much of this movie which with all do respect was not a wise choice. Cause when you expect something and don't get it...you'll turn from a woopie cushion to a land mine if ou know what I mean 030

(sorry for spaming the commet section for the third time) also if that guy thinks that serizara said some awesome stuff (which he did) then thats great! At least he's doing more supporting then downing.  Just ...thought I say that.

Gojira 2014-Look at what you just said! I expect too much? Damn right I do! What am I suppose to expect, not that much? Perhaps a little?  I said it above and perhaps I was more right than even I thought. Some of you had low expectations, and thus, weren't very dissapointed when you didn't get all that much. That's just sad.

@ThePike,

I don't subscribe to the problems with action in the new Godzilla. I think the balance of action was actually one of the stronger aspects to the film and comparing such an attribute with Godzilla vs. Destroyah is sizing up apples to oranges. While it may have had more Godzilla and more monster action that hardly makes it a superior film. Both of Monster Zero's monster battles lasted under two minutes, but is a better, albiet very different, film than both the new movie and Toho's 1995 Heisie era farewell.

I think giving Godzilla vs. Destroyah a pass just because it has plenty of action is is feigning ignorance to the more glaring issues with the film. Likewise, the lack of action in the new Godzilla is not one of the more egregious flaws with it. There's far more that needed to be attended to both movies before emphasis on action.

Gman-It's not just that it has more action. The action is better. The motivations are more interesting, and the emotion is more heartfelt and real. Godzilla isn't just a force of nature that happens to pop on by to restore balance. He's a thinking, hurting being fighting to protect his adopted child. The world is on the brink of a global cataclysm. It supports the action better, plain and simple. And I guess if you don't subscribe to the action as being a problem with the new film, then you are one of a few. Just because the movie had a great opening weekend, doesn't mean people like the film. And what's the biggest complaint? Not enough action. So it doesn't really matter what a small cadre of superfans thinks. Most people expected more Godzilla, and more destruction and what they got instead was a traveling soldier. Say what you want about GvsD., if it had the quality of effects that G14 had, this wouldn't even be a conversation no matter what the problems with the story are. Likewise, without the great effects, G14 is nothing more than your average Godzilla movie.

@thepike

hey man sorry i didn't PM you but my 2nd teaser drawings are up if you would like to take a look at them. ;)

Hey BIGBADBEN-Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna take a look. I sketched up a Godzilla recently in Photoshop. I was playing with a new Wacom tablet I just got. I will put it up soon.

awesome can't wait to see it, your artwork is far superior than mine will ever meets the eye so to speak, i just love your godzilla vs muto artwork it is truly amazing. :)

Hey Bigbadben-Thanks man, you're very kind. I left a comment on the page with your work, but to reiterate, great job!

@Gojira 2014

That's my point. You said you waited weeks to form an opinion in your opening post, however I was pointing out you were saying that G14 would be your favorite Godzilla movie prior to its release. Thus the weeks to form your opinion doesn't really stand when you were saying it would be your favorite before even seeing it.

@The Pike,

I think the "superfan" complaint is the lack of action and Godzilla. The more generalized complaint from casual viewers were the lack strong characters first, particularly Cranston, and the Godzilla complaints second. Critics seem to be in the same boat.

Your comparison of special effects is fairly meaningless as well seeing as both Godzilla vs. Destroyah was made with a completely different style in mind and an Eastern appreciation for that style. While Godzilla 14's special effects are inherently Western. If Godzilla vs. Destroyah had western special effects, and that was the only change, it would still be a heavily flawed film. Perhaps more fun, but still with some major issues. (Dropped ideas, wasted characters, oblivious extras, shameless Alien apeing.)

Likewise, with or without the western style special effects, Godzilla '14 is a fairly middle-of-the-road Godzilla movie. Slightly above average, I'd say, but not an example of the series' finest.