
Godzilla'swrath
MemberMothra LarvaeMay-17-2014 10:31 PMLike the title says: SPIOLERS ALERT SPOILERS!!!!!!!
So, for those of you who have seen the movie already, we all know about the eye contact between Godzilla and Ford. Now, whenever I see that look on Godzilla's face I always think of him saying:" I'm sorry, I failed you....." but another thing that cathes me is that how HUMAN his face and eyes look. He looks so sad and defeated. It makes me think how much a really cares about the human race. But for that being another topic, here's my theory:
So, we all know Joe Brody, Ford's dad, blames the MUTO's (even though he doesn't know exactly what they are yet) for his wife's death. Now keep this in mind: Godzilla has not been awaken yet, but is still asleep somewhere in the ocean. After Joe finally sees for his very eyes what this creature truly is, he is imediattly killed off, by being thrown off a metal walk way from the muto's attack.
Now, my thinking is that Joe's spirit somehow awoke Godzilla, and maybe even took over his body, Because of my previous sayings of how Godzilla looked at Ford. But some other hints to this is that When Ford blew up the eggs and the female muto was going to eat him, Godzilla charged himself up like a boss, and saved Ford with his atomic breath. And also Godzilla never hurt any of the Navy ships, well at least not on purpose anyways. lol.
look, I know this sounds far fetched, but just think about it........Please leave your thoughts! but please keep them positive. thank you!
Wow, Mr? My brothers address me as "hey, idiot" and my wife with "Really?" LOL.
Thanks. I'll admit, I like to make people just a little uncomfortable--I was an overbearingly sensitive kid, and so now...but I'm a lover, not a fighter. LOL
I responded to your other post about what I thought about the movie BTW...
You know I'm...kind of a big deal. I'm the captain of a hydrofoil..we should cruise out to Godzilla Island sometime...LOL
Yes, his research on black holes actually emitting radiation was beyond incredible...I mean, how would one even conceive such a thing?
I assume you've read the Grand Theory? It's basically quantum physics for dummies (I'm the dummy, not you). Very intriguing book. I part with Stevo, Carl Sagan and others in that I still stubbornly believe in God, but very hard to argue with their work. Cosmic inflation is definitely the most "Wowwwwwwwww" thing I've ever come across.
Do you ascribe to 11 dimensional spacetime? I pretty much do...I'm weak on the math though (remember, I'm a lover!)...
As for wit...well, thank you Miss...for you, any time.
Reference your earlier post about coming forward--hey, I'm wrong a lot...I've found that admitting it to others tends to disarm them and let them relax. Given my general lack of social skills, that's big bonus!
Yes, and I don't know enough of the math to be able to pry into it and really look deep--seems limited, but also seems their number is firmly rooted in the calculations they've labored over the last 30 years. Dunno if unified theory will ever make it (not like it is now)
Yep, I'm with you on God. Funny Sagan said that. I found his strident agnosticism irritating at times. I understand well scientists skepticsm of God, however, when they get insistent on it, I think they're overcompensating...
However, the biggest challenge to God I've seen yet, is actually in Hawking's book. Bascially throws causality right out the window, which if you also follow complexity theory, advanced sensemaking techniques and the like seems appropriate..and we will spend at least 100 years even approaching how to think about our physical world that way.
The million dollar question: if they invent a quantum computer?...My intuition tells me the implications are so..expansive...it could change humanity overnight...I worry about that.
Ahh, I wish I had your faith...my experience is that every new technology is exploited for good and bad--look at what criminals do with the internet, and trust me, it's big deal. Our society is increasingly specialized and as a result, individuals seem less and less concerned with the broader implications of their actions: scientists and lawyers in particular. My concern is in the new levels of "truth" such a thing may reveal...what if, we could suddenly "see" complex, emerging order and predict it like we can with complicated systems now? We could simultaneously "solve" complexity...but then what? As with many things, we've come close to earning the cognitive right to open that door, I'm just not so sure we've gotten there with our souls... See where I'm going?
Godzilla's Wrath,
Yes, Godzilla has a seemingly benign side, but I think it is truly more condescension. I think his manner is more like, say, the character Galactus, than it is friendly. Yes, he clearly avoids those things...I think it is more reflective of a smart animal. A bear can pull the top of my car door down like tin foil...but if he can get to my food without having to destroy anything and exert himself, he will. I think Godzilla is less mindful of not hurting people than he is thinking, "Gotta swim over there to get to beach--whaaa? Those little ants are blocking the water? uhhhhhhhh...okay, going under them...folks, I got MUTO to kill, you're not helping--outta the way!"
We really, really are beneath him in this movie. Yes, there is some tiny bit of connection there--for a moment, and as living creatures on the same earth--but him getting up and immediately leaving, deep & out of sight snaps that reality right back--we are separate and below him...and best we remember it.
This theory makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever.
You guys are reaching. You are trying to force yourselves to love this movie. You been waiting for this damned thing for so long that you choose to ignore the fact that most of the things in Godzilla don't work.
Um, like what? Care to elaborate? If you say certain things in the movie didn't hit the mark, I could agree...not sure what you mean really though.
I for one, didn't force it liking it. I gave it 4 out of 5, but not higher because, well, I did think they could have done better with the Ford Brody character, they killed Cranston far too soon, and they lost one of their own main themes--family (I mean, how many posters here felt more connection with the MUTO family than the younger Brody family? right?). But it's about Godzilla...and yes, we didn't see probably quite enough of him, but that was deliberate...so...did it work? I think overall it did. It was a Godzilla movie after all...most of us here seem to like Godzilla, and most of us seemed to like it. The box office will speak for everyone else, especially on weekend #2...
I'll admit, after the Emrich disaster, probably a few of us wanting this one to work no matter what...but I don't think we're being outrageous here on that. The movie was a visual spectacle--that is undeniable.
I'd agree with you if you're saying we're reading too much into Godzilla's mentality and trying to make him seem more human than he is...I'd agree--he's basically somewhere between a dog and gorilla in intelligence...but I think that's part of the point...he's not as "smart" as us...yet still above us. I think the movie reinforces that, oh, about 5 or 6 times at least...power is power, and well, he's got the most. That simple.
If that theory is what it is then that would have been great for a Toho movie.
I thought it was more, two apex predators looking at one another. Both are the uncontested tops of their foodchain, but Godzilla is still the superior of all, its sort of.
"Stay out of my way, and i wont eat you, fellow Apex Species."